So you are able to reconcile a loving creator sending his creation to an eternity of suffering? In your mind you are able to make that logical? Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, Zoroastrians (one of the oldest known Monotheistic faiths), Sikhs, Pagans, Wicca, Native American spirituality, atheists and agnostics..... and so many others. All going to hell because they are on a different path? Sorry, that's not the God I know. Maybe, just maybe, Jesus Christ is YOUR way-shower. Are you open to the possibility that God - all knowing, all loving, all powerful - created more than one path? Let me challenge you to consider that God created us to "get there" as you put it. We are all on very personal and very different paths because we all have different lessons we need to learn. If you and I decided to meet for coffee at Tysons, we would likely take different routes. But we would both reach that coffee shop. |
| I got the Who is Jesus book from the "Who is" series... |
Are you saying every path leads to the coffee shop? |
| Thanks Minister. I love your approach. Can you recommend an adult book that places the New Testament in historical/political context? Bonus points if it also discusses how many Christian religious traditions were actually "pagan" ceremonies adapted by Romans and others to appease competing communities/civilizations? |
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Sorry we derailed the thread! To answer, I really love this one. I've taken two continuing ed classes using this text and read the book several times. It is not an easy read. It can be really difficult to keep up with all the writers. But if you are interested in the politics, culture, language, possible writers and their motivations, and history that influenced sacred scripture, it's a great book. Just be prepared to take notes and keep lists. http://www.spiritualityandpractice.com/book-reviews/view/2720/reading-the-bible-again-for-the-first-time |
| I read the minister's book review linked above. It uses the well-worn metaphor of fingers pointing to the moon. But God is not the moon. Marcus Borg is a Christian heretic. Read at your own risk. |
Thanks, I'll check it out. Anything a littler easier that you can recommend? |
I read the book too. I don't remember anything about fingers pointing at the moon because there was so much more than that in the book. It's a good read and not all that difficult, and I do recommend it. |
In your opinion. There are lots of different kinds of Christians and many admire him greatly. |
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I can't find the exact one I used with my children but it was like this one...
https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Illustrated-Childrens-Bible/dp/0736962131/ref=zg_bs_3106_6?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=BS0YXH7BEA6VKNMSJYWN |
+1. Geez. The fire and brimstone people are so tedious. |
Jesus didn't exist outside of the bible. (maybe an account from Josephus, for example, that can't be directly connected to biblical Jesus) What other "historical" figure has so little about him/her? myth - like Osiris |
Just like the new-thought "Christians" and the Horus/Mithras/Osiris folks. Someone is wrong. Are you sure you know who it is? |
In religions, you're dealing with people's beliefs, not a simple matter of who's right or wrong. Jews don't believe anything about Jesus. He's not a part of their religion. In contrast, Christians believe he's the son of god. and even their beliefs about Jesus and his teachings vary among the numerous Christian denominations. Historians and scientists, irrespective of whatever religious beliefs they may have, use research and evidence to reach conclusions. |