Why does everyone go crazy on Janney threads?

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Anonymous wrote:And not the other Deal/Key Feeder/mostly affluent schools? Where's the Mann hatred? Why does Lafayette not get flamed despite being pretty identical to Janney in most respects?

What am I missing?

The reason is that out of all the affluent schools in NW, Janney is the most affluent. It's human nature for the masses to not like the most affluent. It's the reason why lots of people "hate" Microsoft.

No way, Mann is far more affluent than the rest -- Spring Valley, Foxhall, Kent -- way more expensive than AU park, CCDC or the Palisades.

Yet Janney has a tick lower % of FARM. Both pretty negligible but Janney has a lower % with 2x the enrollment.

Agree that Mann is the more affluent district. The fund raising is well above any other DC public school

But that's because it's a population where a significant portion of students attend private school. But I get your point. Still, on average, I bet the Mann income greatly outpaces the Janney income, FARMS kids included.

The other schools have generally had, up until now, larger percentages of OOB students. Janney was the first to have virtually no one who is OOB. Now more of the rest of the Ward 3 schools are trending in that direction.

Not true. Mann always had fewer. In fact, Mann was the one school that was able to delay being forced into ending at 5th grade (some WOTP schools used to go to 6th) for an extra year or so. That's because all the IB students didn't want to go to Hardy, but Mann has always had more political pull. They're just subtle about it. It's like they're Kennedys and prefer privacy and discretion whereas the Janney folks are like Kardashians. They JUST WON"T SHUT UP.

IB stats:
Janney: 91%
Mann: 81%
Lafayette: 85%
Key: 83%
Murch: 61%

PS- only 61% at murch?

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The other schools have generally had, up until now, larger percentages of OOB students. Janney was the first to have virtually no one who is OOB. Now more of the rest of the Ward 3 schools are trending in that direction.

Not true. Mann always had fewer. In fact, Mann was the one school that was able to delay being forced into ending at 5th grade (some WOTP schools used to go to 6th) for an extra year or so. That's because all the IB students didn't want to go to Hardy, but Mann has always had more political pull. They're just subtle about it. It's like they're Kennedys and prefer privacy and discretion whereas the Janney folks are like Kardashians. They JUST WON"T SHUT UP.

IB stats:
Janney: 91%
Mann: 81%
Lafayette: 85%
Key: 83%
Murch: 61%

PS- only 61% at murch?

Funniest description ever.

And yeah - Murch is lower percentage but growing. Some portion is related to the self-contained classrooms for children with autism and other serious disabilities, but it's always had more spaces (similar to Hearst).

[Anonymous]

Yet another stupid pissing contest over who lives in the wealthiest neighborhood that won't hold their nose over DCPS? BFD

Christ -- I know Janney families and they alternately bitch about the school and praise it as much as anyone else in decently performing DCPS schools. Welcome to DCPS

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Anonymous wrote:And not the other Deal/Key Feeder/mostly affluent schools? Where's the Mann hatred? Why does Lafayette not get flamed despite being pretty identical to Janney in most respects?

What am I missing?

The reason is that out of all the affluent schools in NW, Janney is the most affluent. It's human nature for the masses to not like the most affluent. It's the reason why lots of people "hate" Microsoft.

No way, Mann is far more affluent than the rest -- Spring Valley, Foxhall, Kent -- way more expensive than AU park, CCDC or the Palisades.

Yet Janney has a tick lower % of FARM. Both pretty negligible but Janney has a lower % with 2x the enrollment.

Agree that Mann is the more affluent district. The fund raising is well above any other DC public school

But that's because it's a population where a significant portion of students attend private school. But I get your point. Still, on average, I bet the Mann income greatly outpaces the Janney income, FARMS kids included.

The other schools have generally had, up until now, larger percentages of OOB students. Janney was the first to have virtually no one who is OOB. Now more of the rest of the Ward 3 schools are trending in that direction.

How new are you?! With a couple of exceptions (Eaton and Hearst) WOTP have been almost completely IB for years. In many cases, they've been mostly IB for decades. That you think there's something special about Janney being mostly IB is indicative of the solipsism which leads everyone to poke fun at the fat butt of Janney's self-promoting booster moms.

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Anonymous wrote:Janney feeds to best-in-class Deal. Mann merely feeds to "Hardly" Middle School.

Because Mann families use public ES and go private. Janney families aspire to private but can't afford it, so they talk up their school as though it were Beauvoir. They've got a desperate sort of smell about them and it's starting to spread eastward and provoke fun-making.

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NP and not WOTP. I'd to think most of the mean Janney posters are trolls but I also saw them in person at DME meetings and have had negative association ever since. Now I believe every Janney post even the ones that always say "there's Janney and there's everyone else."

It's pretty sad.

I also think it has to do with those Janney posters wanting to validate their real estate sales and appear more exclusive.

I have met a few nice Janney parents in person (primarily via Stoddert soccer), it's sad that a few (or many) rotten apples have ruined the reputation.

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Anonymous wrote:NP and not WOTP. I'd to think most of the mean Janney posters are trolls but I also saw them in person at DME meetings and have had negative association ever since. Now I believe every Janney post even the ones that always say "there's Janney and there's everyone else."

It's pretty sad.

I also think it has to do with those Janney posters wanting to validate their real estate sales and appear more exclusive.

I have met a few nice Janney parents in person (primarily via Stoddert soccer), it's sad that a few (or many) rotten apples have ruined the reputation.

These DME meetings....What did they say? What was the topic??

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Anonymous wrote:NP and not WOTP. I'd to think most of the mean Janney posters are trolls but I also saw them in person at DME meetings and have had negative association ever since. Now I believe every Janney post even the ones that always say "there's Janney and there's everyone else."

It's pretty sad.

I also think it has to do with those Janney posters wanting to validate their real estate sales and appear more exclusive.

I have met a few nice Janney parents in person (primarily via Stoddert soccer), it's sad that a few (or many) rotten apples have ruined the reputation.

These DME meetings....What did they say? What was the topic??

They came across very rude, combative, and full of themselves. Some of them talked to DME leaders like they were gardeners that worked for them. I felt embarrassed for them. They fought tooth and nail to a needle re-zoning despite acknowledging they were too big/crowded yet used being overcrowded as reasons they would not implant at risk minimums. We all know if you love your school, you don't want ve zoned out of it, but the greater good has to be done in some cases. But overall the general demeanor of some of them rubbed me the wrong way.

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Well, what this thread shows again is that there are a lot of people on this forum who really love bashing Janney parents. They are like Kardashians -- they can't afford private -- they have fat butts -- they are desperate to prop up the value of their shitshacks -- other neighborhoods are so much more affluent -- they have higher crime --- bla bla bla. Do you even hear yourselves talking? Everyone I know personally in AU Park would never dream of putting others down for their lesser affluence, pedigree, or house size. I'm starting to think the Janney haters are not only EOTP but in such neighborhoods as Spring Valley or Kent, where the real snobs appear to live.

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Anonymous wrote:And not the other Deal/Key Feeder/mostly affluent schools? Where's the Mann hatred? Why does Lafayette not get flamed despite being pretty identical to Janney in most respects?

What am I missing?

The reason is that out of all the affluent schools in NW, Janney is the most affluent. It's human nature for the masses to not like the most affluent. It's the reason why lots of people "hate" Microsoft.

No way, Mann is far more affluent than the rest -- Spring Valley, Foxhall, Kent -- way more expensive than AU park, CCDC or the Palisades.

Yet Janney has a tick lower % of FARM. Both pretty negligible but Janney has a lower % with 2x the enrollment.

Agree that Mann is the more affluent district. The fund raising is well above any other DC public school

But that's because it's a population where a significant portion of students attend private school. But I get your point. Still, on average, I bet the Mann income greatly outpaces the Janney income, FARMS kids included.

The other schools have generally had, up until now, larger percentages of OOB students. Janney was the first to have virtually no one who is OOB. Now more of the rest of the Ward 3 schools are trending in that direction.

Not true. Mann always had fewer. In fact, Mann was the one school that was able to delay being forced into ending at 5th grade (some WOTP schools used to go to 6th) for an extra year or so. That's because all the IB students didn't want to go to Hardy, but Mann has always had more political pull. They're just subtle about it. It's like they're Kennedys and prefer privacy and discretion whereas the Janney folks are like Kardashians. They JUST WON"T SHUT UP.

IB stats:
Janney: 91%
Mann: 81%
Lafayette: 85%
Key: 83%
Murch: 61%

PS- only 61% at murch?

It's quite hard to understand why Janney is nearly 10% OOB when it is overcrowded. By definition, shouldn't there be OOB slots only when there is excess capacity over IB enrollment? Shouldn't the admin be more actively pruning the OOB number?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And not the other Deal/Key Feeder/mostly affluent schools? Where's the Mann hatred? Why does Lafayette not get flamed despite being pretty identical to Janney in most respects?

What am I missing?

The reason is that out of all the affluent schools in NW, Janney is the most affluent. It's human nature for the masses to not like the most affluent. It's the reason why lots of people "hate" Microsoft.

No way, Mann is far more affluent than the rest -- Spring Valley, Foxhall, Kent -- way more expensive than AU park, CCDC or the Palisades.

Yet Janney has a tick lower % of FARM. Both pretty negligible but Janney has a lower % with 2x the enrollment.

Agree that Mann is the more affluent district. The fund raising is well above any other DC public school

But that's because it's a population where a significant portion of students attend private school. But I get your point. Still, on average, I bet the Mann income greatly outpaces the Janney income, FARMS kids included.

The other schools have generally had, up until now, larger percentages of OOB students. Janney was the first to have virtually no one who is OOB. Now more of the rest of the Ward 3 schools are trending in that direction.

Not true. Mann always had fewer. In fact, Mann was the one school that was able to delay being forced into ending at 5th grade (some WOTP schools used to go to 6th) for an extra year or so. That's because all the IB students didn't want to go to Hardy, but Mann has always had more political pull. They're just subtle about it. It's like they're Kennedys and prefer privacy and discretion whereas the Janney folks are like Kardashians. They JUST WON"T SHUT UP.

IB stats:
Janney: 91%
Mann: 81%
Lafayette: 85%
Key: 83%
Murch: 61%

PS- only 61% at murch?

It's quite hard to understand why Janney is nearly 10% OOB when it is overcrowded. By definition, shouldn't there be OOB slots only when there is excess capacity over IB enrollment? Shouldn't the admin be more actively pruning the OOB number?

Agree. I don't understand why there are any OOB students unless it was a set aside for at-risk kids, which I don't think has been implemented yet.

[Anonymous]

My guess is that the remaining OOB kids are all in the upper grades, and that the lower grades are at capacity with all IB kids.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that the remaining OOB kids are all in the upper grades, and that the lower grades are at capacity with all IB kids.

Families move and at least the previous Janney principal often let them stay as OOB.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that the remaining OOB kids are all in the upper grades, and that the lower grades are at capacity with all IB kids.

Families move and at least the previous Janney principal often let them stay as OOB.

Adding - this is allowed under DCPS's current 'principal discretion' policy.

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Anonymous wrote:And not the other Deal/Key Feeder/mostly affluent schools? Where's the Mann hatred? Why does Lafayette not get flamed despite being pretty identical to Janney in most respects?

What am I missing?

The reason is that out of all the affluent schools in NW, Janney is the most affluent. It's human nature for the masses to not like the most affluent. It's the reason why lots of people "hate" Microsoft.

No way, Mann is far more affluent than the rest -- Spring Valley, Foxhall, Kent -- way more expensive than AU park, CCDC or the Palisades.

Yet Janney has a tick lower % of FARM. Both pretty negligible but Janney has a lower % with 2x the enrollment.

Agree that Mann is the more affluent district. The fund raising is well above any other DC public school

Mann families can afford private. Janney families went all-in for the ugly little Tenleytown houses and are committed (!!!) to promoting their school and real estate at all costs - even when they make themselves look clueless.

But that's the same situation in CCDC and the Palisades! Same price points, same general housing stock (maybe a bit more land).

Right - but Janney's IB homes are closer to Metro and of anyone, have least chance of ever in the future being zoned out of Deal and Wilson because of that proximity.

Metro proximity and IB middles do not make Janney the most affluent, which is what you were arguing before, and what you have changed your mind about a few times now. Metro accessibility and IB middles are just what makes IB Janney neighborhoods have a higher crime rate.
This. Not going to Deal nor Wilson even if somebody paid us. Not going to metro there when Wilson gets out. Woodley park has a fine metro if needed.