Why are HRCS so popular? Test scores stink.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't choose a school based on test scores. I'm IB for a school with high test scores, but a I picked a HRCS with more programing.

Judging by the OP - I'm glad I made that choice.

And considering how horrible all of PARCC scores are, care to share where you are going? We all know the IB schools and none of the schools in DC have anything to brag about!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I for one didn't expect the MV numbers to be above those of CMI and ITS.

MV only shows scores 3rd-5th, ITS includes 3-7th. Compare grade for grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I for one didn't expect the MV numbers to be above those of CMI and ITS.

MV only shows scores 3rd-5th, ITS includes 3-7th. Compare grade for grade.

You can't - all that's available on OSSE is 3rd and 4th for ITS. Must not be enough students in 5th-7th to report publicly.

CMI's scores are 10% higher if you don't include the special education students, fwiw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I for one didn't expect the MV numbers to be above those of CMI and ITS.

MV only shows scores 3rd-5th, ITS includes 3-7th. Compare grade for grade.

You can't - all that's available on OSSE is 3rd and 4th for ITS. Must not be enough students in 5th-7th to report publicly.

CMI's scores are 10% higher if you don't include the special education students, fwiw.

Wow! where do you see that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I for one didn't expect the MV numbers to be above those of CMI and ITS.

MV only shows scores 3rd-5th, ITS includes 3-7th. Compare grade for grade.

You can't - all that's available on OSSE is 3rd and 4th for ITS. Must not be enough students in 5th-7th to report publicly.

CMI's scores are 10% higher if you don't include the special education students, fwiw.

Wow! where do you see that?

From any school's results page scroll to bottom and click on 'special populations' http://results.osse.dc.gov/school/3069

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I for one didn't expect the MV numbers to be above those of CMI and ITS.

MV only shows scores 3rd-5th, ITS includes 3-7th. Compare grade for grade.

You can't - all that's available on OSSE is 3rd and 4th for ITS. Must not be enough students in 5th-7th to report publicly.

CMI's scores are 10% higher if you don't include the special education students, fwiw.

Wow! where do you see that?

From any school's results page scroll to bottom and click on 'special populations' http://results.osse.dc.gov/school/3069

Don't get too excited. Almost every school has a 10% bump if you factor out special education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The test scores for MV, CMI, and IT. There are a number of DCPS Title I schools with huge populations of ELL and at-risk kids doing better. So why are these charters so popular?

Because there are a number of DCPS schools doing worse. MUCH WORSE. And their performance stinks so much, that parents are willing to cross the city to try better luck elsewhere.

The point is that there are actually DCPS schools that are much loathed on this site that are doing better than MV/CMI/IT. Yes BETTER. Just check some Title I schools and see for yourself. Sure, there are some that doing much worse. But, surprisingly, there are some that doing better. So if people are willing to cross the city for these so-called HRCS, why not save the gas money and go to the neighborhood school?

[Anonymous]

For Yu Ying:

All students: 51% ELA/59% Math

3rd Grade: 31/46
4th Grade: 69/68
5th Grade: 69/73

What is going on with 3rd grade which is the current 4th?!?

By race grades 3-5:

White: 59/74
AA: 34/39
Two or more races: 71/78

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The test scores for MV, CMI, and IT. There are a number of DCPS Title I schools with huge populations of ELL and at-risk kids doing better. So why are these charters so popular?

Because there are a number of DCPS schools doing worse. MUCH WORSE. And their performance stinks so much, that parents are willing to cross the city to try better luck elsewhere.

The point is that there are actually DCPS schools that are much loathed on this site that are doing better than MV/CMI/IT. Yes BETTER. Just check some Title I schools and see for yourself. Sure, there are some that doing much worse. But, surprisingly, there are some that doing better. So if people are willing to cross the city for these so-called HRCS, why not save the gas money and go to the neighborhood school?

You mean testing better (not doing better). Also, are you comparing MV to Walker Jones?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The test scores for MV, CMI, and IT. There are a number of DCPS Title I schools with huge populations of ELL and at-risk kids doing better. So why are these charters so popular?

Because there are a number of DCPS schools doing worse. MUCH WORSE. And their performance stinks so much, that parents are willing to cross the city to try better luck elsewhere.

The point is that there are actually DCPS schools that are much loathed on this site that are doing better than MV/CMI/IT. Yes BETTER. Just check some Title I schools and see for yourself. Sure, there are some that doing much worse. But, surprisingly, there are some that doing better. So if people are willing to cross the city for these so-called HRCS, why not save the gas money and go to the neighborhood school?

I know it's hard for you to wrap your mind around this, but many of us who understand education choose a specific modality. We aren't educating our children as if it's 1950 in cookie cutter classrooms where every kid is treated the same, no matter what they need. Do some research on educational practices. Try and keep up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All parents don't equally value a school that teaches to the test, or at least they don't equally prioritize that over other factors. Especially true of white and higher SES but not limited to those demographics.

This is worth repeating. Have you noticed private schools don't test at all? Hello?! Testing is for poor students to make sure their schools continue to get $$. Parents who care about education may care somewhat about test scores but aren't obsessed by them.

Wrong. Most private schools in the DC area administer the ERBs so parents can see how their students compare to other private school students across the country.

Private schools administer the ERBs but most schools do not spend more than 2 days preparing for it. Big difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The test scores for MV, CMI, and IT. There are a number of DCPS Title I schools with huge populations of ELL and at-risk kids doing better. So why are these charters so popular?

Because there are a number of DCPS schools doing worse. MUCH WORSE. And their performance stinks so much, that parents are willing to cross the city to try better luck elsewhere.

The point is that there are actually DCPS schools that are much loathed on this site that are doing better than MV/CMI/IT. Yes BETTER. Just check some Title I schools and see for yourself. Sure, there are some that doing much worse. But, surprisingly, there are some that doing better. So if people are willing to cross the city for these so-called HRCS, why not save the gas money and go to the neighborhood school?

I know it's hard for you to wrap your mind around this, but many of us who understand education choose a specific modality. We aren't educating our children as if it's 1950 in cookie cutter classrooms where every kid is treated the same, no matter what they need. Do some research on educational practices. Try and keep up.

You say "specific modality" and "educational practices" and I hear yuppy trend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The test scores for MV, CMI, and IT. There are a number of DCPS Title I schools with huge populations of ELL and at-risk kids doing better. So why are these charters so popular?

Because there are a number of DCPS schools doing worse. MUCH WORSE. And their performance stinks so much, that parents are willing to cross the city to try better luck elsewhere.

The point is that there are actually DCPS schools that are much loathed on this site that are doing better than MV/CMI/IT. Yes BETTER. Just check some Title I schools and see for yourself. Sure, there are some that doing much worse. But, surprisingly, there are some that doing better. So if people are willing to cross the city for these so-called HRCS, why not save the gas money and go to the neighborhood school?

I know it's hard for you to wrap your mind around this, but many of us who understand education choose a specific modality. We aren't educating our children as if it's 1950 in cookie cutter classrooms where every kid is treated the same, no matter what they need. Do some research on educational practices. Try and keep up.

This new test is not really meant to reward 'cookie cutter' test prep though

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The test scores for MV, CMI, and IT. There are a number of DCPS Title I schools with huge populations of ELL and at-risk kids doing better. So why are these charters so popular?

Because there are a number of DCPS schools doing worse. MUCH WORSE. And their performance stinks so much, that parents are willing to cross the city to try better luck elsewhere.

The point is that there are actually DCPS schools that are much loathed on this site that are doing better than MV/CMI/IT. Yes BETTER. Just check some Title I schools and see for yourself. Sure, there are some that doing much worse. But, surprisingly, there are some that doing better. So if people are willing to cross the city for these so-called HRCS, why not save the gas money and go to the neighborhood school?

I know it's hard for you to wrap your mind around this, but many of us who understand education choose a specific modality. We aren't educating our children as if it's 1950 in cookie cutter classrooms where every kid is treated the same, no matter what they need. Do some research on educational practices. Try and keep up.

You say "specific modality" and "educational practices" and I hear yuppy trend.

Why not evolution. I wish I had the opportunity to go to a school my children go to.

[Anonymous]

Because hrcs parents like to say they're not into test scores, man!

And then sneer and wring their hands at Powell/Bancroft/Tubman/Barnard et al. Because, I mean, have you seen the test scores? We're not into them, but pedagogy. Man. If you only educated yourself like I have, and learned how important these things are, you'd be doing Montessori unicorn immersion elvish with Larlito too.