Why are HRCS so popular? Test scores stink.

Anonymous
Also, you should never say STFU to a child. I cannot believe that would be in dispute. You say, "Sweetie, we don't talk like that." Or "Jimmy, you know better than interrupting mommy." Who cusses at a child? That's only going to teach them to misbehave.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Coolidge could house 3 different charters - each taking a floor and having plenty of room.

DCPS should lease it to Building Hope which in turn would work with charters seeking space. The financing can be worked out.

And if DCPS wants or needs it back in 2036 they would have that option.




Brilliant idea!

It's a good bet that in 2036, all the kids from Coolidge and Roosevelt STILL won't fill up that $150 renovation. Look at the shining success of Eastern (which the Hill completely rejects and is a money drain for its IB Program) and Dunbar (which the neighborhood thugs broke into the weekend before it opened in order to steal the computers).

Seriously - I hope the Chair of the Education Committee on the Council reads this. With Catania gone, you can't trust anyone to actually think critically about education any more.

We got the government we deserve: Idiocracy.


The city gave Eastern everything the white Capital Hill parents asked for, and they still will not send their kids there. Should the city have not expended money on the little brown and black kids in the neighborhood because the white families refuse to send their children.


Are you kidding? My brown son will never attend Eastern if it up to me. It's a disaster. Spout your racism elsewhere.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Also, you should never say STFU to a child. I cannot believe that would be in dispute. You say, "Sweetie, we don't talk like that." Or "Jimmy, you know better than interrupting mommy." Who cusses at a child? That's only going to teach them to misbehave.


You all are very literal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, you should never say STFU to a child. I cannot believe that would be in dispute. You say, "Sweetie, we don't talk like that." Or "Jimmy, you know better than interrupting mommy." Who cusses at a child? That's only going to teach them to misbehave.


You all are very literal.




It's a message board on the internet. How much interpretation of your tone of voice do you expect?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, you should never say STFU to a child. I cannot believe that would be in dispute. You say, "Sweetie, we don't talk like that." Or "Jimmy, you know better than interrupting mommy." Who cusses at a child? That's only going to teach them to misbehave.


You all are very literal.




It's a message board on the internet. How much interpretation of your tone of voice do you expect?


this was actually said to the child at a playground. nothing surprises me in DC. this kid really doesn't have a chance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, you should never say STFU to a child. I cannot believe that would be in dispute. You say, "Sweetie, we don't talk like that." Or "Jimmy, you know better than interrupting mommy." Who cusses at a child? That's only going to teach them to misbehave.


You all are very literal.




It's a message board on the internet. How much interpretation of your tone of voice do you expect?


this was actually said to the child at a playground. nothing surprises me in DC. this kid really doesn't have a chance.


Because he heard a curse word? Hah. You know who doesn't have a chance to see other children as children? Your dear Karla, whose mother sighs in front of her and shakes her head and says, "those poor children don't have a chance. It's a damn shame."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, you should never say STFU to a child. I cannot believe that would be in dispute. You say, "Sweetie, we don't talk like that." Or "Jimmy, you know better than interrupting mommy." Who cusses at a child? That's only going to teach them to misbehave.


You all are very literal.




It's a message board on the internet. How much interpretation of your tone of voice do you expect?


this was actually said to the child at a playground. nothing surprises me in DC. this kid really doesn't have a chance.


Because he heard a curse word? Hah. You know who doesn't have a chance to see other children as children? Your dear Karla, whose mother sighs in front of her and shakes her head and says, "those poor children don't have a chance. It's a damn shame."





If what the PP overheard was an adult telling her child to STFU on the playground, then yeah, I do think that child's got a tougher road than most of us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, you should never say STFU to a child. I cannot believe that would be in dispute. You say, "Sweetie, we don't talk like that." Or "Jimmy, you know better than interrupting mommy." Who cusses at a child? That's only going to teach them to misbehave.


You all are very literal.




It's a message board on the internet. How much interpretation of your tone of voice do you expect?


this was actually said to the child at a playground. nothing surprises me in DC. this kid really doesn't have a chance.


Because he heard a curse word? Hah. You know who doesn't have a chance to see other children as children? Your dear Karla, whose mother sighs in front of her and shakes her head and says, "those poor children don't have a chance. It's a damn shame."





If what the PP overheard was an adult telling her child to STFU on the playground, then yeah, I do think that child's got a tougher road than most of us.


A-F'ING-MEN. That is not okay. How can anyone think that is okay? Do you think Barack has ever ONCE said STFU to his daughters? No. He's not raising gang-bangers. He says, "Darling, I adore you, but Daddy is talking to Putin on the phone right now and trying to make sure he doesn't hack into our government official emails anymore. I'm sorry, baby, but I'll make time to talk as soon as I'm done dealing with Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea." When Michelle is interrupted, she says, "Is that the way you are going to act when we have dinner with Queen Elizabeth next month? I'll be embarrassed that I did not raise you better. Please remember that we always wait for an adult to finish talking, listen to them, and then we can talk. This is how civilized humans communicate."

My child definitely knows to respect me -- I'm not his friend, I'm his parent. But I don't cuss at him, because I sure as heck don't want him cussing at my grandchildren one day. Saying "don't interrupt me" or "I need some peace and quiet right now" is not the same as STFU. You end up with better behaved children, mutual respect, and children who are not afraid to talk with their parents about important issues. If there are seriously parents on DCUM (who care enough about their kids, our schools, and DCPS' future to be here) who believe saying STFU to a young child on a playground in front of other kids is EVER acceptable, we don't need to call CPS, we need to arrange required parent training at all the DCPS schools for our future generation. There can be multiple dates for 1-hour -- you only need to show up once, but ever parent needs some basic -- civilized human training 101. Lesson one of CHT 101: don't cuss at children.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Coolidge could house 3 different charters - each taking a floor and having plenty of room.

DCPS should lease it to Building Hope which in turn would work with charters seeking space. The financing can be worked out.

And if DCPS wants or needs it back in 2036 they would have that option.




Brilliant idea!

It's a good bet that in 2036, all the kids from Coolidge and Roosevelt STILL won't fill up that $150 renovation. Look at the shining success of Eastern (which the Hill completely rejects and is a money drain for its IB Program) and Dunbar (which the neighborhood thugs broke into the weekend before it opened in order to steal the computers).

Seriously - I hope the Chair of the Education Committee on the Council reads this. With Catania gone, you can't trust anyone to actually think critically about education any more.

We got the government we deserve: Idiocracy.


The city gave Eastern everything the white Capital Hill parents asked for, and they still will not send their kids there. Should the city have not expended money on the little brown and black kids in the neighborhood because the white families refuse to send their children.


Are you kidding? My brown son will never attend Eastern if it up to me. It's a disaster. Spout your racism elsewhere.


And why would you never send your brown son to Eastern? What makes it a disaster?
Anonymous
Back to the original question, "Why are HRCS so popular (even though their test scores stink)?

Reason number 1: Parents don't swear at their children on the playground. My HRCS has awful test scores. I don't care because my child is happy, safe, loved, and nurtured. Amongst the other benefits, I don't have to worry about parents, teachers, admin, etc cussing at my young, impressionable child. I also don't have to worry about weapons, drugs, gangs.

Truthfully, I'm not even worried about test scores. The PARCC test is not a great indicator of my child's college success IMHO. Who tests a kid at 3rd grade to decide whether they will be successful in college? If that were the case, why isn't Harvard, Yale, and Stanford looking at my 3rd graders PARCC results. Hmmm -- could it be that they know that they don't matter. We are talking about elementary school!

Obviously, high school matters (colleges do look at those scores) so I will look at middle schools that feed into top DS high schools (BASIS, Latin), but I am personally overjoyed that my child is at a CS where he is cared for and where test scores stink (just another indicator to me that teachers care about him and not teaching to a test).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Back to the original question, "Why are HRCS so popular (even though their test scores stink)?

Reason number 1: Parents don't swear at their children on the playground. My HRCS has awful test scores. I don't care because my child is happy, safe, loved, and nurtured. Amongst the other benefits, I don't have to worry about parents, teachers, admin, etc cussing at my young, impressionable child. I also don't have to worry about weapons, drugs, gangs.

Truthfully, I'm not even worried about test scores. The PARCC test is not a great indicator of my child's college success IMHO. Who tests a kid at 3rd grade to decide whether they will be successful in college? If that were the case, why isn't Harvard, Yale, and Stanford looking at my 3rd graders PARCC results. Hmmm -- could it be that they know that they don't matter. We are talking about elementary school!

Obviously, high school matters (colleges do look at those scores) so I will look at middle schools that feed into top DS high schools (BASIS, Latin), but I am personally overjoyed that my child is at a CS where he is cared for and where test scores stink (just another indicator to me that teachers care about him and not teaching to a test).




I would agree that a lot of higher-SES parents and well-educated parents don't particularly care about test scores. In fact, some of them deliberately keep their children home as a protest against the test.

If parents are comfortable with the school's instructional methods and teachers and the child's cohort, then test scores aren't a huge deal. Teaching to the test in the lower grades would be a turn-off for our family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Back to the original question, "Why are HRCS so popular (even though their test scores stink)?

Reason number 1: Parents don't swear at their children on the playground. My HRCS has awful test scores. I don't care because my child is happy, safe, loved, and nurtured. Amongst the other benefits, I don't have to worry about parents, teachers, admin, etc cussing at my young, impressionable child. I also don't have to worry about weapons, drugs, gangs.

Truthfully, I'm not even worried about test scores. The PARCC test is not a great indicator of my child's college success IMHO. Who tests a kid at 3rd grade to decide whether they will be successful in college? If that were the case, why isn't Harvard, Yale, and Stanford looking at my 3rd graders PARCC results. Hmmm -- could it be that they know that they don't matter. We are talking about elementary school!

Obviously, high school matters (colleges do look at those scores) so I will look at middle schools that feed into top DS high schools (BASIS, Latin), but I am personally overjoyed that my child is at a CS where he is cared for and where test scores stink (just another indicator to me that teachers care about him and not teaching to a test).


I would agree that a lot of higher-SES parents and well-educated parents don't particularly care about test scores. In fact, some of them deliberately keep their children home as a protest against the test.

If parents are comfortable with the school's instructional methods and teachers and the child's cohort, then test scores aren't a huge deal. Teaching to the test in the lower grades would be a turn-off for our family.


Can I keep DC home to protest against the test? I thought he'd just be forced to make it up a different day. Does anyone know if there is a opt-out or "stay home" option in DCPS?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Back to the original question, "Why are HRCS so popular (even though their test scores stink)?

Reason number 1: Parents don't swear at their children on the playground. My HRCS has awful test scores. I don't care because my child is happy, safe, loved, and nurtured. Amongst the other benefits, I don't have to worry about parents, teachers, admin, etc cussing at my young, impressionable child. I also don't have to worry about weapons, drugs, gangs.

Truthfully, I'm not even worried about test scores. The PARCC test is not a great indicator of my child's college success IMHO. Who tests a kid at 3rd grade to decide whether they will be successful in college? If that were the case, why isn't Harvard, Yale, and Stanford looking at my 3rd graders PARCC results. Hmmm -- could it be that they know that they don't matter. We are talking about elementary school!

Obviously, high school matters (colleges do look at those scores) so I will look at middle schools that feed into top DS high schools (BASIS, Latin), but I am personally overjoyed that my child is at a CS where he is cared for and where test scores stink (just another indicator to me that teachers care about him and not teaching to a test).


I would agree that a lot of higher-SES parents and well-educated parents don't particularly care about test scores. In fact, some of them deliberately keep their children home as a protest against the test.

If parents are comfortable with the school's instructional methods and teachers and the child's cohort, then test scores aren't a huge deal. Teaching to the test in the lower grades would be a turn-off for our family.


Can I keep DC home to protest against the test? I thought he'd just be forced to make it up a different day. Does anyone know if there is a opt-out or "stay home" option in DCPS?


The Post reported Kaya Henderson as saying she received several dozen opt-out requests last year, and all were denied.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/05/04/why-movement-opt-out-common-core-tests-big-deal

http://www.fairtest.org/get-involved/opting-out

http://truthinamericaneducation.com/common-core-assessments/opt-info/


Call in sick.


DCPS will pull your child out of class for a make up test. Or so I'm told.
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