Why are HRCS so popular? Test scores stink.

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Anonymous wrote:All you that complain about renovating a school with 400 students, what do you want the city to do with these schools? Shut them down and send all the kids to wilson? Or let the 400 kids stay in a school that's falling apart?

We want the students zoned for Coolidge to be rezoned to Roosevelt, which is less than 2 miles away.

Most students IB for Coolidge already exercise choice and go to charters or Banneker or McKinley. If you ride the red line from Takoma or Ft Totten you can see for yourself. Mobbed with kids going anywhere but Coolidge.

Well damn, have you been inside Coolidge? I would not send my child to that roach and rat infested place either. That's the purpose for renovating the school. Do you want the building to sit empty, is that your choice.

Yes I've been inside Coolidge and it's awful. I'd like to see DCPS sell it off completely, or do a long-term (20-year) lease to a charter school which would have to come up with the money for a renovation.

The city has increased its population by 100k in the last ten years. I don't think the city should keep giving away their schools. It will cost more to buy the buildings and land back in the future to educate these upcoming children. And no, the charter schools cannot educate them all. Moreover, I don't want DC public school education to become like New Orleans where the only option is a charter school.

As for a 20year lease to a charter, I don't think that is economically feasible to a charter school. The charter would have to renovate the building for millions of dollars, but is only entitled to its use for 20 years. The city has already given KIPP and Friendship charters these sweet heart deals, but with much longer leases. Basically, the city will never gain those properties back.

Washington Latin has a 20-year lease on its building, as does Cap City. That's the only term DCPS will give anymore. A few years back they sold buildings outright but now it's all leases.

This. ITS and MV also have 20 year leases.

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Coolidge could house 3 different charters - each taking a floor and having plenty of room.

DCPS should lease it to Building Hope which in turn would work with charters seeking space. The financing can be worked out.

And if DCPS wants or needs it back in 2036 they would have that option.

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Anonymous wrote:All you that complain about renovating a school with 400 students, what do you want the city to do with these schools? Shut them down and send all the kids to wilson? Or let the 400 kids stay in a school that's falling apart?

We want the students zoned for Coolidge to be rezoned to Roosevelt, which is less than 2 miles away.

Most students IB for Coolidge already exercise choice and go to charters or Banneker or McKinley. If you ride the red line from Takoma or Ft Totten you can see for yourself. Mobbed with kids going anywhere but Coolidge.

Well damn, have you been inside Coolidge? I would not send my child to that roach and rat infested place either. That's the purpose for renovating the school. Do you want the building to sit empty, is that your choice.

Yes I've been inside Coolidge and it's awful. I'd like to see DCPS sell it off completely, or do a long-term (20-year) lease to a charter school which would have to come up with the money for a renovation.

The city has increased its population by 100k in the last ten years. I don't think the city should keep giving away their schools. It will cost more to buy the buildings and land back in the future to educate these upcoming children. And no, the charter schools cannot educate them all. Moreover, I don't want DC public school education to become like New Orleans where the only option is a charter school.

As for a 20year lease to a charter, I don't think that is economically feasible to a charter school. The charter would have to renovate the building for millions of dollars, but is only entitled to its use for 20 years. The city has already given KIPP and Friendship charters these sweet heart deals, but with much longer leases. Basically, the city will never gain those properties back.

It's always interesting to see posters who have no idea what they are talking about post on DCUMs. It lets us know where we have to target our education regarding the ignorance of DC educational facilities.

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Anonymous wrote:Coolidge could house 3 different charters - each taking a floor and having plenty of room.

DCPS should lease it to Building Hope which in turn would work with charters seeking space. The financing can be worked out.

And if DCPS wants or needs it back in 2036 they would have that option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Coolidge could house 3 different charters - each taking a floor and having plenty of room.

DCPS should lease it to Building Hope which in turn would work with charters seeking space. The financing can be worked out.

And if DCPS wants or needs it back in 2036 they would have that option.

Brilliant idea!

It's a good bet that in 2036, all the kids from Coolidge and Roosevelt STILL won't fill up that $150 renovation. Look at the shining success of Eastern (which the Hill completely rejects and is a money drain for its IB Program) and Dunbar (which the neighborhood thugs broke into the weekend before it opened in order to steal the computers).

Seriously - I hope the Chair of the Education Committee on the Council reads this. With Catania gone, you can't trust anyone to actually think critically about education any more.

We got the government we deserve: Idiocracy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Coolidge could house 3 different charters - each taking a floor and having plenty of room.

DCPS should lease it to Building Hope which in turn would work with charters seeking space. The financing can be worked out.

And if DCPS wants or needs it back in 2036 they would have that option.

Brilliant idea!

It's a good bet that in 2036, all the kids from Coolidge and Roosevelt STILL won't fill up that $150 renovation. Look at the shining success of Eastern (which the Hill completely rejects and is a money drain for its IB Program) and Dunbar (which the neighborhood thugs broke into the weekend before it opened in order to steal the computers).

Seriously - I hope the Chair of the Education Committee on the Council reads this. With Catania gone, you can't trust anyone to actually think critically about education any more.

We got the government we deserve: Idiocracy.

I heard DCI may need space and it's filling a MS gap need in DC.

DC cannot have an all charter school situation. Charter schools give another option to families, but if there is no other option (that is, no DCPS schools) than it's the same problem as before --- charter schools have just replaced it.

I'm concerned about the number of charters already. There should be only charters that offer a new option and have a new idea, and go into new areas of DC. There has to be a hard-line standard. I am also concerned about the number of charters that are both MS & HS, or both ES & MS. Now, there are even K-12 charters. We see from DCPS that the K-8 model is not working but the K-5 schools are much better (no great example outside of Deal for a 6-8 school). I'd like DCPS to focus on its K-8, MS, and HS. Similarly, charters should focus on the alternative that they are offering (whether ES, MS, or HS) and stop expanding like monopolies. It should be a non-profit endevour, not a corporation hungry for money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coolidge could house 3 different charters - each taking a floor and having plenty of room.

DCPS should lease it to Building Hope which in turn would work with charters seeking space. The financing can be worked out.

And if DCPS wants or needs it back in 2036 they would have that option.

Brilliant idea!

It's a good bet that in 2036, all the kids from Coolidge and Roosevelt STILL won't fill up that $150 renovation. Look at the shining success of Eastern (which the Hill completely rejects and is a money drain for its IB Program) and Dunbar (which the neighborhood thugs broke into the weekend before it opened in order to steal the computers).

Seriously - I hope the Chair of the Education Committee on the Council reads this. With Catania gone, you can't trust anyone to actually think critically about education any more.

We got the government we deserve: Idiocracy.

I heard DCI may need space and it's filling a MS gap need in DC.

DC cannot have an all charter school situation. Charter schools give another option to families, but if there is no other option (that is, no DCPS schools) than it's the same problem as before --- charter schools have just replaced it.

I'm concerned about the number of charters already. There should be only charters that offer a new option and have a new idea, and go into new areas of DC. There has to be a hard-line standard. I am also concerned about the number of charters that are both MS & HS, or both ES & MS. Now, there are even K-12 charters. We see from DCPS that the K-8 model is not working but the K-5 schools are much better (no great example outside of Deal for a 6-8 school). I'd like DCPS to focus on its K-8, MS, and HS. Similarly, charters should focus on the alternative that they are offering (whether ES, MS, or HS) and stop expanding like monopolies. It should be a non-profit endevour, not a corporation hungry for money.

The number of new charters has actually slowed to a trickle, and each year some have closed due to poor performance.

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Anonymous wrote:Until DCBrings back legitimate test in/tracking or gifted classes starting in 3rd grade, parents who have option will continue to seek charter schools. Even if the test scores stink, most charter schools don't have the behavioral problems at a lot of DCPS. We already seeing major behavioral issues at kids PK4 class. Way beyond the norm but after witnessing the behavior of parents it's no shock. Kid is destined to be in the system at some point. Son yeah see selecting at charter school would at lease lesson some of that issue.

So where do these behavioral children attend school once they are kicked out of their charters. I'm sorry, counseled out of their charter schools. Do you not think they deserve an education in a facility without rats and roaches. A facility where the windows open and the heat/air condition works. Or, you just don't care because your little darling is in attendance at one of the charters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All you that complain about renovating a school with 400 students, what do you want the city to do with these schools? Shut them down and send all the kids to wilson? Or let the 400 kids stay in a school that's falling apart?

We want the students zoned for Coolidge to be rezoned to Roosevelt, which is less than 2 miles away.

Most students IB for Coolidge already exercise choice and go to charters or Banneker or McKinley. If you ride the red line from Takoma or Ft Totten you can see for yourself. Mobbed with kids going anywhere but Coolidge.

Well damn, have you been inside Coolidge? I would not send my child to that roach and rat infested place either. That's the purpose for renovating the school. Do you want the building to sit empty, is that your choice.

Yes I've been inside Coolidge and it's awful. I'd like to see DCPS sell it off completely, or do a long-term (20-year) lease to a charter school which would have to come up with the money for a renovation.

The city has increased its population by 100k in the last ten years. I don't think the city should keep giving away their schools. It will cost more to buy the buildings and land back in the future to educate these upcoming children. And no, the charter schools cannot educate them all. Moreover, I don't want DC public school education to become like New Orleans where the only option is a charter school.

As for a 20year lease to a charter, I don't think that is economically feasible to a charter school. The charter would have to renovate the building for millions of dollars, but is only entitled to its use for 20 years. The city has already given KIPP and Friendship charters these sweet heart deals, but with much longer leases. Basically, the city will never gain those properties back.

Washington Latin has a 20-year lease on its building, as does Cap City. That's the only term DCPS will give anymore. A few years back they sold buildings outright but now it's all leases.

DCPS is never getting the Latin building back. Never.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Until DCBrings back legitimate test in/tracking or gifted classes starting in 3rd grade, parents who have option will continue to seek charter schools. Even if the test scores stink, most charter schools don't have the behavioral problems at a lot of DCPS. We already seeing major behavioral issues at kids PK4 class. Way beyond the norm but after witnessing the behavior of parents it's no shock. Kid is destined to be in the system at some point. Son yeah see selecting at charter school would at lease lesson some of that issue.

So where do these behavioral children attend school once they are kicked out of their charters. I'm sorry, counseled out of their charter schools. Do you not think they deserve an education in a facility without rats and roaches. A facility where the windows open and the heat/air condition works. Or, you just don't care because your little darling is in attendance at one of the charters.

DCUMSJWs stop social justice warrioring when it comes to economic and racial diversity at their own schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coolidge could house 3 different charters - each taking a floor and having plenty of room.

DCPS should lease it to Building Hope which in turn would work with charters seeking space. The financing can be worked out.

And if DCPS wants or needs it back in 2036 they would have that option.

Brilliant idea!

It's a good bet that in 2036, all the kids from Coolidge and Roosevelt STILL won't fill up that $150 renovation. Look at the shining success of Eastern (which the Hill completely rejects and is a money drain for its IB Program) and Dunbar (which the neighborhood thugs broke into the weekend before it opened in order to steal the computers).

Seriously - I hope the Chair of the Education Committee on the Council reads this. With Catania gone, you can't trust anyone to actually think critically about education any more.

We got the government we deserve: Idiocracy.

The city gave Eastern everything the white Capital Hill parents asked for, and they still will not send their kids there. Should the city have not expended money on the little brown and black kids in the neighborhood because the white families refuse to send their children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Until DCBrings back legitimate test in/tracking or gifted classes starting in 3rd grade, parents who have option will continue to seek charter schools. Even if the test scores stink, most charter schools don't have the behavioral problems at a lot of DCPS. We already seeing major behavioral issues at kids PK4 class. Way beyond the norm but after witnessing the behavior of parents it's no shock. Kid is destined to be in the system at some point. Son yeah see selecting at charter school would at lease lesson some of that issue.

So where do these behavioral children attend school once they are kicked out of their charters. I'm sorry, counseled out of their charter schools. Do you not think they deserve an education in a facility without rats and roaches. A facility where the windows open and the heat/air condition works. Or, you just don't care because your little darling is in attendance at one of the charters.

DCUMSJWs stop social justice warrioring when it comes to economic and racial diversity at their own schools.

Someone actually said to me "I'm all for social justice, but..."

Gross

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Until DCBrings back legitimate test in/tracking or gifted classes starting in 3rd grade, parents who have option will continue to seek charter schools. Even if the test scores stink, most charter schools don't have the behavioral problems at a lot of DCPS. We already seeing major behavioral issues at kids PK4 class. Way beyond the norm but after witnessing the behavior of parents it's no shock. Kid is destined to be in the system at some point. Son yeah see selecting at charter school would at lease lesson some of that issue.

So where do these behavioral children attend school once they are kicked out of their charters. I'm sorry, counseled out of their charter schools. Do you not think they deserve an education in a facility without rats and roaches. A facility where the windows open and the heat/air condition works. Or, you just don't care because your little darling is in attendance at one of the charters.

DCUMSJWs stop social justice warrioring when it comes to economic and racial diversity at their own schools.

Someone actually said to me "I'm all for social justice, but..."

Gross

actually i think the kids paretns need to be be investigated by CPS or at a mimimum have to attend parenting classes. basic stuff like don't tell your kid to to shut the fuck up, in front of other kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Until DCBrings back legitimate test in/tracking or gifted classes starting in 3rd grade, parents who have option will continue to seek charter schools. Even if the test scores stink, most charter schools don't have the behavioral problems at a lot of DCPS. We already seeing major behavioral issues at kids PK4 class. Way beyond the norm but after witnessing the behavior of parents it's no shock. Kid is destined to be in the system at some point. Son yeah see selecting at charter school would at lease lesson some of that issue.

So where do these behavioral children attend school once they are kicked out of their charters. I'm sorry, counseled out of their charter schools. Do you not think they deserve an education in a facility without rats and roaches. A facility where the windows open and the heat/air condition works. Or, you just don't care because your little darling is in attendance at one of the charters.

DCUMSJWs stop social justice warrioring when it comes to economic and racial diversity at their own schools.

Someone actually said to me "I'm all for social justice, but..."

Gross

actually i think the kids paretns need to be be investigated by CPS or at a mimimum have to attend parenting classes. basic stuff like don't tell your kid to to shut the fuck up, in front of other kids.

I think some parents need to tell their kids to shut the F up more often. Raising little brats.

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What parents say "STFU" to their kids? DCPS parents?

I have two children at DCPS. It's a very well-behaved campus, run by a caring principal in Ward 1. A few of the teachers sometimes raise their voices more than necessary, but the parents do not. I am frustrated that DCPS have the reputation of troubled schools since that reputation exasperates the problem of IB families looking for OOB and charter spots instead of touring the local IB school first. I don't think the parents need to be investigated by CPS, but I do think the teachers could use some training on techniques when they are overwhelmed.