How clever was Trump (strategically)? Or did he just get lucky?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:you have to give the maniac some credit for stealing the Republican nomination

Stealing? Via the completely undemocratic and illegitimate method of getting more votes and winning more elections?

Are you really so retarded that you think he "stole" the nomination?

I have a "retarded" child and this is quite hurtful, but I guess you don't care. I think the OP was using the word stole in the same manner as "stole the show" or "stole the limelight". Not literally "stole".

Don't let it be hurtful to you, PP. Just consider the source. Not worth your time or effort.

Trump doesn't worry about using the word "retarded". Every day a new word deemed inappropriate. It was not directed to your child, so do not take it personally.

Actually, no, that word has been inappropriate for a very, very long time. Are you sad that the N word is inappropriate too, pp? Sorry you are out of touch and insensitive.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We live in a society where. a child is suspended from school for bringing a bubble gun in. All of the ridiculous leftist crap and code of fear and silence if you publicly express a differing view.... That's what trump articulated for many of his supporters. If you or me say that Muslim's are scary and much more likely to be terrorists we get ostracized or worse.

The other republicans were all effete milquetoasts easily defeated. Trump beat them because they were all very weak people. Even Cruz who threw a temper tantrum when Trump went after his father. They are all very feminized girly men. Florina was smart but ugly as sin, no appeal at all.

Trump is a true alpha male. Men respond to that positively unless they are metro sexual pajama boys.

Trump definitely needs a catalyst or exogenous event to beat Hillary because white males are a minority. If the Muzzies take down another skyscraper this fall that should help him because even Hispanics don't want their asses getting blown off.

On election night , you'll realize there are simply not enough pigs like you left in this country for your orange hero to win. But hey! Dreaming is free

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump took advantage of the demographic pickle the GOP has gotten itself into. The consultants are telling the party it needs to broaden its base and be more inclusive, the base isn't broad enough to win any more. Inclusiveness doesn't fly with the base, however. So everyone was running away from the base with an eye on the general election. Trump made a decision to win the base without regard for the consequences.

I wish I could but you a cold one . Lol. Furthermore the GOP demographic will only keep getting worse as time goes by.The White House is now a democrats job to lose

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump took advantage of the demographic pickle the GOP has gotten itself into. The consultants are telling the party it needs to broaden its base and be more inclusive, the base isn't broad enough to win any more. Inclusiveness doesn't fly with the base, however. So everyone was running away from the base with an eye on the general election. Trump made a decision to win the base without regard for the consequences.

I wish I could but you a cold one . Lol. Furthermore the GOP demographic will only keep getting worse as time goes by.The White House is now a democrats job to lose

Thanks.

And here's Part B: the Republicans are all falling in line behind Trump, because they're Republicans, that's what they do. All that base-broadening? It's like it never happened. It's like when you spend time humoring your girlfriend's idiot relatives, and then she goes and dumps you anyway.

[Anonymous]

It's interesting to see some of the comments on here. I don't think they were paying any attention to the Republicans during the primary.

Trump didn't win the Republican base. The base, if we define it as the conservative right/Christian right, voted for Cruz. What Trump did was to bring many nominal Republicans or independents to the Republican primaries and they were the ones who gave him his winning margins. He definitely broadened the "base" and that's why there was a huge turnout in the Republican primaries this year. Look at the Washington primary, Trump is guaranteed to be the nominee but 400,000 people still came out to vote for him.

Interesting poll below. It's just one poll, but it does illustrate what I'm reading from the polls and that's Trump is building a coalition that has yet to be fully defined but constitutes of a different range of supporters than one normally finds in a Republican coalition, at least in the last few elections. It's very unpredictable to see how this will ultimately play out and trying to make comparisons to previous elections will be misleading.

http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/05/23/abc-poll-trump-surge-due-massive-36-millennial-swing/

Some people are reacting to the Trump upsurge by pointing to Obama's polls in May 2008, but I remember that election well and it was a case of a fresh new face gaining support as time went along (sounds similar to Trump versus Clinton, no?), and of course, there was a major economic collapse in the fall of 2008 that damaged the Republican brand badly while helping Obama.

We're in a very weird year, politically, and trying to rely on old conventions is not going to help us understand how this election is taking form and shape.

[Anonymous]

It's interesting to see some of the comments on here. I don't think they were paying any attention to the Republicans during the primary.

Trump didn't win the Republican base. The base, if we define it as the conservative right/Christian right, voted for Cruz. What Trump did was to bring many nominal Republicans or independents to the Republican primaries and they were the ones who gave him his winning margins. He definitely broadened the "base" and that's why there was a huge turnout in the Republican primaries this year. Look at the Washington primary, Trump is guaranteed to be the nominee but 400,000 people still came out to vote for him.

Interesting poll below. It's just one poll, but it does illustrate what I'm reading from the polls and that's Trump is building a coalition that has yet to be fully defined but constitutes of a different range of supporters than one normally finds in a Republican coalition, at least in the last few elections. It's very unpredictable to see how this will ultimately play out and trying to make comparisons to previous elections will be misleading.

http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/05/23/abc-poll-tr...e-massive-36-millennial-swing/

Some people are reacting to the Trump upsurge by pointing to Obama's polls in May 2008, but I remember that election well and it was a case of a fresh new face gaining support as time went along (sounds similar to Trump versus Clinton, no?), and of course, there was a major economic collapse in the fall of 2008 that damaged the Republican brand badly while helping Obama.

We're in a very weird year, politically, and trying to rely on old conventions is not going to help us understand how this election is taking form and shape.

Nope, the results here were at best mixed. Trump won the South and crushed in some bible belt states - South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi. And Trump also hoovered up some of the Tea Party crowd, which like it or not, is part of the R base. And that's not even counting the anti-immigrant base. He definitely won the "base" even if there were some hold out groups as well.

Though I'll also agree with this:

We're in a very weird year, politically, and trying to rely on old conventions is not going to help us understand how this election is taking form and shape.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We live in a society where. a child is suspended from school for bringing a bubble gun in. All of the ridiculous leftist crap and code of fear and silence if you publicly express a differing view.... That's what trump articulated for many of his supporters. If you or me say that Muslim's are scary and much more likely to be terrorists we get ostracized or worse.

The other republicans were all effete milquetoasts easily defeated. Trump beat them because they were all very weak people. Even Cruz who threw a temper tantrum when Trump went after his father. They are all very feminized girly men. Florina was smart but ugly as sin, no appeal at all.

Trump is a true alpha male. Men respond to that positively unless they are metro sexual pajama boys.

Trump definitely needs a catalyst or exogenous event to beat Hillary because white males are a minority. If the Muzzies take down another skyscraper this fall that should help him because even Hispanics don't want their asses getting blown off.

+1

Also, he appeals to beta men who are impressed by him.

[Anonymous]

And Trump won New England handidly.

You don't really understand the Republican politics, do you? Trump won his Southern states because the vote was split between Cruz and Rubio.

Really look at the polling breakdowns. Look carefully. The religious right did not vote for Trump.

There's too much misunderstanding of Trump and his allure. He's generated a lot of support among non religious, non radical republicans and Independents and even old fashioned conservative Democrats. Any Democrat who doesn't realize this is setting thrmselves up for a major surprise come this November. I am not a Trump supporter, Bernie is the candidate I like the most, but even I acknowledge that Trump is being badly misunderstood by the Democrats. And that is probably why Trump will win.

Anonymous wrote:

It's interesting to see some of the comments on here. I don't think they were paying any attention to the Republicans during the primary.

Trump didn't win the Republican base. The base, if we define it as the conservative right/Christian right, voted for Cruz. What Trump did was to bring many nominal Republicans or independents to the Republican primaries and they were the ones who gave him his winning margins. He definitely broadened the "base" and that's why there was a huge turnout in the Republican primaries this year. Look at the Washington primary, Trump is guaranteed to be the nominee but 400,000 people still came out to vote for him.

Interesting poll below. It's just one poll, but it does illustrate what I'm reading from the polls and that's Trump is building a coalition that has yet to be fully defined but constitutes of a different range of supporters than one normally finds in a Republican coalition, at least in the last few elections. It's very unpredictable to see how this will ultimately play out and trying to make comparisons to previous elections will be misleading.

http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/05/23/abc-poll-tr...e-massive-36-millennial-swing/

Some people are reacting to the Trump upsurge by pointing to Obama's polls in May 2008, but I remember that election well and it was a case of a fresh new face gaining support as time went along (sounds similar to Trump versus Clinton, no?), and of course, there was a major economic collapse in the fall of 2008 that damaged the Republican brand badly while helping Obama.

We're in a very weird year, politically, and trying to rely on old conventions is not going to help us understand how this election is taking form and shape.

Nope, the results here were at best mixed. Trump won the South and crushed in some bible belt states - South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi. And Trump also hoovered up some of the Tea Party crowd, which like it or not, is part of the R base. And that's not even counting the anti-immigrant base. He definitely won the "base" even if there were some hold out groups as well.

Though I'll also agree with this:

We're in a very weird year, politically, and trying to rely on old conventions is not going to help us understand how this election is taking form and shape.