Asian-American Groups Accuse Brown, Dartmouth, and Yale of Bias in Admissions
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Anonymous
Well, don't feel too bad. It's not just against Asians. I think Americans, generally speaking, feel a lot of resentment towards other races. From that standpoint, we (regardless of your race) are equally guilty. It is no "melting pot"... Just a pot with different things that don't mix thrown in. |
Anonymous
That doesn't make this AMERICAN feel any better. I don't like to see racism against other races either. |
Anonymous
Sigh... I hear you but that's where we are as a nation. |
Anonymous
If you asked Srinivasan or katyal (potential future scotus short list appointments) if they would overturn grutter, They would shit themselves and then vehemently say no. |
Anonymous
How long did it take for Jews to be "accepted" in this country? How long have Asian Americans been a sizeable group in this country, even more so, started applying en massse to elite universities? None of this happens over night. "Jews at Harvard tripled to 21% of the freshman class in 1922 from about 7% in 1900. Ivy League Jews won a disproportionate share of academic prizes and election to Phi Beta Kappa but were widely regarded as competitive, eager to excel academically and less interested in extra-curricular activities such as organized sports. Non-Jews accused them of being clannish, socially unskilled and either unwilling or unable to“fit in.” --sounds exactly like how some describe Asian American students. continuing.... "In 1922, Harvard's president, A. Lawrence Lowell, proposed a quota on the number of Jews gaining admission to the university. Lowell was convinced that Harvard could only survive if the majority of its students came from old American stock. Lowell argued that cutting the number of Jews at Harvard to a maximum of 15% would be good for the Jews, because limits would prevent further anti-Semitism. Lowell reasoned, “The anti-Semitic feeling among the students is increasing, and it grows in proportion to the increase in the number of Jews. If their number should become 40% of the student body, the race feeling would become intense.”" -- again, sound exactly like what's happening to Asian American students. "In the late 1930s, James Bryant Conant, Lowell's successor as president, eased the geographic distribution requirements, and Jewish students were once again admitted primarily on the basis of merit." So, a jewish student started the battle in 1922, and in 1930, the new Harvard President eased the restrictions...so 7 yrs? http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/harvard.html |
Anonymous
The game changed. This is not 30 years ago. Thirty years ago the population was primarily was white and black. Affirmative Action for colleges to allow black children with lower scores to be accepted was the right thing to do. Today, our country has not closed the achievement gap unfortunately still. MCPS thinks they can solve it and even they are not successful. Here is how the "college game" for race changed. The population has changed. It's now Asian scoring high, and African American and now Hispanic children too still scoring lower. The white children numbers most likely will not change. The reality is it will allow more Asian children and black and Hispanic will no longer be accepted with lower scores. Everyone is American and it's not a white vs minority issues, it's what is best for all children and actually it impacts all the minority groups. I am really torn on this issue as I see both sides. |
Anonymous
The achievement gap hasn't closed because throwing money at won't solve the issue. You could throw 100 billion at developing basketball players in china and the nba would still never have more than a handful of Chinese. I have never understood how people blindly accept racial differences below the neck but suddenly think these differences stop at the neck and everyone is the same from the neck up |
Anonymous
Do you think the NBA has always been predominantly Black? Forty years ago it was predominantly Irish. rhings do change. I do wonder with the crackdown on Chinese academic cheating if that means the Asian acceptance rate will be lower than usual this year. |
Anonymous
I always find it funny that white people bitch about Asians only caring about top scores, wanting colleges to look beyond grades and numbers. Then when other minorities get a slight admissions preference with lower scores, it's all, "but why should they get in when white kids have higher scores". - a white person |
Anonymous
+1 Like most other Trump supporters, they only want the govt to intervene when it benefits them, and nobody else. And they don't want to have to work harder than the other groups. "It's just not fair! The world is out to get them!" Pathetic. |
Anonymous
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/29/upshot/money-race-and-success-how-your-school-district-compares.html?_r=0
"Even in districts where white students and their minority classmates had similar SES backgrounds, academic gaps persisted" The achievement gap cannot be bridged by affirmative action or throwing money at schools. It goes deeper than that |
Anonymous
Lucily trump supporters seem to be dying earlier than non-trump supporters so in the long run they will cease to be a blight on humanity |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
Acceptance of Asian students from other countries is different from Acceptance rate of Asian Americans. There is a real problem of Asian Americans being discriminated against in college admissions. You again are conflating the two. And to your point, no.'oversess students don't need financial aid and pay full ride, so I don't foresee a decline in that. Money talks |
Anonymous
I graduated from one of these schools and you're right. Most of the Asian students were very wealthy kids from Hong Kong. One told me his dad paid the tuition from a small rental apartment revenue. |