Waitlist Movement Data Now Available

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love data but everyone should take this information with a grain of salt. Our WotP elementary shows that they never went to the waitlist (and zero spots were offered up in teh initial lottery) but I know for a fact that they did go to the waitlist for Kindergarten and 5th. But it's not reflected. My guess is that once the schools started managing the lists themselves, if they didn't reach back out to MySchoolDC to update the database it doesn't show.

The data only reflect offers made until October.At our EOTP dual language school, we can fill a slot in January. A WOTP school can as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love data but everyone should take this information with a grain of salt. Our WotP elementary shows that they never went to the waitlist (and zero spots were offered up in teh initial lottery) but I know for a fact that they did go to the waitlist for Kindergarten and 5th. But it's not reflected. My guess is that once the schools started managing the lists themselves, if they didn't reach back out to MySchoolDC to update the database it doesn't show.

The data only reflect offers made until October.At our EOTP dual language school, we can fill a slot in January. A WOTP school can as well.

OK. but at the school i am referring to, we invited people from the waitlist for K and 5th before count day.

[Anonymous]

This data is fine, but where's this year's data? As in, who the 39 kids accepted for PK are (IB, OOB, etc?) Would love to see that breakdown already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This data is fine, but where's this year's data? As in, who the 39 kids accepted for PK are (IB, OOB, etc?) Would love to see that breakdown already.

This info will be available end of this week or early next week.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These data are great, but they don't tell you how far down the list they went. Some people may have gotten into a higher-ranked school and dropped off of the other waitlists. So, e.g., it shows that Hearst only made 4 offers from their waitlist for PK4 last year, but they surely went beyond spot 4 -- I know someone in the top 4 initially who got into a better ranked school and was then removed from the Hearst waitlist, so they never got a call.

You can look at the original post round 1 waitlist and make some educated guesses as to who got the offers. True, it doesn't account for people who got off the list of a school they ranked higher prior to the offer from the school in question, but you can at least see if the offers went beyond siblings, IB ECE kids etc.

Agree, but I would prefer to know the original waitlist # of the person admitted than the # of offers they made.

I think they are probably considering # of offers and waitlist #s as one and the same thing. That's what I got from the "how to use this table explanation:

"Let’s say you have received your lottery results and your student is Waitlist #10 for 2nd Grade at Achievement Prep PCS. You can use the filters to select Achievement Prep PCS and 2nd Grade to see that Achievement Prep PCS made 18 offers by June for school year 15-16. While this does not mean you will definitely receive an offer for this year, you can see that someone with Waitlist #10 last year did receive an offer"

I don't think that's right. You just know they had gone at least to number 18 - they may have gone further. I don't think they are assuming they are the same thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This data is fine, but where's this year's data? As in, who the 39 kids accepted for PK are (IB, OOB, etc?) Would love to see that breakdown already.

That's going to come from DCPS
It will be here:

http://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery

[Anonymous]

Ok, what happened to the data about the original waitlist lengths? I'm sure (hoping) it's hiding in a different place - though I really wish they'd keep it all together, how hard would that be? - or maybe I'm just being dense and missing something? So you can see how far into other lists they went too - like R1 waitlist was 25 kids, they went through that by June and then offered a spot to 15 additional families. Or you can see they went 15 into a waitlist of 350.

Also, what is this Bridges "IEP Classroom" separate list??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This data is fine, but where's this year's data? As in, who the 39 kids accepted for PK are (IB, OOB, etc?) Would love to see that breakdown already.

Really wish charter schools would release similar data - they won't have IB or OOB numbers but they would have sibling preference, teacher/staff preference, etc,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok, what happened to the data about the original waitlist lengths? I'm sure (hoping) it's hiding in a different place - though I really wish they'd keep it all together, how hard would that be? - or maybe I'm just being dense and missing something? So you can see how far into other lists they went too - like R1 waitlist was 25 kids, they went through that by June and then offered a spot to 15 additional families. Or you can see they went 15 into a waitlist of 350.

Also, what is this Bridges "IEP Classroom" separate list??

I think Bridges got permission to create a SN preference. I recall it being discussed last year - perhaps this is evidence that it was implemented.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, what happened to the data about the original waitlist lengths? I'm sure (hoping) it's hiding in a different place - though I really wish they'd keep it all together, how hard would that be? - or maybe I'm just being dense and missing something? So you can see how far into other lists they went too - like R1 waitlist was 25 kids, they went through that by June and then offered a spot to 15 additional families. Or you can see they went 15 into a waitlist of 350.

Also, what is this Bridges "IEP Classroom" separate list??

I think Bridges got permission to create a SN preference. I recall it being discussed last year - perhaps this is evidence that it was implemented.

Yes - their myschooldc profile page now lists a special education preference - http://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/140/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok, what happened to the data about the original waitlist lengths? I'm sure (hoping) it's hiding in a different place - though I really wish they'd keep it all together, how hard would that be? - or maybe I'm just being dense and missing something? So you can see how far into other lists they went too - like R1 waitlist was 25 kids, they went through that by June and then offered a spot to 15 additional families. Or you can see they went 15 into a waitlist of 350.

Also, what is this Bridges "IEP Classroom" separate list??

Look further down on the My School DC data page to the helpful links - it looks like PCSB releases waitlist length and DCPS does for their schools. Probably some duplication of effort avoidance or data ownership problem, but I agree it would be better to be in one place.

https://data.dcpcsb.org/Waitlists-Spaces-Available/Wait-List-SY15-16-as-of-March-27-2015/3ibf-jtff
http://www.dcpcsb.org/blog/demand-quality-dc-public-charter-school-continues-grow-washington-dc
https://public.tableau.com/views/FINALYr2R1ResultsDashboards_3-31-15/CountsDashboard?:embed=y&:showTabs=y&:display_count=no&:toolbar=no&:showVizHome=no

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, what happened to the data about the original waitlist lengths? I'm sure (hoping) it's hiding in a different place - though I really wish they'd keep it all together, how hard would that be? - or maybe I'm just being dense and missing something? So you can see how far into other lists they went too - like R1 waitlist was 25 kids, they went through that by June and then offered a spot to 15 additional families. Or you can see they went 15 into a waitlist of 350.

Also, what is this Bridges "IEP Classroom" separate list??

I think Bridges got permission to create a SN preference. I recall it being discussed last year - perhaps this is evidence that it was implemented.

Yes - their myschooldc profile page now lists a special education preference - http://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/140/

That is awesome!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, what happened to the data about the original waitlist lengths? I'm sure (hoping) it's hiding in a different place - though I really wish they'd keep it all together, how hard would that be? - or maybe I'm just being dense and missing something? So you can see how far into other lists they went too - like R1 waitlist was 25 kids, they went through that by June and then offered a spot to 15 additional families. Or you can see they went 15 into a waitlist of 350.

Also, what is this Bridges "IEP Classroom" separate list??

Look further down on the My School DC data page to the helpful links - it looks like PCSB releases waitlist length and DCPS does for their schools. Probably some duplication of effort avoidance or data ownership problem, but I agree it would be better to be in one place.

https://data.dcpcsb.org/Waitlists-Spaces-Available/Wait-List-SY15-16-as-of-March-27-2015/3ibf-jtff
http://www.dcpcsb.org/blog/demand-quality-dc-public-charter-school-continues-grow-washington-dc
https://public.tableau.com/views/FINALYr2R1ResultsDashboards_3-31-15/CountsDashboard?:embed=y&:showTabs=y&:display_count=no&:toolbar=no&:showVizHome=no

Thanks. And thanks to the IEP classroom explainers, that's interesting and I'm curious to see how well it operates. Would be interested in the impetus for it.

[Anonymous]

Special Ed preference was established by the Council in Nov. 2014 (signed by Mayor Grey).

http://www.livebinders.com/play/play/1717352?tabid=665ed2f3-c315-cb57-d530-3337f03f63f5#anchor

DCPCSB last year published an application process for any school that wishes to offer it with guidelines on how it can be used and making schools prove they have a strong history in meeting the needs of special ed students.http://www.livebinders.com/play/play/1717352?tabid=665ed2f3-c315-cb57-d530-3337f03f63f5

The reasoning is that some schools have adopted inclusion and serving the needs of special education students as a core part of their mission but students with disabilities were being shut out of those schools in the general lottery.

I think Bridges is the only charter to offer this preference so far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Special Ed preference was established by the Council in Nov. 2014 (signed by Mayor Grey).

http://www.livebinders.com/play/play/1717352?tabid=665ed2f3-c315-cb57-d530-3337f03f63f5#anchor

DCPCSB last year published an application process for any school that wishes to offer it with guidelines on how it can be used and making schools prove they have a strong history in meeting the needs of special ed students.http://www.livebinders.com/play/play/1717352?tabid=665ed2f3-c315-cb57-d530-3337f03f63f5

The reasoning is that some schools have adopted inclusion and serving the needs of special education students as a core part of their mission but students with disabilities were being shut out of those schools in the general lottery.

I think Bridges is the only charter to offer this preference so far.

Second link http://www.dcpcsb.org/application/special-education-enrollment-preference (click into the timeline and guidelines)