Move to fly over country for job?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We did it and regretted it. I missed being able to walk places, and being surrounded by people who care about the things I care about. As a white person with kids of color, I was also STUNNED by the casual racism that folks threw around in what they perceived as all-white safe spaces. I lasted three years before I insisted we leave again.

That's why it's important for OP to post more info. The location does make a difference. Cleveland is not the same as Ann Arbor.

I've lived in both. We all know about Ann Arbor. But Cleveland is, actually, a progressive, diverse city with a great arts scene, museums, parks, medical facilities, and restaurants. The weather is not for everyone. The stupidity and provincialism on this board never cease to amaze.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Madison would be great. Milwaukee would be fine. Greenbay would be tough transition. Although Door County is lovely in the summer.

There's actually very little diversity in Madison. Milwaukee is just as progressive, and has an interesting cultural scene. I would look at one of the great neighborhoods in the city and avoid the suburbs which, yes, tend to be boring, white, and dumb.

[Anonymous]

Appleton is great!

Give it a try for a couple of years. If it's not working, move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Appleton is great!

Give it a try for a couple of years. If it's not working, move on.

Good lord.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Appleton is great!

Give it a try for a couple of years. If it's not working, move on.

Good lord.

See - religious wackos here in DC too. They're everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Appleton is great!

Give it a try for a couple of years. If it's not working, move on.

Good lord.

See - religious wackos here in DC too. They're everywhere.

Huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison would be great. Milwaukee would be fine. Greenbay would be tough transition. Although Door County is lovely in the summer.

There's actually very little diversity in Madison. Milwaukee is just as progressive, and has an interesting cultural scene. I would look at one of the great neighborhoods in the city and avoid the suburbs which, yes, tend to be boring, white, and dumb.

Regardless of where you live, you usually find what you're looking for in people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Appleton is great!

Give it a try for a couple of years. If it's not working, move on.

Good lord.

See - religious wackos here in DC too. They're everywhere.

Huh?

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, sounds like you are talking about Milwaukee. I live in the upper Midwest and also grew up in NYC. The problem I have is how insular places like Milwaukee, Detroit, St. Louis, and Cleveland are. Very few people move in and out. Most of the people grew up, went to school, and married someone locally and have never lived anywhere else. Your spouse is going to go up against people who have friends and family in the area forever. If its a 2-5 year stint, fine, anything else, not great. Cheap housing isn't the only thing in life.

I really don't give a fig what the OP does. Frankly, she sounds too stupid ("cheddar is not mu forte," really?) and small minded for "flyover country. But, I just had to comment because I am so sick of the lies, half-truths, and intellectually lazy assumptions made by people on this board about Milwaukee and other cities like it. I don't know where in the "upper Midwest" this PP lives, but they don't know sh*t about Milwaukee. I grew up there and lived there for 30 years. It is a major city with more Fortune 500 companies relative to its size than San Francisco and a lot of other cities that DCUMers spooge over. It has a sizeable banking sector, major national law and investment firms, and it is an international hub for water and other environmental technologies. As a result, people from all over the country and the world live in Milwaukee. I actually worked at a major law firm there, and most of the people were not originally from Milwaukee. They were from all over the country (even NYC), and the one thing they all agreed on was how great of a place Milwaukee is to live. Yes, a lot of people who are originally from Milwaukee stay, but they stay because it is a great place to raise a family, it has a low cost of living, and it has great restaurants, a wonderful arts and music scene, endless recreational activities, fantastic architecture, and it is on a beautiful lake. No one leaves because who would want to? And those that do usually come back (I personally can't wait to do just that!). But I want to emphasize that these same qualities that keep native Milwaukeeans in Milwaukee has also increasingly attracted other people from other parts of the country and the world. And Milwaukeeans are very welcoming to them, despite what this idiot PP says. And, last of all, Milwaukee is very diverse, it has been majority minority for some time now, so all of the posters out there who are trying to suggest that it is a bastion of whiteness are either to lazy or don't have the brainpower to access Wikipedia.

[Anonymous]

That's nice. OP said Green Bay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, sounds like you are talking about Milwaukee. I live in the upper Midwest and also grew up in NYC. The problem I have is how insular places like Milwaukee, Detroit, St. Louis, and Cleveland are. Very few people move in and out. Most of the people grew up, went to school, and married someone locally and have never lived anywhere else. Your spouse is going to go up against people who have friends and family in the area forever. If its a 2-5 year stint, fine, anything else, not great. Cheap housing isn't the only thing in life.

I really don't give a fig what the OP does. Frankly, she sounds too stupid ("cheddar is not mu forte," really?) and small minded for "flyover country. But, I just had to comment because I am so sick of the lies, half-truths, and intellectually lazy assumptions made by people on this board about Milwaukee and other cities like it. I don't know where in the "upper Midwest" this PP lives, but they don't know sh*t about Milwaukee. I grew up there and lived there for 30 years. It is a major city with more Fortune 500 companies relative to its size than San Francisco and a lot of other cities that DCUMers spooge over. It has a sizeable banking sector, major national law and investment firms, and it is an international hub for water and other environmental technologies. As a result, people from all over the country and the world live in Milwaukee. I actually worked at a major law firm there, and most of the people were not originally from Milwaukee. They were from all over the country (even NYC), and the one thing they all agreed on was how great of a place Milwaukee is to live. Yes, a lot of people who are originally from Milwaukee stay, but they stay because it is a great place to raise a family, it has a low cost of living, and it has great restaurants, a wonderful arts and music scene, endless recreational activities, fantastic architecture, and it is on a beautiful lake. No one leaves because who would want to? And those that do usually come back (I personally can't wait to do just that!). But I want to emphasize that these same qualities that keep native Milwaukeeans in Milwaukee has also increasingly attracted other people from other parts of the country and the world. And Milwaukeeans are very welcoming to them, despite what this idiot PP says. And, last of all, Milwaukee is very diverse, it has been majority minority for some time now, so all of the posters out there who are trying to suggest that it is a bastion of whiteness are either to lazy or don't have the brainpower to access Wikipedia.

Sorry, I meant "too lazy."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's nice. OP said Green Bay.

Yes, but some other idiot PP was dissing Milwaukee. I have to stand up for my hometown!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison would be great. Milwaukee would be fine. Greenbay would be tough transition. Although Door County is lovely in the summer.

There's actually very little diversity in Madison. Milwaukee is just as progressive, and has an interesting cultural scene. I would look at one of the great neighborhoods in the city and avoid the suburbs which, yes, tend to be boring, white, and dumb.

Amen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Madison would be great. Milwaukee would be fine. Greenbay would be tough transition. Although Door County is lovely in the summer.

I agree. Madison is a great place to live. Milwaukee would also be fine, there's a good art museum, it's close to Chicago, it's pretty diverse. Green Bay would be tough, as would Sheboygan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Housing is cheap there for a reason. If you don't like talking about sport, your church, hunting, or small talk then you will hate it.

And you know this how? Have you actually talked to anyone outside of your DMV bubble? Such experts about the Midwest on here from people who likely have never been there! Besides, who wouldn't rather talk about sports than school pyramids, FARMS numbers, and HHI? No one I would want to know!