Move to fly over country for job?

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Anonymous wrote:Madison would be great. Milwaukee would be fine. Greenbay would be tough transition. Although Door County is lovely in the summer.

Madison is not really Wisconsin like Ann Arbor is not really Michigan. These are liberal, academic enclave towns.

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Unless you felt like a fish out of water in NYC I would predict a bumpy transition.

There are lots of folks who have lived all over the place reading posts like yours; if you could name the location you're considering you may find more specific helpful advice.

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I don't know OP--it's not near a university and the nearest place to practice your religion is 2 hours away. If you know this job will have time limits, then it may be worth going for, if you want to go to the next level and you think you can.

I would not do this unless I had some quantifiable goals other than "dream job" --ie we're going to save x amount of money in 2 years, use y amount of money to do things to help our moods once there, and you plan to stay there z amount of time.

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Anonymous wrote:Madison would be great. Milwaukee would be fine. Greenbay would be tough transition. Although Door County is lovely in the summer.

Madison is not really Wisconsin like Ann Arbor is not really Michigan. These are liberal, academic enclave towns.

I lived in Shorewood, WI, eastern suburb of Milwaukee and it was filled with academic liberal types. That whole area of MKE is great- liberal, educated, but much more friendly than the DC area, and the houses/town are much more charming than what we have here. And the schools are top notch. I'd move back there in a heartbeat! So much to do in Milwaukee and you're so close to Chicago, too.

(Weather is a downside, though..)

OP, you need to tell us where you'd actually be moving!

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Anonymous wrote:Unless you felt like a fish out of water in NYC I would predict a bumpy transition.

There are lots of folks who have lived all over the place reading posts like yours; if you could name the location you're considering you may find more specific helpful advice.

That is an inaccurate statement and an ignorant "generality".

I was born and raised in DC, and have always loved NYC specifically because of the hustle and bustle. Then DH got a job in one of those "flyover cities" that everyone around here loves to hate... ....and not only was the transition very easy but we acclimated very quickly and fell in love with the place. We made great friends, life was slower, our money went much further and our taxes were way lower. Than DH got a big promotion with that same company that required a move back to DC. At first we thought it would be easy to come back because it was so familiar to us, and its where we were from, friends and family there etc. Wrong answer. We lasted 2 years in DC after our 5 year stint in that "flyover city" because we got a taste of what it was like to live in such a wonderful, calm and inviting place. After 2 years we sold the DC house, changed jobs and moved back.

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I did this, OP. I also fall into the "diversity" category and am liberal. It's not awful, but it has its moments (like when one of my coworkers felt the need to tell me that his doctor, who is of the same ethnicity as me, could speak English without an accent, and isn't that amazing??). But I can also buy a nice house in the best school district here in flyover, which was never going to happen for me in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless you felt like a fish out of water in NYC I would predict a bumpy transition.

There are lots of folks who have lived all over the place reading posts like yours; if you could name the location you're considering you may find more specific helpful advice.

That is an inaccurate statement and an ignorant "generality".

I was born and raised in DC, and have always loved NYC specifically because of the hustle and bustle. Then DH got a job in one of those "flyover cities" that everyone around here loves to hate... ....and not only was the transition very easy but we acclimated very quickly and fell in love with the place. We made great friends, life was slower, our money went much further and our taxes were way lower. Than DH got a big promotion with that same company that required a move back to DC. At first we thought it would be easy to come back because it was so familiar to us, and its where we were from, friends and family there etc. Wrong answer. We lasted 2 years in DC after our 5 year stint in that "flyover city" because we got a taste of what it was like to live in such a wonderful, calm and inviting place. After 2 years we sold the DC house, changed jobs and moved back.

Speaking of ignorant, "I would predict a bumpy transition" is speculation about something specific that hasn't happened yet, therefore can't be an inaccurate statement and is not a generality.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless you felt like a fish out of water in NYC I would predict a bumpy transition.

There are lots of folks who have lived all over the place reading posts like yours; if you could name the location you're considering you may find more specific helpful advice.

That is an inaccurate statement and an ignorant "generality".

I was born and raised in DC, and have always loved NYC specifically because of the hustle and bustle. Then DH got a job in one of those "flyover cities" that everyone around here loves to hate... ....and not only was the transition very easy but we acclimated very quickly and fell in love with the place. We made great friends, life was slower, our money went much further and our taxes were way lower. Than DH got a big promotion with that same company that required a move back to DC. At first we thought it would be easy to come back because it was so familiar to us, and its where we were from, friends and family there etc. Wrong answer. We lasted 2 years in DC after our 5 year stint in that "flyover city" because we got a taste of what it was like to live in such a wonderful, calm and inviting place. After 2 years we sold the DC house, changed jobs and moved back.

Are you a minority living in a place where there are few or no other minorities? Do you have to travel two hours to find a community that practices your religion?

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Sounds like Wisconsin or something. I wouldn't do it for myself, because I feel "stuck/stranded" when I'm not on a coast. If I were you, I double-y (is that even a word?) wouldn't do it. Even if YOU are comfortable being the minority, you're going to make your kids be the minority as well, and while yes, thousands and thousands of kids grow up that way but it doesn't mean they should have to.

I am perfectly comfortable living here but if it were a financial struggle I'd sooner downsize and economize rather than move to some bland area where I'd have a big house and small-minded friends who looked just like me, but were conservative (I'm super liberal).

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like Wisconsin or something. I wouldn't do it for myself, because I feel "stuck/stranded" when I'm not on a coast. If I were you, I double-y (is that even a word?) wouldn't do it. Even if YOU are comfortable being the minority, you're going to make your kids be the minority as well, and while yes, thousands and thousands of kids grow up that way but it doesn't mean they should have to.

I am perfectly comfortable living here but if it were a financial struggle I'd sooner downsize and economize rather than move to some bland area where I'd have a big house and small-minded friends who looked just like me, but were conservative (I'm super liberal).

You are a pseudo-intellectual, elitist, snob. The only difference between you and Ted Cruz's wife is she doesn't pretend to be something she's not.

OP - Plenty if useful help is available. But "flyover" is a large area. If you can give a state, a lot more productive advice is available.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless you felt like a fish out of water in NYC I would predict a bumpy transition.

There are lots of folks who have lived all over the place reading posts like yours; if you could name the location you're considering you may find more specific helpful advice.

That is an inaccurate statement and an ignorant "generality".

I was born and raised in DC, and have always loved NYC specifically because of the hustle and bustle. Then DH got a job in one of those "flyover cities" that everyone around here loves to hate... ....and not only was the transition very easy but we acclimated very quickly and fell in love with the place. We made great friends, life was slower, our money went much further and our taxes were way lower. Than DH got a big promotion with that same company that required a move back to DC. At first we thought it would be easy to come back because it was so familiar to us, and its where we were from, friends and family there etc. Wrong answer. We lasted 2 years in DC after our 5 year stint in that "flyover city" because we got a taste of what it was like to live in such a wonderful, calm and inviting place. After 2 years we sold the DC house, changed jobs and moved back.

+1 much rather hang out with my Wisconsin friends than rail thin NWDC lawyer mom agonizing over whether Sidwell or GDS would be more likely to get her snowflake into Harvard...

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Op - Greenbay. Sorry I should have wrote that.

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I am sure that others who have actually lived in Green Bay will chime in but Green Bay is not a bad place. And despite the prevailing belief amongst the DC crowd, is remarkably accepting of others. Which is why you find the largest concentration of Arab Muslims outside of the Middle East in Detroit and why there is such a huge population of Somalis in Minneapolis.

A key question seems how important to you is having common religious culture and heritage right next door? Only you can answer that. Otherwise I think you will find the people to be generally warm.

And remember this isn't a life sentence.

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What religion are you OP?

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Housing is cheap there for a reason. If you don't like talking about sport, your church, hunting, or small talk then you will hate it.