Going rate for teen shoveling?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So wait... we can't charge the elderly for anything now? I get that they may be on fixed incomes, etc but if someone does a physically demanding job, they should be paid. PP who is saying that the elderly shouldn't pay because you want someone to help your grandparents, really? They should pay as well. Now, if I shovel walks and I charge $50 per, I would probably give elderly neighbors a *discount* and only charge like $20, but free? How is a kid (or adult) in a neighborhood of elderly people supposed to make a buck?

My MIL has less than $1000 a month (plus food stamps). I would be pissed if someone charged her when every dollar counts. We aren't interested in making a buck if it means taking away from someone else who needs it more. Karma - you do for them and hopefully someone will do for you. We always shovel out one neighbor. She'll leave cookies or something else but there is no way we'd take money or allow her to give our child money.

No one is required to have someone else shovel them out at a set price. Your MIL is welcome to wait around for someone to do it for free.

If you are a senior and can't afford to shovel yourself out and no one is offering, call 311. There are organizations that help out LOW INCOME seniors and disabled. Well-off seniors and disabled (and yes, our area has both those) should be willing to pay the market rate and be grateful if they are offered a discount, but not expect one.

You are teaching your kids great values. Hope someone treats you better than you treat people if you ever need help. Most of those organizations could not get to anyone who needs the help. Its sad that we live in a world where people have your attitude. Its not that hard to be decent and help. They shouldn't even have to ask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So wait... we can't charge the elderly for anything now? I get that they may be on fixed incomes, etc but if someone does a physically demanding job, they should be paid. PP who is saying that the elderly shouldn't pay because you want someone to help your grandparents, really? They should pay as well. Now, if I shovel walks and I charge $50 per, I would probably give elderly neighbors a *discount* and only charge like $20, but free? How is a kid (or adult) in a neighborhood of elderly people supposed to make a buck?

My MIL has less than $1000 a month (plus food stamps). I would be pissed if someone charged her when every dollar counts. We aren't interested in making a buck if it means taking away from someone else who needs it more. Karma - you do for them and hopefully someone will do for you. We always shovel out one neighbor. She'll leave cookies or something else but there is no way we'd take money or allow her to give our child money.

No one is required to have someone else shovel them out at a set price. Your MIL is welcome to wait around for someone to do it for free.

If you are a senior and can't afford to shovel yourself out and no one is offering, call 311. There are organizations that help out LOW INCOME seniors and disabled. Well-off seniors and disabled (and yes, our area has both those) should be willing to pay the market rate and be grateful if they are offered a discount, but not expect one.

You are teaching your kids great values. Hope someone treats you better than you treat people if you ever need help. Most of those organizations could not get to anyone who needs the help. Its sad that we live in a world where people have your attitude. Its not that hard to be decent and help. They shouldn't even have to ask.

I completely believe in KARMA.

I do NOT believe in charging seniors. How the heck do you know WHO is "well off" and who is not????

How is this *any better* than a guy who tries to scam people by shoveling, unsolicited; then naming his price, when he knocks on an unsuspecting residents door? BS.

While it is not the same thing ( and I am not trying to say it is) - it is NO BETTER.

Jesus, what's next? Stealing children's toys "because they have more than you"?

Get a grip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So wait... we can't charge the elderly for anything now? I get that they may be on fixed incomes, etc but if someone does a physically demanding job, they should be paid. PP who is saying that the elderly shouldn't pay because you want someone to help your grandparents, really? They should pay as well. Now, if I shovel walks and I charge $50 per, I would probably give elderly neighbors a *discount* and only charge like $20, but free? How is a kid (or adult) in a neighborhood of elderly people supposed to make a buck?

My MIL has less than $1000 a month (plus food stamps). I would be pissed if someone charged her when every dollar counts. We aren't interested in making a buck if it means taking away from someone else who needs it more. Karma - you do for them and hopefully someone will do for you. We always shovel out one neighbor. She'll leave cookies or something else but there is no way we'd take money or allow her to give our child money.

No one is required to have someone else shovel them out at a set price. Your MIL is welcome to wait around for someone to do it for free.

If you are a senior and can't afford to shovel yourself out and no one is offering, call 311. There are organizations that help out LOW INCOME seniors and disabled. Well-off seniors and disabled (and yes, our area has both those) should be willing to pay the market rate and be grateful if they are offered a discount, but not expect one.

You are teaching your kids great values. Hope someone treats you better than you treat people if you ever need help. Most of those organizations could not get to anyone who needs the help. Its sad that we live in a world where people have your attitude. Its not that hard to be decent and help. They shouldn't even have to ask.

+1

[Anonymous]

I can't believe how greedy grown adults are. If you want to teach your kids how to make money "off the rich" - you better reconsider. People do not get rich by *giving their money away* to beggars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So wait... we can't charge the elderly for anything now? I get that they may be on fixed incomes, etc but if someone does a physically demanding job, they should be paid. PP who is saying that the elderly shouldn't pay because you want someone to help your grandparents, really? They should pay as well. Now, if I shovel walks and I charge $50 per, I would probably give elderly neighbors a *discount* and only charge like $20, but free? How is a kid (or adult) in a neighborhood of elderly people supposed to make a buck?

My MIL has less than $1000 a month (plus food stamps). I would be pissed if someone charged her when every dollar counts. We aren't interested in making a buck if it means taking away from someone else who needs it more. Karma - you do for them and hopefully someone will do for you. We always shovel out one neighbor. She'll leave cookies or something else but there is no way we'd take money or allow her to give our child money.

No one is required to have someone else shovel them out at a set price. Your MIL is welcome to wait around for someone to do it for free.

If you are a senior and can't afford to shovel yourself out and no one is offering, call 311. There are organizations that help out LOW INCOME seniors and disabled. Well-off seniors and disabled (and yes, our area has both those) should be willing to pay the market rate and be grateful if they are offered a discount, but not expect one.

You are teaching your kids great values. Hope someone treats you better than you treat people if you ever need help. Most of those organizations could not get to anyone who needs the help. Its sad that we live in a world where people have your attitude. Its not that hard to be decent and help. They shouldn't even have to ask.

+1

Same people protesting charging the middle class seniors in their neighborhood for a service they can turn down likely voted to reduce federal and state spending on higher education so that teen boys don't have to shovel snow all day to make college even a possibility. No one forces you to purchase snow shoveling PERIOD, let alone from a pair of boys that you think are rude for trying to fund their educations. Just decline the discounted rate and wait for all the free assistance from the teen sons that all these DCUMers are raising right.

[Anonymous]

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I can't believe how greedy grown adults are. If you want to teach your kids how to make money "off the rich" - you better reconsider. People do not get rich by *giving their money away* to beggars.

Wtf does this post have to do with this thread?

[Anonymous]

Thank you to those posters who gave helpful answers, particularly auntie and the few posts early on in this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For illegals it's $60-$80. Lawn companies are charging $80/hr with 2 hour minimum. He should charge at least $40, if not more.

For illegals?!?!?!?!? I think some people consider them human beings, maybe not in the suburb hellscape where you live. I hope your power goes out tonight.

What does being an illegal alien have to do with being a human being?

They're not illegal people you idiot.

And I still hope you lose power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For illegals it's $60-$80. Lawn companies are charging $80/hr with 2 hour minimum. He should charge at least $40, if not more.

For illegals?!?!?!?!? I think some people consider them human beings, maybe not in the suburb hellscape where you live. I hope your power goes out tonight.

What does being an illegal alien have to do with being a human being?

They're not illegal people you idiot.

And I still hope you lose power.

What is your problem? That's the description our government uses.

[Anonymous]

Sorry but no. My family is struggling financially as well. My dh and I are going out to shovel snow for some extra $$. I will give discounts to elderly neighbors that we have know for a while, but definitely not free.

To the person with the mil on fixed income... Why should other people give her free services just because she is low income? I bet you are the same people thinking that the working poor are just lazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but no. My family is struggling financially as well. My dh and I are going out to shovel snow for some extra $$. I will give discounts to elderly neighbors that we have know for a while, but definitely not free.

To the person with the mil on fixed income... Why should other people give her free services just because she is low income? I bet you are the same people thinking that the working poor are just lazy.

We help shovel out our neighbors and I would hope someone would do the same for our family, when they need help. That is the point. Technically it has nothing to do about low income but treating someone like you would want to be treated in their situation. We know who needs the help. We do not wait for them to ask. As soon as we are done with ours, we walk over, do it, no strings attached. When you go ask, even for a "discount" you don't know if someone is choosing between food and paying you. I tell my MIL to leave it and we'll do it as soon as we can get to her if no one else helps. But, you would not know she is poor because I keep her well dressed and we try our best for her.

Its not about being lazy, its about being greedy and taking advantage of someone at a time of need. The right thing to do is pitch in and be a community that cares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So wait... we can't charge the elderly for anything now? I get that they may be on fixed incomes, etc but if someone does a physically demanding job, they should be paid. PP who is saying that the elderly shouldn't pay because you want someone to help your grandparents, really? They should pay as well. Now, if I shovel walks and I charge $50 per, I would probably give elderly neighbors a *discount* and only charge like $20, but free? How is a kid (or adult) in a neighborhood of elderly people supposed to make a buck?

My MIL has less than $1000 a month (plus food stamps). I would be pissed if someone charged her when every dollar counts. We aren't interested in making a buck if it means taking away from someone else who needs it more. Karma - you do for them and hopefully someone will do for you. We always shovel out one neighbor. She'll leave cookies or something else but there is no way we'd take money or allow her to give our child money.

No one is required to have someone else shovel them out at a set price. Your MIL is welcome to wait around for someone to do it for free.

If you are a senior and can't afford to shovel yourself out and no one is offering, call 311. There are organizations that help out LOW INCOME seniors and disabled. Well-off seniors and disabled (and yes, our area has both those) should be willing to pay the market rate and be grateful if they are offered a discount, but not expect one.

You are teaching your kids great values. Hope someone treats you better than you treat people if you ever need help. Most of those organizations could not get to anyone who needs the help. Its sad that we live in a world where people have your attitude. Its not that hard to be decent and help. They shouldn't even have to ask.

+1

Same people protesting charging the middle class seniors in their neighborhood for a service they can turn down likely voted to reduce federal and state spending on higher education so that teen boys don't have to shovel snow all day to make college even a possibility. No one forces you to purchase snow shoveling PERIOD, let alone from a pair of boys that you think are rude for trying to fund their educations. Just decline the discounted rate and wait for all the free assistance from the teen sons that all these DCUMers are raising right.

No one owes you an education after high school. You are either blessed with family who pays, take out loans or work your way through it. No one gave my husband anything and instead of begging and taking advantage of people, he joined the military and eventually got his degree through their tuition benefits. It was a lot of hard work on his part. Its sad we do not teach our kids to look after others, but instead take advantage of them in a desperate time. Teach your boys to be men and be a part of the community. If my young child can pitch in and help, so you teen boys who are physically able. If you cannot tell your son (or daughter) to help your 80 year old neighbor, there is something wrong with you, your parenting or your child (and at that age they should know without being told).

[Anonymous]

It took me 1.5 hours to shovel out my driveway. I think it's reasonable for a kid to ask for $25-$50. Kids can make a decent amount of money today for a little hard work!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For illegals it's $60-$80. Lawn companies are charging $80/hr with 2 hour minimum. He should charge at least $40, if not more.

For illegals?!?!?!?!? I think some people consider them human beings, maybe not in the suburb hellscape where you live. I hope your power goes out tonight.

It should have read, human beings in this country illegally! Laws should NOT be broken, no matter now progressive you want to be. Hope you like your million plus tiny row house with crappy schools-hope the illegals overcharge to to dig out and then steal your shovel after you pay them!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but no. My family is struggling financially as well. My dh and I are going out to shovel snow for some extra $$. I will give discounts to elderly neighbors that we have know for a while, but definitely not free.

To the person with the mil on fixed income... Why should other people give her free services just because she is low income? I bet you are the same people thinking that the working poor are just lazy.

We help shovel out our neighbors and I would hope someone would do the same for our family, when they need help. That is the point. Technically it has nothing to do about low income but treating someone like you would want to be treated in their situation. We know who needs the help. We do not wait for them to ask. As soon as we are done with ours, we walk over, do it, no strings attached. When you go ask, even for a "discount" you don't know if someone is choosing between food and paying you. I tell my MIL to leave it and we'll do it as soon as we can get to her if no one else helps. But, you would not know she is poor because I keep her well dressed and we try our best for her.

Its not about being lazy, its about being greedy and taking advantage of someone at a time of need. The right thing to do is pitch in and be a community that cares.

Why do you keep saying it's about "treating others as you want to be treated"? If I had someone come to my door and shovel my snow, I would expect to pay them for their time and work.

Now, in a smaller snow, 4" or so, yes you can do it for free but 2 feet of snow? Get real.