does this sound like regressive autism? is it time to seek another ASD evaluation?

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Anonymous wrote:Op does even know what regressive ASD looks like. Her child was evaluated 8 month ago.

See a neurologist if you must for the spacing out. I would forget about autism.


Neurologist?!? You don't even know what kind of doctor to see. You see a neurologist for neurological issues like CP not developmental issues like autism.

NP here. You see a neurologist for neurological issues like absence seizures, which my daughter has. It looks like she's spacing out and doesn't respond to her name. Yes, neurologist. No need to be nasty.


Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I Should have read OP's other thread where she describes the the same exact problems but without the tilt toward autism. It does not sound like ASD at all... And OP sounds anxious and is focusing on ASD when she should follow the same advice she got on her original thread and check for seizures.

The other thread was posted two days ago.
Anonymous
Seizures are much more common in kids with autism than the general population.

http://blog.autismspeaks.org/2011/08/05/how-common-are-seizures-among-people-with-autism-and-what-can-help/
Anonymous
OP, if you suspect your child is having seizures than you need to contact your pediatrician ASAP. They will refer you to a specialist.

It is also estimated that as many as 1/3 of people with ASD also have seizures.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/30/connection-between-autism-and-epilepsy_n_5419003.html

Combined with the problematics behaviors, you should call back KKI and go back for another evaluation.
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Anonymous wrote:The only thing that sounds remotely concerning is the not responding to his name. Otherwise, it seems age appropriate to have a favorite toy, especially since it sounds like he's playing with it appropriately.

How are his interactions with peers? His expressive and receptive language?


OP here. He understands everything, speaks well, has big vocabulary, great articulation, etc. but his speech is not quite conversational. For example, I will ask, "how was school today?" he might respond, "it was great mom." if I follow up with "what did you do?" I hear crickets. He is able to tell us when he's mad, or frustrated, etc. sometimes before a tantrum, sometimes after.

Most of his time around other children is at daycare, but as far as I know, his peer interactions are fine. He has a best friend at daycare that he loves and gets very excited to see outside of daycare on the rare occasion, but beyond that, has few consistent play dates. On the playground, he always seek out and find one kid that he will follow around and imitate. BUT, he's known to be pushy and territorial sometimes too, say, when we visit the train display at our local bookstore.

I forgot to mention in my original post that he often repeats phrases he hears from his favorite cartoons. Sometimes we'll ask him where he heard [whatever statement he made] and he will tell us which cartoon.


Oh gosh, OP. Listen to his daycare teachers. Because NOTHING in this post says anything remotely concerning for a 3 year old. I think the problem is that you're uncertain of how kids his age behave. Please take heed of the PPs suggestions about asking more specific questions, ie, "did you play outside today? Did you play on the slide? What did you do next? Did you get to do songs today?" (but don't pepper him with questions). A LOT of us would love for our 3yo kids to tell us all about their day, but it's just not gonna happen with most preschoolers. Google it!

My son had a language delay very young. By age 3 he was caught up and well advanced of his peers. He repeats phrases from tv all the time, and never once did a ST have any concern. Repeating things from cartoons is NOT a symptom of a language disorder (as suggested by a pp). That's ridiculous. Kids have been repeating things they hear on tv since the dawn of TV.

I also want to point out that being "obsessed" with one type of toy isn't unusual at all. Why do you think toy manufacturers make a bazillion types of toy cars and trucks? Because little kids, especially boys, love them.

Please lay off.

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Anonymous wrote:You posted before. Please get him checked out for seizures. Other than that none of what you are noting sounds like and ASD. And ASD is a deficit in social communication skills that causes at least significant interferes with functioning. You already had one complete evaluation that cleared him. But there are types of epilepsy that can look like regressive autism.


Not OP, but what kind of doctor do you see for possible seizures. Where do you recommend going?


I would take a video and go to the pediatrician.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only thing that sounds remotely concerning is the not responding to his name. Otherwise, it seems age appropriate to have a favorite toy, especially since it sounds like he's playing with it appropriately.

How are his interactions with peers? His expressive and receptive language?


OP here. He understands everything, speaks well, has big vocabulary, great articulation, etc. but his speech is not quite conversational. For example, I will ask, "how was school today?" he might respond, "it was great mom." if I follow up with "what did you do?" I hear crickets. He is able to tell us when he's mad, or frustrated, etc. sometimes before a tantrum, sometimes after.

Most of his time around other children is at daycare, but as far as I know, his peer interactions are fine. He has a best friend at daycare that he loves and gets very excited to see outside of daycare on the rare occasion, but beyond that, has few consistent play dates. On the playground, he always seek out and find one kid that he will follow around and imitate. BUT, he's known to be pushy and territorial sometimes too, say, when we visit the train display at our local bookstore.

I forgot to mention in my original post that he often repeats phrases he hears from his favorite cartoons. Sometimes we'll ask him where he heard [whatever statement he made] and he will tell us which cartoon.


That sounds like an expressive language disorder and/or receptive.

His behavior sounds pretty normal for his age. His language does not. I'd have him evaluated by a speech clinic and see what they say.


I don't think so. He is 3.5. Most of them quote their favorite shows and have a hard time responding to open ended questions like that.


Most 3-4 year olds can say something that they did at school that day. If they don't remember, they'll make it up. An inability to say one thing that happened at school is absolutely a warning sign for a language disorder.
Here is a helpful milestone chart that shows you what a 3-4 year old should do: http://www.asha.org/public/speech/development/34/

Excessive repetition of phrases from TV shows is also a symptom of a language disorder and/or ASD.
http://lessonplans.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/15/it-bears-repeating/?_r=0

Do you have a kid with a SN? If you don't, please get off the forum. You don't know what you're talking about and you aren't helpful.


Omg. My kid with definitely no language delay clams up if we ask him for details about what he did at school. It is called "threenager" for a reason.
Anonymous
Is it mentor does his kid sound completely normal? When I ask my car-obsessed three-year old what he did at school, without fail I get "I don't want to talk about school." Thanks buddy. But seriously, my kid is totally normal and it sounds like yours is too.
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Anonymous wrote:Is it mentor does his kid sound completely normal? When I ask my car-obsessed three-year old what he did at school, without fail I get "I don't want to talk about school." Thanks buddy. But seriously, my kid is totally normal and it sounds like yours is too.


That was supposed to be "is it me or"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only thing that sounds remotely concerning is the not responding to his name. Otherwise, it seems age appropriate to have a favorite toy, especially since it sounds like he's playing with it appropriately.

How are his interactions with peers? His expressive and receptive language?


OP here. He understands everything, speaks well, has big vocabulary, great articulation, etc. but his speech is not quite conversational. For example, I will ask, "how was school today?" he might respond, "it was great mom." if I follow up with "what did you do?" I hear crickets. He is able to tell us when he's mad, or frustrated, etc. sometimes before a tantrum, sometimes after.

Most of his time around other children is at daycare, but as far as I know, his peer interactions are fine. He has a best friend at daycare that he loves and gets very excited to see outside of daycare on the rare occasion, but beyond that, has few consistent play dates. On the playground, he always seek out and find one kid that he will follow around and imitate. BUT, he's known to be pushy and territorial sometimes too, say, when we visit the train display at our local bookstore.

I forgot to mention in my original post that he often repeats phrases he hears from his favorite cartoons. Sometimes we'll ask him where he heard [whatever statement he made] and he will tell us which cartoon.


Oh gosh, OP. Listen to his daycare teachers. Because NOTHING in this post says anything remotely concerning for a 3 year old. I think the problem is that you're uncertain of how kids his age behave. Please take heed of the PPs suggestions about asking more specific questions, ie, "did you play outside today? Did you play on the slide? What did you do next? Did you get to do songs today?" (but don't pepper him with questions). A LOT of us would love for our 3yo kids to tell us all about their day, but it's just not gonna happen with most preschoolers. Google it!

My son had a language delay very young. By age 3 he was caught up and well advanced of his peers. He repeats phrases from tv all the time, and never once did a ST have any concern. Repeating things from cartoons is NOT a symptom of a language disorder (as suggested by a pp). That's ridiculous. Kids have been repeating things they hear on tv since the dawn of TV.

I also want to point out that being "obsessed" with one type of toy isn't unusual at all. Why do you think toy manufacturers make a bazillion types of toy cars and trucks? Because little kids, especially boys, love them.

Please lay off.



PP, you are a beyond ignorant. If your kid had a delay and caught up by 3, lucky you.

Obsessions and repeating phrases are a sign of autism. It's a well established fact.

No one can diagnose the OP's kid over the internet, but you are truly out of your depth.
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Anonymous wrote:Is it mentor does his kid sound completely normal? When I ask my car-obsessed three-year old what he did at school, without fail I get "I don't want to talk about school." Thanks buddy. But seriously, my kid is totally normal and it sounds like yours is too.


Do you have a kid with SNs?
Anonymous
I don't have a SN child so I will be booed off this forum, but dear OP, this sounds exactly like my totally neurotypical DC at the age of 3. As a matter of fact, he also went through a prolonged phase when I actually had his hearing checked, thinking he cannot hear me. I would say his name and get zero reaction. Turns out he had discovered for himself that he does not HAVE to react when he doesn't feel like it (after all, mom is bound to say something silly, such as come eat your dinner or what did you do at school or will you stop banging your toys together).
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OP, I am sorry you are concerned. My son had regressive autism. He was speaking, interacting etc and then quit. I understand your concerns.

However, if the teachers are not experiencing any issues and are not seeing anything, don't get yourself too worked up.

As far as not responding, what is your child doing when he doesn't respond. Is he engaged in an electronic, playing and there is other noise in the room? If I want my child to respond to me, I make all other noise stop and then speak to my child.

In regarding to not responding about school day, I read an article earlier this year (not sure where but I will try to find it) that was for parents of neuro-typical kids and it recommended asking specific questions about your child's day. Example: "Who did you play with on the playground", "what did you and johnny do, run or swings" and then build on those direct questions. Open questions are difficult for kids especially at the end of the day. Heck, sometimes they are hard for us adults at the end of a long day.

Also, think about what you would do if your child did get an autism diagnosis... would you try a holistic approach (diet changes etc) and therapies.. you can always do the holistic stuff yourself with or without a diagnosis.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only thing that sounds remotely concerning is the not responding to his name. Otherwise, it seems age appropriate to have a favorite toy, especially since it sounds like he's playing with it appropriately.

How are his interactions with peers? His expressive and receptive language?


OP here. He understands everything, speaks well, has big vocabulary, great articulation, etc. but his speech is not quite conversational. For example, I will ask, "how was school today?" he might respond, "it was great mom." if I follow up with "what did you do?" I hear crickets. He is able to tell us when he's mad, or frustrated, etc. sometimes before a tantrum, sometimes after.

Most of his time around other children is at daycare, but as far as I know, his peer interactions are fine. He has a best friend at daycare that he loves and gets very excited to see outside of daycare on the rare occasion, but beyond that, has few consistent play dates. On the playground, he always seek out and find one kid that he will follow around and imitate. BUT, he's known to be pushy and territorial sometimes too, say, when we visit the train display at our local bookstore.

I forgot to mention in my original post that he often repeats phrases he hears from his favorite cartoons. Sometimes we'll ask him where he heard [whatever statement he made] and he will tell us which cartoon.


Oh gosh, OP. Listen to his daycare teachers. Because NOTHING in this post says anything remotely concerning for a 3 year old. I think the problem is that you're uncertain of how kids his age behave. Please take heed of the PPs suggestions about asking more specific questions, ie, "did you play outside today? Did you play on the slide? What did you do next? Did you get to do songs today?" (but don't pepper him with questions). A LOT of us would love for our 3yo kids to tell us all about their day, but it's just not gonna happen with most preschoolers. Google it!

My son had a language delay very young. By age 3 he was caught up and well advanced of his peers. He repeats phrases from tv all the time, and never once did a ST have any concern. Repeating things from cartoons is NOT a symptom of a language disorder (as suggested by a pp). That's ridiculous. Kids have been repeating things they hear on tv since the dawn of TV.

I also want to point out that being "obsessed" with one type of toy isn't unusual at all. Why do you think toy manufacturers make a bazillion types of toy cars and trucks? Because little kids, especially boys, love them.

Please lay off.



PP, you are a beyond ignorant. If your kid had a delay and caught up by 3, lucky you.

Obsessions and repeating phrases are a sign of autism. It's a well established fact.

No one can diagnose the OP's kid over the internet, but you are truly out of your depth.


Op, just please be aware that it is a well established fact that most kids repeat phrases from tv shows. It doesn't always mean autism. The reason I pointed out that my son had a delay is to point out that his speech therapists never ever indicated that repeating wgat he sees on tv is a problem. And what you are explaining doesn't sound like an obsession to me.
Anonymous
OP, what caused you to have the eval 8 months ago in the first place?

Like several others have said, nothing in your description of your son raises any red flags at all.
And yes, I have a son with a very significant speech delay. At 3, I would have given my eye teeth for him to tell me "it was great mom" when I asked about school.
I also have a 3 year old daughter who is very ahead verbally. She still isn't going to give me lots of info with a "what did you do?" Sometimes I'll get paragraphs upon paragraphs about her day (which is VERY unusual for a 3 year old!) and other times I'll get crickets or, at most, a one word answer.

I think your expectations of 3 year olds may be a little off base. Barring concerns raised by the preschool teacher or pediatrician, I'd say just relax a little. Enjoy your son as he is right now. Re-evaluate for yourself in 6 months or a year. If you still feel concerned, then go ahead with a reevaluation if you absolutely must, but at this point, I think you're working yourself up without any benefit. (Note that I didn't say "over nothing" - no one on the internet can give you an accurate evaluation. My point is that right now there's nothing so pressing as to need immediate attention.)
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