does this sound like regressive autism? is it time to seek another ASD evaluation?

Anonymous
What do his daycare teachers think? None of what you describe really sounds alarming to me, but I know that trying to describe nuances of behaviors in young kids is tough. I'd be interested in whether the daycare teachers were seeing patterns that troubled them or not.

What are the issues with sleep?
Anonymous
OP here.

DS' daycare teachers have no concerns. They handle his difficulty transitioning between activities quite well.

WRT to his sleep issues, here's the original thread I posted: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/524730.page
Anonymous
My child has autism and what you describe does not sound to me to be of great alarm for autism.
Anonymous
Actually the way he is playing is very unlikely that he has autism. He is actually playing quite creatively.

I would get him checked for seizure. But I would get yourself to see a therapist. Your obsession with ASD is unhealthy. There is really not going on with your DS that suggests ASD and you just got him evaluated thoroughly 8 month ago.
Anonymous
I meant nothing going on with him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You posted before. Please get him checked out for seizures. Other than that none of what you are noting sounds like and ASD. And ASD is a deficit in social communication skills that causes at least significant interferes with functioning. You already had one complete evaluation that cleared him. But there are types of epilepsy that can look like regressive autism.


Not OP, but what kind of doctor do you see for possible seizures. Where do you recommend going?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I would get him an evaluation at Children's Center for Autism Spectrum Disorders:

http://childrensnational.org/departments/center-for-autism-spectrum-disorderscasd

Specifically for ADOS/ADI-R, which is considered the gold standard for diagnosing ASDs.

Your son sounds a lot like my son who was diagnosed with Aspergers's when he was 4. At this age, it isn't so much the social communication issues (parallel play is still considered OK) but the repetitive behaviors and obsessive interests that got DS diagnosed with ASD.

DS is 8 now and was also diagnosed with ADHD, combined type, at 7 through a full neuropsych eval but the ASD/Asperger's type diagnosis at 4 was spot on.

Good luck!


Interesting that no one else agrees with you. But here you are, suggesting ASD, as you do for 90 percent of children with any issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would get him an evaluation at Children's Center for Autism Spectrum Disorders:

http://childrensnational.org/departments/center-for-autism-spectrum-disorderscasd

Specifically for ADOS/ADI-R, which is considered the gold standard for diagnosing ASDs.

Your son sounds a lot like my son who was diagnosed with Aspergers's when he was 4. At this age, it isn't so much the social communication issues (parallel play is still considered OK) but the repetitive behaviors and obsessive interests that got DS diagnosed with ASD.

DS is 8 now and was also diagnosed with ADHD, combined type, at 7 through a full neuropsych eval but the ASD/Asperger's type diagnosis at 4 was spot on.

Good luck!


Interesting that no one else agrees with you. But here you are, suggesting ASD, as you do for 90 percent of children with any issues.


I gave my opinion and recommendation. Did not realize OP was taking a poll for a diagnosis by describing her son's symptoms on the Internet from people who never met her son.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would get him an evaluation at Children's Center for Autism Spectrum Disorders:

http://childrensnational.org/departments/center-for-autism-spectrum-disorderscasd

Specifically for ADOS/ADI-R, which is considered the gold standard for diagnosing ASDs.

Your son sounds a lot like my son who was diagnosed with Aspergers's when he was 4. At this age, it isn't so much the social communication issues (parallel play is still considered OK) but the repetitive behaviors and obsessive interests that got DS diagnosed with ASD.

DS is 8 now and was also diagnosed with ADHD, combined type, at 7 through a full neuropsych eval but the ASD/Asperger's type diagnosis at 4 was spot on.

Good luck!


Interesting that no one else agrees with you. But here you are, suggesting ASD, as you do for 90 percent of children with any issues.


This is just so vague. What 4 year old is not obsessive about their favorite thing at that moment???????
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would get him an evaluation at Children's Center for Autism Spectrum Disorders:

http://childrensnational.org/departments/center-for-autism-spectrum-disorderscasd

Specifically for ADOS/ADI-R, which is considered the gold standard for diagnosing ASDs.

Your son sounds a lot like my son who was diagnosed with Aspergers's when he was 4. At this age, it isn't so much the social communication issues (parallel play is still considered OK) but the repetitive behaviors and obsessive interests that got DS diagnosed with ASD.

DS is 8 now and was also diagnosed with ADHD, combined type, at 7 through a full neuropsych eval but the ASD/Asperger's type diagnosis at 4 was spot on.

Good luck!


Interesting that no one else agrees with you. But here you are, suggesting ASD, as you do for 90 percent of children with any issues.


I gave my opinion and recommendation. Did not realize OP was taking a poll for a diagnosis by describing her son's symptoms on the Internet from people who never met her son.


She just had an evaluation 8 months ago. Most 3 year olds have similar tendancies -- they aren't autism related. Not even the teachers are concerned!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would get him an evaluation at Children's Center for Autism Spectrum Disorders:

http://childrensnational.org/departments/center-for-autism-spectrum-disorderscasd

Specifically for ADOS/ADI-R, which is considered the gold standard for diagnosing ASDs.

Your son sounds a lot like my son who was diagnosed with Aspergers's when he was 4. At this age, it isn't so much the social communication issues (parallel play is still considered OK) but the repetitive behaviors and obsessive interests that got DS diagnosed with ASD.

DS is 8 now and was also diagnosed with ADHD, combined type, at 7 through a full neuropsych eval but the ASD/Asperger's type diagnosis at 4 was spot on.

Good luck!


Interesting that no one else agrees with you. But here you are, suggesting ASD, as you do for 90 percent of children with any issues.


This is just so vague. What 4 year old is not obsessive about their favorite thing at that moment???????


Well, DS was diagnosed with Asperger's by actual doctors at Children's so while I am not going to post the report of their findings, you can rest assured that they did a through evaluation. Dr Shapiro and the psych Ed eval agreed about the Asperger's at 4.

Also, the diagnosis was confirmed by Dr Black with a neuropsych when DS was 7.
Anonymous
Most of this sounds like my 3yo, who we have no concerns about whatsoever. He's very social. The only difference is that my son is very good at pretend play with his stuffed animals and action figures and he's not obsessed with cars, but it sounds like your son is doing more pretending than you give him credit for and I don't think having a favorite thing is that alarming, either. My son has also always been verbally advanced and he loves to quote his favorite movies! And my older son, who is seven and also NT, prefers not to answer "what did you do today?" He always tells us "nothing."

I don't want to discount your intuition, but hopefully ease your mind a little.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would get him an evaluation at Children's Center for Autism Spectrum Disorders:

http://childrensnational.org/departments/center-for-autism-spectrum-disorderscasd

Specifically for ADOS/ADI-R, which is considered the gold standard for diagnosing ASDs.

Your son sounds a lot like my son who was diagnosed with Aspergers's when he was 4. At this age, it isn't so much the social communication issues (parallel play is still considered OK) but the repetitive behaviors and obsessive interests that got DS diagnosed with ASD.

DS is 8 now and was also diagnosed with ADHD, combined type, at 7 through a full neuropsych eval but the ASD/Asperger's type diagnosis at 4 was spot on.

Good luck!


Interesting that no one else agrees with you. But here you are, suggesting ASD, as you do for 90 percent of children with any issues.


This is just so vague. What 4 year old is not obsessive about their favorite thing at that moment???????


Well, DS was diagnosed with Asperger's by actual doctors at Children's so while I am not going to post the report of their findings, you can rest assured that they did a through evaluation. Dr Shapiro and the psych Ed eval agreed about the Asperger's at 4.

Also, the diagnosis was confirmed by Dr Black with a neuropsych when DS was 7.


OP has had an evaluation. Child is social and teachers aren't concerned. But parents like you always have to try to worry them, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would get him an evaluation at Children's Center for Autism Spectrum Disorders:

http://childrensnational.org/departments/center-for-autism-spectrum-disorderscasd

Specifically for ADOS/ADI-R, which is considered the gold standard for diagnosing ASDs.

Your son sounds a lot like my son who was diagnosed with Aspergers's when he was 4. At this age, it isn't so much the social communication issues (parallel play is still considered OK) but the repetitive behaviors and obsessive interests that got DS diagnosed with ASD.

DS is 8 now and was also diagnosed with ADHD, combined type, at 7 through a full neuropsych eval but the ASD/Asperger's type diagnosis at 4 was spot on.

Good luck!


Interesting that no one else agrees with you. But here you are, suggesting ASD, as you do for 90 percent of children with any issues.


I gave my opinion and recommendation. Did not realize OP was taking a poll for a diagnosis by describing her son's symptoms on the Internet from people who never met her son.


She just had an evaluation 8 months ago. Most 3 year olds have similar tendancies -- they aren't autism related. Not even the teachers are concerned!


But OP is still concerned. So I recommend ADOS/ADI-R which by the time she gets the appointment, it will be longer than 8 months.

Also, the avg age for diagnosing Asperger's is 7. Most don't get catch early but early intervention is best.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only thing that sounds remotely concerning is the not responding to his name. Otherwise, it seems age appropriate to have a favorite toy, especially since it sounds like he's playing with it appropriately.

How are his interactions with peers? His expressive and receptive language?


OP here. He understands everything, speaks well, has big vocabulary, great articulation, etc. but his speech is not quite conversational. For example, I will ask, "how was school today?" he might respond, "it was great mom." if I follow up with "what did you do?" I hear crickets. He is able to tell us when he's mad, or frustrated, etc. sometimes before a tantrum, sometimes after.

Most of his time around other children is at daycare, but as far as I know, his peer interactions are fine. He has a best friend at daycare that he loves and gets very excited to see outside of daycare on the rare occasion, but beyond that, has few consistent play dates. On the playground, he always seek out and find one kid that he will follow around and imitate. BUT, he's known to be pushy and territorial sometimes too, say, when we visit the train display at our local bookstore.

I forgot to mention in my original post that he often repeats phrases he hears from his favorite cartoons. Sometimes we'll ask him where he heard [whatever statement he made] and he will tell us which cartoon.


That sounds like an expressive language disorder and/or receptive.

His behavior sounds pretty normal for his age. His language does not. I'd have him evaluated by a speech clinic and see what they say.


I don't think so. He is 3.5. Most of them quote their favorite shows and have a hard time responding to open ended questions like that.


Most 3-4 year olds can say something that they did at school that day. If they don't remember, they'll make it up. An inability to say one thing that happened at school is absolutely a warning sign for a language disorder.
Here is a helpful milestone chart that shows you what a 3-4 year old should do: http://www.asha.org/public/speech/development/34/

Excessive repetition of phrases from TV shows is also a symptom of a language disorder and/or ASD.
http://lessonplans.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/15/it-bears-repeating/?_r=0

Do you have a kid with a SN? If you don't, please get off the forum. You don't know what you're talking about and you aren't helpful.
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