Arlington has asked Virginia to rename Jefferson Davis Highway

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are taking down a bunch of statues in New Orleans. I hope they at least move them somewhere where students of history can view them. I dont mind occasions renamings if someone new / more relevant is to be honored - but this surgical excision of America's past is horrifying. They say study the past to avoid repeating it, but we are just hitting delete. How computer generation.

The progressive agenda cannot survive concurrently with an understanding of history. Removing history is the worst kind of control.

We are t removing history. We are merely declining to treat someone who waged war in America as though he were a hero. What's next, the Jonathan Pollard Memorial Parkway? Hey, that's history too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are taking down a bunch of statues in New Orleans. I hope they at least move them somewhere where students of history can view them. I dont mind occasions renamings if someone new / more relevant is to be honored - but this surgical excision of America's past is horrifying. They say study the past to avoid repeating it, but we are just hitting delete. How computer generation.

The progressive agenda cannot survive concurrently with an understanding of history. Removing history is the worst kind of control.

We are t removing history. We are merely declining to treat someone who waged war in America as though he were a hero. What's next, the Jonathan Pollard Memorial Parkway? Hey, that's history too.

How about all of the places still named after Native American tribes that waged war against the American colonies? Shouldn't we rename those as well? Members of the massachusetts tribes waged war on the Bay Colony. Members of the potomac empire attacked those at Jamestown. By your logic they were enemies that lost and therefore we should erase them from place names. But something tells me you'll say "well there are two sides to that— they were right to attack us, or it was at least understandable."

[Anonymous]

And while we're at it, shouldn't we also rename any place named after the British crown or places in Britain? After all we had two wars with Britain including one where they invaded us and Burt down our capital. So how can we justify keeping places like "Georgetown" and schools like "William & Mary"?

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How dare Virginia idolize a rebel!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While I agree with changing the name, one negative to consider is that this could be a large expense not just for taxpayers (changing signage), but for businesses (large and small) along the Hwy- changing letterhead, advertising materials, etc.

Then again, they might appreciate not having the name Jefferson Davis on all of their materials.

Keeping it "Jeff Davis" is going to be a bigger nuisance more than changing it. It's Route 1. In most of the state, it's called Richmond Highway. In Fairfax, it's called Richmond Highway. Alexandria is looking into changing the name to Richmond Highway as well. Calling it Jeff Davis is a non-conforming address protocol. Within a few years, if it's still Jeff Davis, it will be nothing but confusing to tourists (not that confusing tourists isn't a good idea, but still).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I agree with changing the name, one negative to consider is that this could be a large expense not just for taxpayers (changing signage), but for businesses (large and small) along the Hwy- changing letterhead, advertising materials, etc.

Then again, they might appreciate not having the name Jefferson Davis on all of their materials.

Keeping it "Jeff Davis" is going to be a bigger nuisance more than changing it. It's Route 1. In most of the state, it's called Richmond Highway. In Fairfax, it's called Richmond Highway. Alexandria is looking into changing the name to Richmond Highway as well. Calling it Jeff Davis is a non-conforming address protocol. Within a few years, if it's still Jeff Davis, it will be nothing but confusing to tourists (not that confusing tourists isn't a good idea, but still).

I don’t understand your reasoning. It is ALREADY Jefferson Davis Highway and has been for a long while. How is NOT changing it going to be more confusing to tourists than it is already?

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GMAFB. Don't you know that Dixie was Lincoln's favorite song?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How dare Virginia idolize a rebel!

That's the Roman goddess Virtus, who I'm pretty sure did not command any forces to attack the North in the Civil War.

The expression "Sic Semper Tyrannis" originally came from the assassination of Caesar and was in widespread use long before American history.

[Anonymous]

For the poster who keeps saying "what about xxx and what about yyy named after so-and-so" - you are welcome to do your own activism and raise your own petitions to rename those things if you find them so objectionable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the poster who keeps saying "what about xxx and what about yyy named after so-and-so" - you are welcome to do your own activism and raise your own petitions to rename those things if you find them so objectionable.

And, the point is.... that eventually, someone probably will.
When will this madness stop? I would be that SOMEONE SOMEWHERE can take offense to the name of ANY building, street, city, monument, etc.
Perhaps leaving these things named as they are will encourage people to teach their kids about the history of our fine country - if they know the history themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the poster who keeps saying "what about xxx and what about yyy named after so-and-so" - you are welcome to do your own activism and raise your own petitions to rename those things if you find them so objectionable.

I was among those points to show how rediculous asking for the Jeff Davis highway to be renamed is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How dare Virginia idolize a rebel!

That's the Roman goddess Virtus, who I'm pretty sure did not command any forces to attack the North in the Civil War.

The expression "Sic Semper Tyrannis" originally came from the assassination of Caesar and was in widespread use long before American history.

Actually it probably dates back to the assassination of King Tarquin (the last roman king before the founding of the republic). The point is that the seal venerates rebels. The slogan was also shouted by john Wilkes booth.

I think the bigger point here is that, like it or not, the guy was the president and commander in chief of the confederate states of America. He led a failed secession, yes, but he wasn't an Adolfo Hitler figure that rounded up Jews and shoved them I to gas chambers. Even a terrible president deserves a few roads named after him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the poster who keeps saying "what about xxx and what about yyy named after so-and-so" - you are welcome to do your own activism and raise your own petitions to rename those things if you find them so objectionable.

I was among those points to show how rediculous asking for the Jeff Davis highway to be renamed is.

You missed the point. There is a critical mass of people in Arlington who think the Jefferson Davis name should be dropped where it passes through their jurisdiction. Those people don't give a damn about renaming Georgetown. If you want Georgetown renamed, go out and drum up your own support for your cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How dare Virginia idolize a rebel!

That's the Roman goddess Virtus, who I'm pretty sure did not command any forces to attack the North in the Civil War.

The expression "Sic Semper Tyrannis" originally came from the assassination of Caesar and was in widespread use long before American history.

Actually it probably dates back to the assassination of King Tarquin (the last roman king before the founding of the republic). The point is that the seal venerates rebels. The slogan was also shouted by john Wilkes booth.

I think the bigger point here is that, like it or not, the guy was the president and commander in chief of the confederate states of America. He led a failed secession, yes, but he wasn't an Adolfo Hitler figure that rounded up Jews and shoved them I to gas chambers. Even a terrible president deserves a few roads named after him.

No, Davis wasn't responsible for killing 6 million Jews, but he was[u] responsible for killing 620,000 Americans in the Civil War. And for no reason other than to defend and promote slavery. I think he does not deserve to be venerated in any way, shape or form. Even General Lee turned his back on every veneration and symbol of the confederacy after the war ended. It is well documented that after the war, Robert E. Lee did not want confederate flags, uniforms, or symbols anywhere in his presence. He had far better insight and reasoning for this than any person alive today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the poster who keeps saying "what about xxx and what about yyy named after so-and-so" - you are welcome to do your own activism and raise your own petitions to rename those things if you find them so objectionable.

I was among those points to show how rediculous asking for the Jeff Davis highway to be renamed is.

You missed the point. There is a critical mass of people in Arlington who think the Jefferson Davis name should be dropped where it passes through their jurisdiction. Those people don't give a damn about renaming Georgetown. If you want Georgetown renamed, go out and drum up your own support for your cause.

3,000 people signing a petition counts as critical mass? Luckily, Richmond makes these decisions, not the clowns on the county board.