Serena on steroids?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is the best athlete in the world IMO. She's got a beautiful strong body and a mind to match. People are threatened and frightened of her. And yet on she hits. (Haters gonna hate.)


I love Serena, but Ronda Rousey is the best female athlete. Both women are amazing.
Anonymous
Is she on steroids? Are you kidding me? Have you seen her pictures?
Anonymous
My guess is that you don't know very much about tennis. Tennis currently has one of the strongest anti-drug programs in organized sports, as opposed to cycling (e.g. Armstrong) which was rumored to have one of the more corrupt anti-drug monitoring systems in organized sports. All of the top players are subjected to routine on-site tournament drug testing as well as regular unannounced out-of-tournament testing. However, if the NY Post article is to be believed (rather doubtful, NY Post, really?!?) the tester violated procedure by arriving and not identifying himself. It's supposed to be unannounced, not anonymous testing.

In addition, that NY Post article is 4 years old from November 2011. Serena injured herself in a bizarre restaurant accident at the end of 2010 (she stepped on a broken glass table in sandals and sliced up her foot). While out for 6 months, she had a hematoma and pulmonary embolism and nearly died. She was completely out of the sport for 6 months. When she returned she had dropped out of the top 10. In November 2011, she was still outside the top-10 and not fully back in shape from six months of no play and no training. Since that time, she worked hard and got herself back into shape and starting in 2013 became the dominant force she is in tennis. From 2013 on, she has been subjected to significant drug testing and its unlikely that any steroid could pass the drug testing that tennis subjects top-100 let alone top-10 players to. If you don't believe, take a look at the histories of Martina Hingis, Wayne Odesnik, Marin Cilic, Barbora Strycova, Sesil Karatantcheva, Guillermo Canas and Robbie Kendrick to just name the more publicized infractions. There are still flaws to the system, but tennis still has one of the stricter drug testing programs and steroids are definitely identified.
Anonymous
I pay zero attention to tennis and think Serena Williams looks great, but I'd bet money she'd piss hot during the off-season (Anavar and Testosterone, possibly some other stuff, too). I'm sure the rest of the tennis elite are juiced to the gills too, so it's nothing against her personally.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is the best athlete in the world IMO. She's got a beautiful strong body and a mind to match. People are threatened and frightened of her. And yet on she hits. (Haters gonna hate.)


I love Serena, but Ronda Rousey is the female athlete. Both women are amazing.


Who?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of speculation because she has recently looked a lot more muscular then in the past.

As you age you get less muscular not more, this is very drastic.

Here is serena when younger




Currrent day




That's not Serena in the pink. That's her head transposed onto someone's body. I saw her at the SE Tennis Center last year. She is not that big.


Thank you. She's not that big. I am an AA woman who does triathlons. Honestly, believe what you want, but black women get cut when they work out like that. I do. Half the women I know look like her. She's not that big. Haters.
Anonymous
The last picture isn't even a good photoshop.

I have no idea if she's on steroids or not but trying to pass that off as her is kind of funny.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is the best athlete in the world IMO. She's got a beautiful strong body and a mind to match. People are threatened and frightened of her. And yet on she hits. (Haters gonna hate.)


I love Serena, but Ronda Rousey is the female athlete. Both women are amazing.


Sit out the next sports discussion. Ronda Rousey couldn't even dominate her own sport, Judo, and got a participation medal at the Olympics for coming fourth. She only emerged as dominant when she started fighting unathletic women none of whom train full time. Her last opponent was an accountant just three years ago.

A lifelong Judoka whose mother was Olympic level is fighting random unskilled Joes in a "sport" so new for women that it didn't even exist in the UFC until two years ago. Sounds like greatness, right? I guess I'll go fight some 8 year olds and wait to be growned greatest of all time.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here - they used to have pretty similar body types years ago. Now she's the hulk. Where there's smoke there's fire.


Well. Venus has an immune disorder. I wouldn't think comparing their bodies would reveal much. Venus isn't all she could be if healthier

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is the best athlete in the world IMO. She's got a beautiful strong body and a mind to match. People are threatened and frightened of her. And yet on she hits. (Haters gonna hate.)


I love Serena, but Ronda Rousey is the female athlete. Both women are amazing.


Sit out the next sports discussion. Ronda Rousey couldn't even dominate her own sport, Judo, and got a participation medal at the Olympics for coming fourth. She only emerged as dominant when she started fighting unathletic women none of whom train full time. Her last opponent was an accountant just three years ago.

A lifelong Judoka whose mother was Olympic level is fighting random unskilled Joes in a "sport" so new for women that it didn't even exist in the UFC until two years ago. Sounds like greatness, right? I guess I'll go fight some 8 year olds and wait to be growned greatest of all time.



You're kidding, right? Just because UFC didn't sign women until two years ago doesn't mean that women are new to the MMA scene. Plenty of other organizations signed women long before UFC finally figured it out. Rousey was well-known in women's MMA long before Dana White signed her and she was a highly respected fighter before then.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is the best athlete in the world IMO. She's got a beautiful strong body and a mind to match. People are threatened and frightened of her. And yet on she hits. (Haters gonna hate.)


I love Serena, but Ronda Rousey is the female athlete. Both women are amazing.


Sit out the next sports discussion. Ronda Rousey couldn't even dominate her own sport, Judo, and got a participation medal at the Olympics for coming fourth. She only emerged as dominant when she started fighting unathletic women none of whom train full time. Her last opponent was an accountant just three years ago.

A lifelong Judoka whose mother was Olympic level is fighting random unskilled Joes in a "sport" so new for women that it didn't even exist in the UFC until two years ago. Sounds like greatness, right? I guess I'll go fight some 8 year olds and wait to be growned greatest of all time.



You're kidding, right? Just because UFC didn't sign women until two years ago doesn't mean that women are new to the MMA scene. Plenty of other organizations signed women long before UFC finally figured it out. Rousey was well-known in women's MMA long before Dana White signed her and she was a highly respected fighter before then.


I said two things regarding the newness: 1. That the sport is new, and 2. That the UFC did not have a women's division until two years ago. These are all facts. Where did you infer from this that I am saying that women are new to the MMA scene? Reading comprehension, my friend.

Your point about Rousey is irrelevant to all of the points I was making. Being well known in MMA before the UFC does not change the fact that she is crushing cans and has been put up against pitiful competition to make her look good. Or do you deny that Bethe Correia was an accountant just three years ago and cannot afford to train full time even today?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here - they used to have pretty similar body types years ago. Now she's the hulk. Where there's smoke there's fire.


You, my friend, are a disgraceful liar. Not even when they were 10 and 11 year olds did they have similar bodies. Post the photo of them looking similar or shut up. The fact that you would go so far as to lie in order to suggest Serena is using steroids indicates you are just another jealous, feckless loser. Get a life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is the best athlete in the world IMO. She's got a beautiful strong body and a mind to match. People are threatened and frightened of her. And yet on she hits. (Haters gonna hate.)


I love Serena, but Ronda Rousey is the female athlete. Both women are amazing.


Sit out the next sports discussion. Ronda Rousey couldn't even dominate her own sport, Judo, and got a participation medal at the Olympics for coming fourth. She only emerged as dominant when she started fighting unathletic women none of whom train full time. Her last opponent was an accountant just three years ago.

A lifelong Judoka whose mother was Olympic level is fighting random unskilled Joes in a "sport" so new for women that it didn't even exist in the UFC until two years ago. Sounds like greatness, right? I guess I'll go fight some 8 year olds and wait to be growned greatest of all time.



You're kidding, right? Just because UFC didn't sign women until two years ago doesn't mean that women are new to the MMA scene. Plenty of other organizations signed women long before UFC finally figured it out. Rousey was well-known in women's MMA long before Dana White signed her and she was a highly respected fighter before then.


I said two things regarding the newness: 1. That the sport is new, and 2. That the UFC did not have a women's division until two years ago. These are all facts. Where did you infer from this that I am saying that women are new to the MMA scene? Reading comprehension, my friend.

Your point about Rousey is irrelevant to all of the points I was making. Being well known in MMA before the UFC does not change the fact that she is crushing cans and has been put up against pitiful competition to make her look good. Or do you deny that Bethe Correia was an accountant just three years ago and cannot afford to train full time even today?



My point was that the sport is NOT new, to men or women. As for Bethe Correia, I don't think that was a good matchup, but Bethe wanted the fight so whatever. However, if you're seriously arguing that Meisha Tate, who's been grappling since she was barely a teenager or Sara McMann (Olympic wrestling medalist, Abu Dhabi BJJ medalist, etc) are cans, then I don't really know what to tell you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is the best athlete in the world IMO. She's got a beautiful strong body and a mind to match. People are threatened and frightened of her. And yet on she hits. (Haters gonna hate.)


I love Serena, but Ronda Rousey is the female athlete. Both women are amazing.


Sit out the next sports discussion. Ronda Rousey couldn't even dominate her own sport, Judo, and got a participation medal at the Olympics for coming fourth. She only emerged as dominant when she started fighting unathletic women none of whom train full time. Her last opponent was an accountant just three years ago.

A lifelong Judoka whose mother was Olympic level is fighting random unskilled Joes in a "sport" so new for women that it didn't even exist in the UFC until two years ago. Sounds like greatness, right? I guess I'll go fight some 8 year olds and wait to be growned greatest of all time.



You're kidding, right? Just because UFC didn't sign women until two years ago doesn't mean that women are new to the MMA scene. Plenty of other organizations signed women long before UFC finally figured it out. Rousey was well-known in women's MMA long before Dana White signed her and she was a highly respected fighter before then.


I said two things regarding the newness: 1. That the sport is new, and 2. That the UFC did not have a women's division until two years ago. These are all facts. Where did you infer from this that I am saying that women are new to the MMA scene? Reading comprehension, my friend.

Your point about Rousey is irrelevant to all of the points I was making. Being well known in MMA before the UFC does not change the fact that she is crushing cans and has been put up against pitiful competition to make her look good. Or do you deny that Bethe Correia was an accountant just three years ago and cannot afford to train full time even today?



My point was that the sport is NOT new, to men or women. As for Bethe Correia, I don't think that was a good matchup, but Bethe wanted the fight so whatever. However, if you're seriously arguing that Meisha Tate, who's been grappling since she was barely a teenager or Sara McMann (Olympic wrestling medalist, Abu Dhabi BJJ medalist, etc) are cans, then I don't really know what to tell you?


You must not know what the word "new" means. MMA is only 21 years old in its modern form (since Rorion Gracie founded the UFC in 1994). Even if you credit the Vale Tudos that the Gracies were holding in Brazil as MMA, that makes MMA 60 years old at most. Do I need to remind you how old other sports are? MMA is easily one of the world's newest sports and certainly the newest combat sport. There are still credible debates about whether it is a sport, for crying out loud.

As far as Miesha Tate and Sara McMann go, only a fool would argue that they are credible MMA competition. Neither one trains at a noteworthy camp and Miesha only started training full time in the past year. Sara still does not train full time because she cannot afford to. Sara McMann's silver at the Olympics came in a year when the two Best in the world were injured and women's Olympic wrestling was only established in the 90s. The competition there is widely recognized to be shallow and I say this as a former female wrestler myself. Miesha Tate's teenage grappling experience that you referred to consists of high school wrestling that even Ronda has mocked. Are you dense? Compare those two to Ronda who has been given the best training that money can buy. Olympic Judo since birth -- and Judo is as established on the women's side as any sport on the men's side - BJJ with the Gracies, boxing with Mike Tyson and excellent boxing coaches, kickboxing with Winklejohn and then other established coaches, and still training Judo with the women's Olympic team. Weight cutting services by Mike Dolce paid for by the UFC. You are taking a person giving the best money can buy and putting her up against people who I could probably take out if I was in the mood. That is called can crushing and it is a joke.

It is an embarrassment to compare her to Serena Williams who has been defeating the absolute best in the world, women who have had access to the best training since childhood -- better training then Serena had from Richard Williams, in fact. Serena's competition is head and shoulders above anything Rousey is facing. You reveal your complete ignorance of sports to even make the comparison.

Anonymous
First of all, I wasn't the PP who compared Serena Williams to Rousey. I admittedly know very little about tennis but think they're both elite athletes in their respective fields, no arguement there.

Out of curiosity, which MMA camps do you consider credible? Also, please list your competition stats and rank if you think you could seriously "take out" either Tate or McMann, ahahaha. I know elite female grapplers who have rolled with both and they were reportedly no joke on the mat. If you get invited to ADCC, you're definitely no slouch, and Rousey herself said she was impressed by Tate's ground game, so I'm not sure what you're on about there.

I don't consider a 60 year old, or even a 20 year old sport, to be "new", regardless of how long other sports have been around.
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