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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]She is the best athlete in the world IMO. She's got a beautiful strong body and a mind to match. People are threatened and frightened of her. And yet on she hits. (Haters gonna hate.)[/quote]

I love Serena, but Ronda Rousey is the female athlete. Both women are amazing. [/quote]

Sit out the next sports discussion. Ronda Rousey couldn't even dominate her own sport, Judo, and got a participation medal at the Olympics for coming fourth. She only emerged as dominant when she started fighting unathletic women none of whom train full time. Her last opponent was an accountant just three years ago.

A lifelong Judoka whose mother was Olympic level is fighting random unskilled Joes in a "sport" so new for women that it didn't even exist in the UFC until two years ago. Sounds like greatness, right? I guess I'll go fight some 8 year olds and wait to be growned greatest of all time. :lol:

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You're kidding, right? Just because UFC didn't sign women until two years ago doesn't mean that women are new to the MMA scene.  Plenty of other organizations signed women long before UFC finally figured it out.  Rousey was well-known in women's MMA long before Dana White signed her and she was a highly respected fighter before then.   [/quote]

I said two things regarding the newness:  1.  That the sport is new, and 2. That the UFC did not have a women's division until two years ago.  These are all facts.  Where did you infer from this that I am saying that women are new to the MMA scene?  Reading comprehension, my friend.

Your point about Rousey is irrelevant to all of the points I was making. Being well known in MMA before the UFC does not change the fact that she is crushing cans and has been put up against pitiful competition to make her look good.  Or do you deny that Bethe Correia was an accountant just three years ago and cannot afford to train full time even today?

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My point was that the sport is NOT new, to men or women.  As for Bethe Correia, I don't think that was a good matchup, but Bethe wanted the fight so whatever.  However, if you're seriously arguing that Meisha Tate, who's been grappling since she was barely a teenager or Sara McMann (Olympic wrestling medalist, Abu Dhabi BJJ medalist, etc) are cans, then I don't really know what to tell you? [/quote]

You must not know what the word "new" means. MMA is only 21 years old in its modern form (since Rorion Gracie founded the UFC in 1994). Even if you credit the Vale Tudos that the Gracies were holding in Brazil as MMA, that makes MMA 60 years old at most. Do I need to remind you how old other sports are? MMA is easily one of the world's newest sports and certainly the newest combat sport. There are still credible debates about whether it is a sport, for crying out loud.

As far as Miesha Tate and Sara McMann go, only a fool would argue that they are credible MMA competition. Neither one trains at a noteworthy camp and Miesha only started training full time in the past year. Sara still does not train full time because she cannot afford to. Sara McMann's silver at the Olympics came in a year when the two  Best in the world were injured and women's Olympic wrestling was only established in the 90s. The competition there is widely recognized to be shallow and I say this as a former female wrestler myself. Miesha Tate's teenage grappling experience that you referred to consists of high school wrestling that even Ronda has mocked. Are you dense? Compare those two to Ronda who has been given the best training that money can buy. Olympic Judo since birth -- and Judo is as established on the women's side as any sport on the men's side - BJJ with the Gracies, boxing with Mike Tyson and excellent boxing coaches, kickboxing with Winklejohn and then other established coaches, and still training Judo with the women's Olympic team.  Weight cutting services by Mike Dolce paid for by the UFC. You are taking a person giving the best money can buy and putting her up against people who I could probably take out if I was in the mood. That is called can crushing and it is a joke.

It is an embarrassment to compare her to Serena Williams who has been defeating the absolute best in the world, women who have had access to the best training since childhood -- better training  then Serena had from Richard Williams, in fact. Serena's competition is head and shoulders above anything Rousey is facing. You reveal your complete ignorance of sports to even make the comparison.

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