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Yes, I am. It is wonderful. Rev. DeDe is caring and will take time with anyone to discuss any issues or questions you have. |
She can't take communion. |
Full disclosure -- better not trust a Jewish Mom mind-reader who knows the Catholic church is right for you and your daughter. |
until she goes to a priest and confesses her sins -- assuming she thinks she has sins to confess and that a priest can absolve them -- and that this has anything to do with her daughter's existential crisis |
PP here. The only points I am making are that 1. this little girl's crisis won't be solved with a purchase from Amazon. She is looking for spirituality and comfort and if you ask me, joining a religios community will help her. 2. Buy-in from mom, not a book from Amazon, will help with this, and mom should go where she knows the drill, thus to the Catholics 3. At least according to my friends and the metro ads welcoming you home, the Catholic Church would be happy to have her. So I got communion rules a bit off. It is lazy thinking and a cop out to say that communion is the issue. 4. She owes her daughter some tools for thinking about faith and pretty much any religion can give a person that. The point is, it sounds like this kid needs a church, and that means mom needs to go with her. |
I think going back to church is a great idea, but yeah, wanted to clarify about communion. |
Got it. I reacted adversely to your clarification because of the rude posters. Got you mixed up. I mentioned my faith only to make it clear I wasn't choosing Catholicism, but the familiar, and only mentioned communion because it isn't an obstacle to entering the sanctuary. |
| She "owes" her daughter "tools" for thinking about faith? What does that even mean? She "owes" her a framework that assumes faith is mandatory to solve this existential crisis? |
+1 My own CCD experience in another state had a certain amount of sin and guilt, but for my kids now it is about gods love and the teaching of Jesus. I was just like your daughter and ended up pursuing Catholicism, Buddhism and Hinduism, studies in consciousness, and a sprinkle of new age. It's a lifelong fascination. Wish I'd had a friend like your DD to mull Big Questions with! |
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I'm sorry you guys - are we talking about the same Catholic church here? THE Catholic Church - the one with the Vatican and the Pope and all that jazz? The one that ONLY YESTERDAY agreed to a tribunal to to judge bishops of covering up DECADES of Pedophile actions. Wow, he said "let's go ahead an look at it"!
The same church that would tell OP's DD she shouldn't use birth control - even if she were married and already had 6 kids? I mean, I'm happy they've toned down the "sin" component as far as you're all concerned, and the new Pope they've got seems like a real nice guy and all -- but I haven't heard him say, go ahead and take a pill Latin America! THIS is how you all recommend her dealing with her 7 year olds existential crisis? Those faithful reading this are thinking what? "oh, but that's just a small part of it - This shrew doesn't get what is so great about the love of Jesus." You'll probably have some back-pocket quote about how men are fallible but God teaches through them blah blah blah. It's bullshit. OP - don't do this to your daughter. Teach her she can love herself and love her fellow man, and live each day in service to others because that will make her feel purpose and see the best in humanity and existence. That's all she needs. |
Because she is having an existential crisis and religions have a vocab for this. |
philosophy has a vocal for this too that does not involve various sets of rules and beliefs in invisible beings |
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I don't think formal religion is necessary.
But I do believe religion is necessary for kids - it gives them answers to all your DD's questions. Gives them a reason to be good, love one another, etc. It sure helped when our cat died 2 weeks ago (Jesus left a note for 3 yr old DD that he came and took her to heaven, clouds drawn around it etc). I asked DD tonite "where's kitty?" She told me in heaven with Jesus. And I've never taken her to church. And telling her not to hit because it makes Jesus sad works too. When my DD is older, she can read the bible and internet or whatever and formulate her own modified beliefs, but I think a childhood without religion is seriously lacking. Plus, with no religion now, there's no choice to make later. I think it's near impossible to make that leap as an adult. I'd think it's like trying to convince a jewish or muslim person that jesus was the messiah and god was his dad. |
You bet the Catholic church would be happy to have her - they are losing people in droves. They are so desperate they're going to Africa and S america to try to increase their numbers among the ignorant peasant. They'd love to snap up someone like OP's daughter. |
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1. You are an ex-Catholic, mostly agnostic.
2. Your daughter is having an identity crisis. Therapy is your route and not religion. Why would you confuse her with religious beliefs if you can't anchor yourself to a belief system? Steer her toward the sciences. Teach her what we DO know. Throwing her into a man[u]-made belief system - where there's the possibility of a hell for people who are "bad" or a stereotypical roles for women or rules that teach you to live your life in fear - won't end her crisis. You'd simply be modeling hypocrisy for her.
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