Watching a documentary on the Laura Houghteling Murder from Years Ago.

[Anonymous]

Just stay away from the mentally ill and certainly do not hire them no matter what your social justice views are. And before someone snaps, I am not blaming any of the victims for hiring these people.

My former 24 year old neighbor just murdered another neighbor in nyc. She also has a mental illness.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Va, but I lived in MD when she was killed. I was passing by the lit where she was found not too long ago and thought of her. So sad.
As a parent, I can't imagine why you'd hire a homeless schizophrenic. I just can't.
I had no idea he killed Michelle Dorr too.

Hiring them is fine. Inviting them into your home, giving them keys and access to your daughter ? That’s a no-no.

I don't think he had keys but the door wasn't locked and that was how he was able to enter.

I believe he had keys.

The keys were in a shed that he knew about. So basically, there were no security concerns which is so crazy when you think about it in 2018. DH and I have an alarm system, a camera system and we even place pipes at the bottom of sliding doors so people cant just slide open the patio door into our house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just stay away from the mentally ill and certainly do not hire them no matter what your social justice views are. And before someone snaps, I am not blaming any of the victims for hiring these people.

My former 24 year old neighbor just murdered another neighbor in nyc. She also has a mental illness.

That must be terrifying.

[Anonymous]

Many years later I am going to talk about this: I worked with Warren, Laura's brother. We shared an office at a small Quaker school. I remember the day he realized she hadn't returned home and he had no idea where she could be. He was frantic. Penny, their mother was off on a spirituality treck in Virginia (?) and couldn't be reached. Penny had befriended Clarke and he was regularly welcome in their house. I've learned the hard way that mentally ill people are just fine so long as they're on meds and under a doctor's care. But this guy had serious, much more crippling problems that appeared to be familial. He became crazed with jealousy when Laura came home from Harvard to live. I sat on those stairs in Penny's house at Warren and Pam's engagement party and wondered how Penny could have been so careless about having this crazed guy in her house. She was a flakey woman, apparently a psychologist or social worker, and the family made known their Roosevelt connections while at the same time scorned all entitlement. But Penny had NO smarts about people. All that Quaker spirituality and Silent Retreats among like-minded untutored "therapists." Warren died just as his father had: Too young from heart disease. Let us hope his children are under the care of a good cardiologist to help them evade the same curse. Damn it! Penny seemed to just not care? Or was she mentally ill in her own precious way? I miss you, Warren! Please rest in peace, darling friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what street they were living on at the time? Sounds like my neighborhood.

They lived off of Lone Oak Dr., on Juilliard. Not too far from the Methodist church.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many years later I am going to talk about this: I worked with Warren, Laura's brother. We shared an office at a small Quaker school. I remember the day he realized she hadn't returned home and he had no idea where she could be. He was frantic. Penny, their mother was off on a spirituality treck in Virginia (?) and couldn't be reached. Penny had befriended Clarke and he was regularly welcome in their house. I've learned the hard way that mentally ill people are just fine so long as they're on meds and under a doctor's care. But this guy had serious, much more crippling problems that appeared to be familial. He became crazed with jealousy when Laura came home from Harvard to live. I sat on those stairs in Penny's house at Warren and Pam's engagement party and wondered how Penny could have been so careless about having this crazed guy in her house. She was a flakey woman, apparently a psychologist or social worker, and the family made known their Roosevelt connections while at the same time scorned all entitlement. But Penny had NO smarts about people. All that Quaker spirituality and Silent Retreats among like-minded untutored "therapists." Warren died just as his father had: Too young from heart disease. Let us hope his children are under the care of a good cardiologist to help them evade the same curse. Damn it! Penny seemed to just not care? Or was she mentally ill in her own precious way? I miss you, Warren! Please rest in peace, darling friend.

What Roosevelt connection?

[Anonymous]

Hadden also killed a little 6 year old girl. Everyone thought her father did it.

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Anonymous wrote:Many years later I am going to talk about this: I worked with Warren, Laura's brother. We shared an office at a small Quaker school. I remember the day he realized she hadn't returned home and he had no idea where she could be. He was frantic. Penny, their mother was off on a spirituality treck in Virginia (?) and couldn't be reached. Penny had befriended Clarke and he was regularly welcome in their house. I've learned the hard way that mentally ill people are just fine so long as they're on meds and under a doctor's care. But this guy had serious, much more crippling problems that appeared to be familial. He became crazed with jealousy when Laura came home from Harvard to live. I sat on those stairs in Penny's house at Warren and Pam's engagement party and wondered how Penny could have been so careless about having this crazed guy in her house. She was a flakey woman, apparently a psychologist or social worker, and the family made known their Roosevelt connections while at the same time scorned all entitlement. But Penny had NO smarts about people. All that Quaker spirituality and Silent Retreats among like-minded untutored "therapists." Warren died just as his father had: Too young from heart disease. Let us hope his children are under the care of a good cardiologist to help them evade the same curse. Damn it! Penny seemed to just not care? Or was she mentally ill in her own precious way? I miss you, Warren! Please rest in peace, darling friend.

Heartbreaking

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what street they were living on at the time? Sounds like my neighborhood.

They lived off of Lone Oak Dr., on Juilliard. Not too far from the Methodist church.

9936 Julliard
Sold in 2003.

[Anonymous]

Laura babysat me, and we knew her mother. I didn’t know of their Quaker connection.

I do remember how scary it was to find out the murderer killed Laura in a bed not far from my home.

The mother was born in 1925 unless this Find a Grave site is wrong. Becoming a mother at an older age was pretty unusual back then.

So sad that all three died. And is the murderer still alive?

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/139053892/penelope-swaney-houghteling

[Anonymous]

Laura went to my high school. She was really nice. I remember hearing that she was wary and afraid of the murderer.