Watching a documentary on the Laura Houghteling Murder from Years Ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the link - sorry:

http://reprints.longform.org/a-hole-in-the-ground

Did you really come back 3 years later to post a freaking link correction?

This might be my favorite dcum interaction ever

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Houghteling, Savopolous, Goff family, and the lululemon victim were all murdered by people that worked for them. These were not stranger murders or people they ran with in their circles. The employer/employee murder makes me nervous about anyone I would hire.

Be kind to those you hire. Cautious and kind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Houghteling, Savopolous, Goff family, and the lululemon victim were all murdered by people that worked for them. These were not stranger murders or people they ran with in their circles. The employer/employee murder makes me nervous about anyone I would hire.

Don’t forget the Krims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Houghteling, Savopolous, Goff family, and the lululemon victim were all murdered by people that worked for them. These were not stranger murders or people they ran with in their circles. The employer/employee murder makes me nervous about anyone I would hire.

Be kind to those you hire. Cautious and kind.

What makes you think they were unkind to the employees? There is no evidence of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Houghteling, Savopolous, Goff family, and the lululemon victim were all murdered by people that worked for them. These were not stranger murders or people they ran with in their circles. The employer/employee murder makes me nervous about anyone I would hire.

Be kind to those you hire. Cautious and kind.

In all accounts they were kind. The Smarts brought that lunatic to their home out of kindness.
Life has taught me that no good deed goes unpunished.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Houghteling, Savopolous, Goff family, and the lululemon victim were all murdered by people that worked for them. These were not stranger murders or people they ran with in their circles. The employer/employee murder makes me nervous about anyone I would hire.

Don’t forget the Krims.

Thank you. I can't believe I omitted them.

[Anonymous]

Pretty sure they lived off Lone oak in Bethesda. I lived around the corner at the time but was young and didn’t have kids. It definitely changed my attitude (sadly) about bringing troubled people into your life. I am very very cautious now that I have kids and think about the case all the time. I drive by the street several times a month to do errands and it makes me very sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Houghteling, Savopolous, Goff family, and the lululemon victim were all murdered by people that worked for them. These were not stranger murders or people they ran with in their circles. The employer/employee murder makes me nervous about anyone I would hire.

Be kind to those you hire. Cautious and kind.

WTH?????????? YOU THINK these people deserved to be murdered? The Savopolous Family and their nanny? The lululemmon employee who witnessed her colleague stealing merchandise and was tortured and murdered to punish her for calling their manager?

You are sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Houghteling, Savopolous, Goff family, and the lululemon victim were all murdered by people that worked for them. These were not stranger murders or people they ran with in their circles. The employer/employee murder makes me nervous about anyone I would hire.

Be kind to those you hire. Cautious and kind.

WTH?????????? YOU THINK these people deserved to be murdered? The Savopolous Family and their nanny? The lululemmon employee who witnessed her colleague stealing merchandise and was tortured and murdered to punish her for calling their manager?

You are sick.

I'm not pp. I don't think the poster meant they were unkind, rather in general watch your back. Those employees were unstable and you can do no wrong to them but still they will attack. Everyone knows the victims did absolutely nothing wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the link - sorry:

http://reprints.longform.org/a-hole-in-the-ground

Did you really come back 3 years later to post a freaking link correction?

I was discussing this with a friend of mine the day I posted the link, because we were talking about Sarah Pryor, as we grew up in the same area she disappeared from. He and I were discussing how Clark seemed to be everywhere we were - hometown, Cape Cod, DC area - and how weird that was. I had come back to this thread to find the link to send him the article, discovered it was broken, and decided to post a new link because the story was so darn interesting on so many levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the link - sorry:

http://reprints.longform.org/a-hole-in-the-ground

Did you really come back 3 years later to post a freaking link correction?

I was discussing this with a friend of mine the day I posted the link, because we were talking about Sarah Pryor, as we grew up in the same area she disappeared from. He and I were discussing how Clark seemed to be everywhere we were - hometown, Cape Cod, DC area - and how weird that was. I had come back to this thread to find the link to send him the article, discovered it was broken, and decided to post a new link because the story was so darn interesting on so many levels.

True.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Va, but I lived in MD when she was killed. I was passing by the lit where she was found not too long ago and thought of her. So sad.
As a parent, I can't imagine why you'd hire a homeless schizophrenic. I just can't.
I had no idea he killed Michelle Dorr too.

How would you know back in 1992? We had difficult times just doing minimal background checks on nanny applicants back then. It was much more difficult to hire and check out help back then without the internet.

They knew he was homeless and very, very odd. Furthermore, Laura tried to tell them that he was creepy, that she was frightened of him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The mother was misguided. I knew people who used to see Hadden in Bethesda and they said he was off.
I am in medicine and I see all sorts of odd people. My advice to all is to NEVER let your guard down, especially if you are lonely or depressed. These folks will seek you and take what ever they want.
BTW, Hadden's own mother was afraid of him. She was the one with sense.
Lauras mother acted like those nuts that go into the woods to befriend a grizzly bear. That is fantasy.

My husband has decided to help a homeless guy he met while on the bike trail. I told him that he can do whatever he wants at the site, but not to give his name, or anything that identifies this family, for exactly the reasons you give.

Thank you. He thinks I'm nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Va, but I lived in MD when she was killed. I was passing by the lit where she was found not too long ago and thought of her. So sad.
As a parent, I can't imagine why you'd hire a homeless schizophrenic. I just can't.
I had no idea he killed Michelle Dorr too.

Hiring them is fine. Inviting them into your home, giving them keys and access to your daughter ? That’s a no-no.

I don't think he had keys but the door wasn't locked and that was how he was able to enter.

I believe he had keys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the link - sorry:

http://reprints.longform.org/a-hole-in-the-ground

Did you really come back 3 years later to post a freaking link correction?

I was discussing this with a friend of mine the day I posted the link, because we were talking about Sarah Pryor, as we grew up in the same area she disappeared from. He and I were discussing how Clark seemed to be everywhere we were - hometown, Cape Cod, DC area - and how weird that was. I had come back to this thread to find the link to send him the article, discovered it was broken, and decided to post a new link because the story was so darn interesting on so many levels.

True.

Oh, it gets weirder! Now I find out her family moved to AZ? Guess where my family retired. I'm telling you? Haunted!!