pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ (lots of typos -- not a morning person)

Can everyone stop making this stupid argument, please? Please find me one vegan blog or cite one vegan person that you know who refuses to BF because it's "milk from a mammal." Veganism generally is concerned with animal products because animals cannot consent to our using them. A BFing mother is consenting. A mother BFing her own child is not in tension at all with veganism.

NP here. I have to agree with the previous PPs that human breast milk is not vegan. The actual substance of human breast milk isn't vegan and could never be defined as vegan. However of course it is not in conflict with the practice of veganism as we know it and never has been.

Think of it this way -- could an adult vegan eat products made from human breast milk or drink human breast milk and still be considered vegan? No.

Now calm down, Ladies. It isn't personal - it is a word definition and nothing more.

[Anonymous]

My DS is allergic to milk and eggs. I BF'd until 18 months and introduced hemp milk at around a year. He absolutely refused all meat so his diet consisted of all kinds of vegetables and fruits with a generous amount of avocados, coconut milk and oil, and various other oils. Protein came from legumes in the form of beans, hummus, etc. and we introduced nuts early on (nut butters in smoothies and so forth). So he was an accidental vegan for the first couple of years. Our pediatrician (out here in the far suburbs, imagine) was very encouraging of his diet and pointed out that for infants and young toddlers, FAT actually trumps protein where nutritional needs are concerned and a vegan diet can easily meet their nutritional needs. If OP wants to feed her child this way I think it's far healthier than a lot of toddler diets - puffs, pasta, nuggets, etc.

[Anonymous]

Dr Razzi in Glover Park. She doesn't take insurance so you have to submit. But she's great with alternative choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ (lots of typos -- not a morning person)

Can everyone stop making this stupid argument, please? Please find me one vegan blog or cite one vegan person that you know who refuses to BF because it's "milk from a mammal." Veganism generally is concerned with animal products because animals cannot consent to our using them. A BFing mother is consenting. A mother BFing her own child is not in tension at all with veganism.

NP here. I have to agree with the previous PPs that human breast milk is not vegan. The actual substance of human breast milk isn't vegan and could never be defined as vegan. However of course it is not in conflict with the practice of veganism as we know it and never has been.

Think of it this way -- could an adult vegan eat products made from human breast milk or drink human breast milk and still be considered vegan? No.

Now calm down, Ladies. It isn't personal - it is a word definition and nothing more.

It's a philosophy not a matter of stupidly defining a word. Frankly, if a vegan adult wanted to drink breast milk from a freely consenting human, I don't think it would actually be un-vegan. But this is a dumb hypothetical because virtually no one does this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ (lots of typos -- not a morning person)

Can everyone stop making this stupid argument, please? Please find me one vegan blog or cite one vegan person that you know who refuses to BF because it's "milk from a mammal." Veganism generally is concerned with animal products because animals cannot consent to our using them. A BFing mother is consenting. A mother BFing her own child is not in tension at all with veganism.

NP here. I have to agree with the previous PPs that human breast milk is not vegan. The actual substance of human breast milk isn't vegan and could never be defined as vegan. However of course it is not in conflict with the practice of veganism as we know it and never has been.

Think of it this way -- could an adult vegan eat products made from human breast milk or drink human breast milk and still be considered vegan? No.

Now calm down, Ladies. It isn't personal - it is a word definition and nothing more.

http://cadryskitchen.com/2013/03/08/clarifying-misconceptions-is-breastfeeding-vegan/

"Is breastfeeding vegan? The short answer is yes."

Mainstream veganism considers BF vegan. You're playing semantics to the point of absurdity.

[Anonymous]

OP I wish you luck but let's be real here, you wanted to stir up some shit and were spoiling for an argument or at least to be able to read an ensuing argument between other parties. A 2 second google search turns up data that 1 million people (and this is from "Vegetarian Times", so at best is the high end of the data) are vegan in the US. Out of over 300million. So you know damn well that in such a limited population that there are absolutely more focused resources and groups online that would be better equipped to handle your question rather than a random grouping of people from the same geographic area. You would be better served to find the info on a nationwide site vegan resource site and narrow down than the other way around and you know that. So this is stirring up shit under the guise of looking for help.

[Anonymous]

Vegetarian mom of a vegetarian almost-3-year-old here. We've seen various peds at the Children's clinic in Foggy Bottom, and our dietary discussions with them have always been open and supportive. FWIW, our son's height/weight have always been >90th percentile, and I have repeatedly heard from his teachers (and other parents) how impressed they were with his willingness to eat/try a variety of foods. That said, I think there will be unique challenges to raising a vegan kid -- so I agree with seeking resources from others who have been there, done that. Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son was vegan for the first 2 years of his life. He was allergic to dairy and eggs, and we are vegetarian, so no meat.

He did very well. He was breastfed (which mean vegan for me--how I missed my cheese!), and when he started solids, he was not picky at all. Avocado, beans, oatmeal. Calcium fortified foods. Everything covered in olive oil, and coconut milk as a drink--tons of fat in there. He did great.

By 2, the allergy to dairy passed, though he is still sensitive to eggs, so we added dairy in. But he was fine without it.

My point is children, babies especially, can be vegan and absolutely thrive, in spite of the strange straw man above trying to insist breastmilk isn't vegan. What is the point there, anyway?

What did you do about vitamin B for your child?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP I wish you luck but let's be real here, you wanted to stir up some shit and were spoiling for an argument or at least to be able to read an ensuing argument between other parties. A 2 second google search turns up data that 1 million people (and this is from "Vegetarian Times", so at best is the high end of the data) are vegan in the US. Out of over 300million. So you know damn well that in such a limited population that there are absolutely more focused resources and groups online that would be better equipped to handle your question rather than a random grouping of people from the same geographic area. You would be better served to find the info on a nationwide site vegan resource site and narrow down than the other way around and you know that. So this is stirring up shit under the guise of looking for help.

Oh, okay, DCUM police! I'd venture that the majority of the questions on this board could be solved with a Google search. But let's pick on the vegan lady!

[Anonymous]

As a pediatrician I would certainly report you to CPS for child abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a pediatrician I would certainly report you to CPS for child abuse.

I'd report you for malpractice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a pediatrician I would certainly report you to CPS for child abuse.

You would report a family to CPS for feeding the baby breast milk and vegan solid foods (at the appropriate age)?

Could you please post solid medical evidence that breast milk plus vegan solid foods (at the appropriate age) is an inadequate diet for babies?

Could you also please post your name? I'd like to avoid your practice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a pediatrician I would certainly report you to CPS for child abuse.

I'd report you for malpractice.

Lol, that's not how it works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a pediatrician I would certainly report you to CPS for child abuse.

I'd report you for malpractice.

Lol, that's not how it works.

Lol back at you. Reporting a parent to CPS for feeding kids vegan is also "not how it works," but, hey, since we're lodging unfounded complaints against each other, enjoy defending my malpractice suit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a pediatrician I would certainly report you to CPS for child abuse.

If an individual came to you asking about how to safely pursue a vegan diet for an infant, you would report them to CPS simply for asking? I'm not even in favor of vegan diets for infants and find that a bit extreme. Until the child shows issues or the parents at least balks at/rejects your suggestions, what basis would you have for reporting - they asked a question I didn't like that might cause health issues down the road?