What went down at CMI yesterday?

[Anonymous]

Typical or not, there are not many scenarios that I can reasonably think of which involve an individual situatioj amd would result in the closure of an entire school. There also is a double standard at play. The Dump the Cluster thread contained slot of very specific identifying information relating to the Beauvoir of students which resulted in a police response and disciplinary action (or lack of same). I don't recall Jeff trying to shut that down.

[Anonymous]

Beauvoir = behavior. Sorry.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Typical or not, there are not many scenarios that I can reasonably think of which involve an individual situatioj amd would result in the closure of an entire school. There also is a double standard at play. The Dump the Cluster thread contained slot of very specific identifying information relating to the Beauvoir of students which resulted in a police response and disciplinary action (or lack of same). I don't recall Jeff trying to shut that down.

Well, if you had been with me when I spent hours deleting posts from that thread, you would probably recall it. That was like a 100 page thread. I also locked one or more of the cluster threads because of the constant personal information being disclosed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Typical or not, there are not many scenarios that I can reasonably think of which involve an individual situatioj amd would result in the closure of an entire school. There also is a double standard at play. The Dump the Cluster thread contained slot of very specific identifying information relating to the Beauvoir of students which resulted in a police response and disciplinary action (or lack of same). I don't recall Jeff trying to shut that down.

I don't remember the thread you reference, so can't comment on "double standards," but I don't see any reason for censoring posters simply asking why a public school had to close.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typical or not, there are not many scenarios that I can reasonably think of which involve an individual situatioj amd would result in the closure of an entire school. There also is a double standard at play. The Dump the Cluster thread contained slot of very specific identifying information relating to the Beauvoir of students which resulted in a police response and disciplinary action (or lack of same). I don't recall Jeff trying to shut that down.

I don't remember the thread you reference, so can't comment on "double standards," but I don't see any reason for censoring posters simply asking why a public school had to close.

The problem is not that posters "simply asked", but that won't accept the answer they were given. There may be valid reasons for keeping quiet or there may not be. Either way, reacting like sharks scenting blood in the water is not going to help the situation.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My point is this - the response is overly simplistic. And, while I appreciate Jeff's efforts and the forum, the mere fact that Jeff has an opinion doesn't mean the matter is settled (maybe I'm wrong and I'll be banned, in which case I guess I misunderstand the forum). There's a difference between naming children and or providing information that could identify a specific student and providing a general description that is relevant to a whole host of constituencies. Unless of course those issues are only relevant when it is a predominantly black school...

Just so that there is no misunderstanding, my opinion about what is appropriate to be posted matters a great deal. If you post something that I don't think is appropriate, I will delete it. I have no idea whether what happened at the school would or would not be appropriate to post. But, I am willing to respect the silence of those who do know.

It is pretty obvious that this thread is becoming a feeding frenzy and itself becoming a negative factor. As such, I may soon choose to lock or delete this thread. So, don't be surprised if or when that occurs.

If you read my post you'll see I didn't say your opinion didn't matter, or that it didn't matter a great deal. If you close this down (which I fully expect, as well as an expectation that you'll delete this post) then it is settled. But as long as it is open it is fair to ask whether personal information (which I might note I specifically mentioned would not be appropriate) is the same thing as general information about what type of activity might close a school.

[Anonymous]

If u don't have kids at the school why do you care so damn much? If you're wait listed - ask when u get in, otherwise I can't find a rational reason as to why YOU should know anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If u don't have kids at the school why do you care so damn much? If you're wait listed - ask when u get in, otherwise I can't find a rational reason as to why YOU should know anything.

If you wait to ask after you've already gotten into the school, aren't you too late? The whole point is that you want to know the safety profile of the school BEFORE you get in, so you can choose not to go if you feel uncomfortable.

[Anonymous]

Does anybody seriously think that an isolated incident that involved police has long-term bearing on whether or not the school is safe for someone who is going to be entering the school in September?

And if such an isolated incident is actually enough to make someone decide not to attend the school, I bet there are a lot of other people on the wait list happy to take the resulting available spot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If u don't have kids at the school why do you care so damn much? If you're wait listed - ask when u get in, otherwise I can't find a rational reason as to why YOU should know anything.

If you wait to ask after you've already gotten into the school, aren't you too late? The whole point is that you want to know the safety profile of the school BEFORE you get in, so you can choose not to go if you feel uncomfortable.

+1. Pretty obvious. And pretty strange, when people attack the obvious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If u don't have kids at the school why do you care so damn much? If you're wait listed - ask when u get in, otherwise I can't find a rational reason as to why YOU should know anything.

I'm going to assume you just don't understand what the word "rational" means.

adjective 1. based on or in accordance with reason or logic.

Reason and logic would lead someone who is on a WL to want information about the school to which they might send their kid, especially if it involves safety or the well being of children in attendance. Reason and logic would cause someone to conduct diligence before they were accepted because families have only 72 hours from the time they are pulled off of a waitlist, instead of waiting until their WL was called. Reason and logic would cause a neighbor to want to know if there was a risk tot he community being presented.

I find it amusing that the DCUM crowd has no problem blasting Watkins for "all the safety and other issues" but that somehow CMI is off limits. Can someone please tell me what % white makes it off limits? I'd like to better understand the rules of the forum.

[Anonymous]

If you're that concerned, why don't you call the Charter Board or the school itself? Or as someone you know who sends kids there?

[Anonymous]

This is beginning to sound like the thread about the woman whose 11 year old had done SOMETHING that caused $3K in damage...but wouldn't tell us what.

Here are my guesses:
1) Custody dispute with threats
2) Staff medical issue that was either messy or scary for kids
3) Trespassing and now they need to make sure all doors are secure
4) Staff problem and now they need to change all the locks

AmIClose?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anybody seriously think that an isolated incident that involved police has long-term bearing on whether or not the school is safe for someone who is going to be entering the school in September?

And if such an isolated incident is actually enough to make someone decide not to attend the school, I bet there are a lot of other people on the wait list happy to take the resulting available spot.

How would you know if it was isolated if the information isn't disseminated? Your second sentence is non-responsive and nonsensical. What's your point? That parents shouldn't ask questions about schools because someone else wants the spot? So would it be ok for a parent to ask about suspensions? A dip in test scores? There's almost nothing in the education forums that wouldn't fall into your ridiculous category.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If u don't have kids at the school why do you care so damn much? If you're wait listed - ask when u get in, otherwise I can't find a rational reason as to why YOU should know anything.

Uh, because it's a public school that receives its funding from taxes we all pay. It's a bad way to handle this from a PR perspective and leads to raised suspicions. While I'm curious, I can't say that I care all that much. Just don't throw out bogus reasons for not being more forthcoming.