What went down at CMI yesterday?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent at cmi, you know as much as us. Like Jeff mentioned, please respect our silence and back off and just wait. It really is not your place unless you have child attending cmi.

What if I have a kid on WL for the school? Or a 2 year old and I'm thinking about school for 16-17? Or I am a grandparent of a child there? Or a neighbor who could be impacted by threats of violence there? Options PCS's issues have been terrorizing that neighborhood for a few years; should those residents mind their own business too?

My point is this - the response is overly simplistic. And, while I appreciate Jeff's efforts and the forum, the mere fact that Jeff has an opinion doesn't mean the matter is settled (maybe I'm wrong and I'll be banned, in which case I guess I misunderstand the forum). There's a difference between naming children and or providing information that could identify a specific student and providing a general description that is relevant to a whole host of constituencies. Unless of course those issues are only relevant when it is a predominantly black school...

I totally agree with this. A family that is considering this school should have all the information to make an informed decision. The safety of one's children is a BIG factor. Current parents can provide some information without revealing identities, private data, sensitive information, what have you. But the silence and the fact that the school was closed today is only going to raise more eyebrows and blow this whole thing out of proportion if that hasn't already occurred.

PP who commented about reasons why police might be at a school. No children at the school. Maybe its a confusing situation with conflicting or unclear pieces. In that case, putting out information may not be the best course of action. You don't have a right to a full report within 24 hours. Give them time to be sure they have things right before they make any public statements.

We don't live in the Soviet Union or in China. We live in the USA, where the public has a right to know. Silence only compounds problems.

[Anonymous]

Custody issues don't close the school down the following day unless the parent said "I'm going to blow this bitch up if I don't get my child"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent at cmi, you know as much as us. Like Jeff mentioned, please respect our silence and back off and just wait. It really is not your place unless you have child attending cmi.

What if I have a kid on WL for the school? Or a 2 year old and I'm thinking about school for 16-17? Or I am a grandparent of a child there? Or a neighbor who could be impacted by threats of violence there? Options PCS's issues have been terrorizing that neighborhood for a few years; should those residents mind their own business too?

My point is this - the response is overly simplistic. And, while I appreciate Jeff's efforts and the forum, the mere fact that Jeff has an opinion doesn't mean the matter is settled (maybe I'm wrong and I'll be banned, in which case I guess I misunderstand the forum). There's a difference between naming children and or providing information that could identify a specific student and providing a general description that is relevant to a whole host of constituencies. Unless of course those issues are only relevant when it is a predominantly black school...

I totally agree with this. A family that is considering this school should have all the information to make an informed decision. The safety of one's children is a BIG factor. Current parents can provide some information without revealing identities, private data, sensitive information, what have you. But the silence and the fact that the school was closed today is only going to raise more eyebrows and blow this whole thing out of proportion if that hasn't already occurred.

PP who commented about reasons why police might be at a school. No children at the school. Maybe its a confusing situation with conflicting or unclear pieces. In that case, putting out information may not be the best course of action. You don't have a right to a full report within 24 hours. Give them time to be sure they have things right before they make any public statements.

We don't live in the Soviet Union or in China. We live in the USA, where the public has a right to know. Silence only compounds problems.

The public does not have a right to know specifically what police were doing at a school. Not in the Soviet Union. Not in China. Not here. Don't be ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent at cmi, you know as much as us. Like Jeff mentioned, please respect our silence and back off and just wait. It really is not your place unless you have child attending cmi.

What if I have a kid on WL for the school? Or a 2 year old and I'm thinking about school for 16-17? Or I am a grandparent of a child there? Or a neighbor who could be impacted by threats of violence there? Options PCS's issues have been terrorizing that neighborhood for a few years; should those residents mind their own business too?

My point is this - the response is overly simplistic. And, while I appreciate Jeff's efforts and the forum, the mere fact that Jeff has an opinion doesn't mean the matter is settled (maybe I'm wrong and I'll be banned, in which case I guess I misunderstand the forum). There's a difference between naming children and or providing information that could identify a specific student and providing a general description that is relevant to a whole host of constituencies. Unless of course those issues are only relevant when it is a predominantly black school...

Then you are welcome to contact the school or police to get whatever answers are available.

Privacy issues aside, "because I don't want to" is a good enough reason for someone to decline to discuss on a message board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent at cmi, you know as much as us. Like Jeff mentioned, please respect our silence and back off and just wait. It really is not your place unless you have child attending cmi.

What if I have a kid on WL for the school? Or a 2 year old and I'm thinking about school for 16-17? Or I am a grandparent of a child there? Or a neighbor who could be impacted by threats of violence there? Options PCS's issues have been terrorizing that neighborhood for a few years; should those residents mind their own business too?

My point is this - the response is overly simplistic. And, while I appreciate Jeff's efforts and the forum, the mere fact that Jeff has an opinion doesn't mean the matter is settled (maybe I'm wrong and I'll be banned, in which case I guess I misunderstand the forum). There's a difference between naming children and or providing information that could identify a specific student and providing a general description that is relevant to a whole host of constituencies. Unless of course those issues are only relevant when it is a predominantly black school...

Then you are welcome to contact the school or police to get whatever answers are available.

Privacy issues aside, "because I don't want to" is a good enough reason for someone to decline to discuss on a message board.

The school is closed today

[Anonymous]

sure, if you don't want to post about it, don't post. But come on, someone's gotta crack.

I am interested just as a mom with a child at a dcpcs who wants to get a handle on the kind of issues I may face as part of an urban school district. I like to think through possibilities ahead of time. This isn't gawking at CMI in particular and I certainly don't want any kids gossiped about or identified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent at cmi, you know as much as us. Like Jeff mentioned, please respect our silence and back off and just wait. It really is not your place unless you have child attending cmi.

What if I have a kid on WL for the school? Or a 2 year old and I'm thinking about school for 16-17? Or I am a grandparent of a child there? Or a neighbor who could be impacted by threats of violence there? Options PCS's issues have been terrorizing that neighborhood for a few years; should those residents mind their own business too?

My point is this - the response is overly simplistic. And, while I appreciate Jeff's efforts and the forum, the mere fact that Jeff has an opinion doesn't mean the matter is settled (maybe I'm wrong and I'll be banned, in which case I guess I misunderstand the forum). There's a difference between naming children and or providing information that could identify a specific student and providing a general description that is relevant to a whole host of constituencies. Unless of course those issues are only relevant when it is a predominantly black school...

I totally agree with this. A family that is considering this school should have all the information to make an informed decision. The safety of one's children is a BIG factor. Current parents can provide some information without revealing identities, private data, sensitive information, what have you. But the silence and the fact that the school was closed today is only going to raise more eyebrows and blow this whole thing out of proportion if that hasn't already occurred.

PP who commented about reasons why police might be at a school. No children at the school. Maybe its a confusing situation with conflicting or unclear pieces. In that case, putting out information may not be the best course of action. You don't have a right to a full report within 24 hours. Give them time to be sure they have things right before they make any public statements.

We don't live in the Soviet Union or in China. We live in the USA, where the public has a right to know. Silence only compounds problems.

The public does not have a right to know specifically what police were doing at a school. Not in the Soviet Union. Not in China. Not here. Don't be ridiculous.

The question is not what specifically the police did, but why a taxpayer-funded school was closed. This is obviously a matter of public record. Having said that, it is true that no one can force anonymous DCUM posters to share anything...but silence just makes the whole thing looks much more suspicious, and reflect bad on a good PUBLIC school like CMI.

[Anonymous]

The irony is that current parents who do know what's going on and not saying anything are only piquing everyone's interests and making this into what is probably a bigger issue than it really is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent at cmi, you know as much as us. Like Jeff mentioned, please respect our silence and back off and just wait. It really is not your place unless you have child attending cmi.

What if I have a kid on WL for the school? Or a 2 year old and I'm thinking about school for 16-17? Or I am a grandparent of a child there? Or a neighbor who could be impacted by threats of violence there? Options PCS's issues have been terrorizing that neighborhood for a few years; should those residents mind their own business too?

My point is this - the response is overly simplistic. And, while I appreciate Jeff's efforts and the forum, the mere fact that Jeff has an opinion doesn't mean the matter is settled (maybe I'm wrong and I'll be banned, in which case I guess I misunderstand the forum). There's a difference between naming children and or providing information that could identify a specific student and providing a general description that is relevant to a whole host of constituencies. Unless of course those issues are only relevant when it is a predominantly black school...

Then you are welcome to contact the school or police to get whatever answers are available.

Privacy issues aside, "because I don't want to" is a good enough reason for someone to decline to discuss on a message board.

Indeed. I am also welcome to articulate my position here and point out the fact that the arguments against disclosing any information are nonsense. I am also welcome to ask my dog, my cat, or the woman in the cube next to mine. I am also welcome to open my window and scream the question to the neighboring building. Do you want to help me make a complete list? Can I call Obama? Putin? The NY Yankees?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent at cmi, you know as much as us. Like Jeff mentioned, please respect our silence and back off and just wait. It really is not your place unless you have child attending cmi.

What if I have a kid on WL for the school? Or a 2 year old and I'm thinking about school for 16-17? Or I am a grandparent of a child there? Or a neighbor who could be impacted by threats of violence there? Options PCS's issues have been terrorizing that neighborhood for a few years; should those residents mind their own business too?

My point is this - the response is overly simplistic. And, while I appreciate Jeff's efforts and the forum, the mere fact that Jeff has an opinion doesn't mean the matter is settled (maybe I'm wrong and I'll be banned, in which case I guess I misunderstand the forum). There's a difference between naming children and or providing information that could identify a specific student and providing a general description that is relevant to a whole host of constituencies. Unless of course those issues are only relevant when it is a predominantly black school...

Then you are welcome to contact the school or police to get whatever answers are available.

Privacy issues aside, "because I don't want to" is a good enough reason for someone to decline to discuss on a message board.

The school is closed today

Points for bringing the funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The irony is that current parents who do know what's going on and not saying anything are only piquing everyone's interests and making this into what is probably a bigger issue than it really is.

Yep, what people are not imagining is way worse, I'm sure, than what happened. Molestation by a teacher? Columbine style plot?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent at cmi, you know as much as us. Like Jeff mentioned, please respect our silence and back off and just wait. It really is not your place unless you have child attending cmi.

What if I have a kid on WL for the school? Or a 2 year old and I'm thinking about school for 16-17? Or I am a grandparent of a child there? Or a neighbor who could be impacted by threats of violence there? Options PCS's issues have been terrorizing that neighborhood for a few years; should those residents mind their own business too?

My point is this - the response is overly simplistic. And, while I appreciate Jeff's efforts and the forum, the mere fact that Jeff has an opinion doesn't mean the matter is settled (maybe I'm wrong and I'll be banned, in which case I guess I misunderstand the forum). There's a difference between naming children and or providing information that could identify a specific student and providing a general description that is relevant to a whole host of constituencies. Unless of course those issues are only relevant when it is a predominantly black school...

Then you are welcome to contact the school or police to get whatever answers are available.

Privacy issues aside, "because I don't want to" is a good enough reason for someone to decline to discuss on a message board.

The school is closed today

Har har. And Grandma from the scenario above will hopefully live until Monday to file her FOIA request then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:sure, if you don't want to post about it, don't post. But come on, someone's gotta crack.

I am interested just as a mom with a child at a dcpcs who wants to get a handle on the kind of issues I may face as part of an urban school district. I like to think through possibilities ahead of time. This isn't gawking at CMI in particular and I certainly don't want any kids gossiped about or identified.

My child doesn't go to CMI.

The most disturbing thing that my child has experienced at her high poverty DCPS was observing the parent of a child in her class screaming violent obscenities at someone on the phone and then also screaming at her child, who was cowering next to her. The mother is almost always on the phone and it's never a good conversation. DD was really upset by what she overheard because no adults in her experience talk to each other that way. This was in like September and she still mentions it from time to time.

When there was that earthquake a few years ago, DD was in daycare and it was scary for a little bit because I wasn't sure where they had evacuated to, exactly, and when every building on the block was evacuated, there were a lot of people in the street.

There was also the situation with the active shooter in Navy Yard that affected schools for a little bit last year (or the year before? I can't remember).

My point is that we all experience things on a daily basis that might seem abnormal or scary to someone living somewhere else. If you send your child to public school in the city, they are likely to observe poverty. They are likely to hear obscene language. I grew up in a small town and I experienced all of those things in school as well. The police getting called to CMI is probably related to an individual situation, rather than something that you can extrapolate as a typical experience in an urban school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent at cmi, you know as much as us. Like Jeff mentioned, please respect our silence and back off and just wait. It really is not your place unless you have child attending cmi.

What if I have a kid on WL for the school? Or a 2 year old and I'm thinking about school for 16-17? Or I am a grandparent of a child there? Or a neighbor who could be impacted by threats of violence there? Options PCS's issues have been terrorizing that neighborhood for a few years; should those residents mind their own business too?

My point is this - the response is overly simplistic. And, while I appreciate Jeff's efforts and the forum, the mere fact that Jeff has an opinion doesn't mean the matter is settled (maybe I'm wrong and I'll be banned, in which case I guess I misunderstand the forum). There's a difference between naming children and or providing information that could identify a specific student and providing a general description that is relevant to a whole host of constituencies. Unless of course those issues are only relevant when it is a predominantly black school...

I totally agree with this. A family that is considering this school should have all the information to make an informed decision. The safety of one's children is a BIG factor. Current parents can provide some information without revealing identities, private data, sensitive information, what have you. But the silence and the fact that the school was closed today is only going to raise more eyebrows and blow this whole thing out of proportion if that hasn't already occurred.

PP who commented about reasons why police might be at a school. No children at the school. Maybe its a confusing situation with conflicting or unclear pieces. In that case, putting out information may not be the best course of action. You don't have a right to a full report within 24 hours. Give them time to be sure they have things right before they make any public statements.

We don't live in the Soviet Union or in China. We live in the USA, where the public has a right to know. Silence only compounds problems.

The public does not have a right to know specifically what police were doing at a school. Not in the Soviet Union. Not in China. Not here. Don't be ridiculous.

The question is not what specifically the police did, but why a taxpayer-funded school was closed. This is obviously a matter of public record. Having said that, it is true that no one can force anonymous DCUM posters to share anything...but silence just makes the whole thing looks much more suspicious, and reflect bad on a good PUBLIC school like CMI.

I actually don't think it looks suspicious at all for parents at the school to say, "It was an internal matter, please respect our privacy at the moment." Regardless of who pays for the school.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:My point is this - the response is overly simplistic. And, while I appreciate Jeff's efforts and the forum, the mere fact that Jeff has an opinion doesn't mean the matter is settled (maybe I'm wrong and I'll be banned, in which case I guess I misunderstand the forum). There's a difference between naming children and or providing information that could identify a specific student and providing a general description that is relevant to a whole host of constituencies. Unless of course those issues are only relevant when it is a predominantly black school...

Just so that there is no misunderstanding, my opinion about what is appropriate to be posted matters a great deal. If you post something that I don't think is appropriate, I will delete it. I have no idea whether what happened at the school would or would not be appropriate to post. But, I am willing to respect the silence of those who do know.

It is pretty obvious that this thread is becoming a feeding frenzy and itself becoming a negative factor. As such, I may soon choose to lock or delete this thread. So, don't be surprised if or when that occurs.