SUV drivers are responsible for giving the president's daughter asthma

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

I'm arguing about expensive legislation and blame to get that legislation passed


A Cap and Trade approach to fighting global warming would not be that costly, and some of the cost would be offset by benefits other than fighting climate change. For example reducing conventional air pollution. Which among other things can trigger asthma.

That is really not that controversial, except among people who are infuriated by any argument saying that limits on GHG emissions will not be that costly.
Anonymous
I remember when conssrvatives supported cap and trade.
Anonymous
"Keep in mind that climate change is just one more example of how the environment will cause health problems, and I think most people understand that,” the president responded.

This is correct. Climate change is an environmental problem that will imact public health. In that, it is much like conventional air pollution. Which can, for example, cause asthma.

Too subtle for the press to understand, I guess.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I remember when conssrvatives supported cap and trade.


I would say real conservatives still do. I for example think its a good idea, because it leverages the power of the market, the power of enterprise, and price as a signal. All things I believe in, which always used to drive my lefty friends crazy.

Now all the so called conservatives think I am socialist, and my lefty friends are busy worrying about gender neutral bathrooms.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just to clarify, it's the SUV that I drive, not the SUV's that her security detail drives when they're behind the first family 24/7.

It's mine, not theirs, right?

How many MPG's is the "tank" getting these days?


+1

Cadillac One + 10 Suburbans + 20 Crown Victorias driven for one mile =much more pollution than one suv driven for 50 miles.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just to clarify, it's the SUV that I drive, not the SUV's that her security detail drives when they're behind the first family 24/7.

It's mine, not theirs, right?

How many MPG's is the "tank" getting these days?


+1

Cadillac One + 10 Suburbans + 20 Crown Victorias driven for one mile =much more pollution than one suv driven for 50 miles.



Right, so the President should travel alone in a Prius, because no matter how stupid that sounds, he must prostrate himself in order to credibly care about carbon emissions. Because security is just this unnecessary perk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just to clarify, it's the SUV that I drive, not the SUV's that her security detail drives when they're behind the first family 24/7.

It's mine, not theirs, right?

How many MPG's is the "tank" getting these days?


+1

Cadillac One + 10 Suburbans + 20 Crown Victorias driven for one mile =much more pollution than one suv driven for 50 miles.



Right, so the President should travel alone in a Prius, because no matter how stupid that sounds, he must prostrate himself in order to credibly care about carbon emissions. Because security is just this unnecessary perk.

No he should turn off the lights, have no computers or electrical devices because the production of electricity has the highest emissions. An electric car, unless it is powered up by only solar panels, pollutes more than a car powered by fossil fuels.

Air travel causes more air pollution than cars so he should ground AF1.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just to clarify, it's the SUV that I drive, not the SUV's that her security detail drives when they're behind the first family 24/7.

It's mine, not theirs, right?

How many MPG's is the "tank" getting these days?


+1

Cadillac One + 10 Suburbans + 20 Crown Victorias driven for one mile =much more pollution than one suv driven for 50 miles.



Right, so the President should travel alone in a Prius, because no matter how stupid that sounds, he must prostrate himself in order to credibly care about carbon emissions. Because security is just this unnecessary perk.


Hyperbole helps no one PP. There are plenty of steps, practical and symbolic that he could take if he wanted to
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know if asthma is an ADA recognized disability? Google doesn't give me a definite answer.


https://www.aafa.org/display.cfm?id=9&sub=19&cont=255



That article is unclear.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I remember when conssrvatives supported cap and trade.


I would say real conservatives still do. I for example think its a good idea, because it leverages the power of the market, the power of enterprise, and price as a signal. All things I believe in, which always used to drive my lefty friends crazy.

Now all the so called conservatives think I am socialist, and my lefty friends are busy worrying about gender neutral bathrooms.


Right. Decadent times we live in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just to clarify, it's the SUV that I drive, not the SUV's that her security detail drives when they're behind the first family 24/7.

It's mine, not theirs, right?

How many MPG's is the "tank" getting these days?


+1

Cadillac One + 10 Suburbans + 20 Crown Victorias driven for one mile =much more pollution than one suv driven for 50 miles.



Right, so the President should travel alone in a Prius, because no matter how stupid that sounds, he must prostrate himself in order to credibly care about carbon emissions. Because security is just this unnecessary perk.

No he should turn off the lights, have no computers or electrical devices because the production of electricity has the highest emissions. An electric car, unless it is powered up by only solar panels, pollutes more than a car powered by fossil fuels.

Air travel causes more air pollution than cars so he should ground AF1.


The bolded part is false, BTW. Even with coal fired power plants plug in electrics are good, because they are more efficient than internal combustion engines.

Also of course your whole post is silly. The President did not say no one should drive an SUV. He said that environmental regulations will help us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just to clarify, it's the SUV that I drive, not the SUV's that her security detail drives when they're behind the first family 24/7.

It's mine, not theirs, right?

How many MPG's is the "tank" getting these days?


+1

Cadillac One + 10 Suburbans + 20 Crown Victorias driven for one mile =much more pollution than one suv driven for 50 miles.



Right, so the President should travel alone in a Prius, because no matter how stupid that sounds, he must prostrate himself in order to credibly care about carbon emissions. Because security is just this unnecessary perk.


Hyperbole helps no one PP. There are plenty of steps, practical and symbolic that he could take if he wanted to


The biggest things he could do, would be to limit the building of new coal fired power plants, encourage more renewables - oh wait, never mind.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just to clarify, it's the SUV that I drive, not the SUV's that her security detail drives when they're behind the first family 24/7.

It's mine, not theirs, right?

How many MPG's is the "tank" getting these days?


+1

Cadillac One + 10 Suburbans + 20 Crown Victorias driven for one mile =much more pollution than one suv driven for 50 miles.



Right, so the President should travel alone in a Prius, because no matter how stupid that sounds, he must prostrate himself in order to credibly care about carbon emissions. Because security is just this unnecessary perk.


Hyperbole helps no one PP. There are plenty of steps, practical and symbolic that he could take if he wanted to


You mean like installing solar panels on the White House roof? Check.

BTW Carter put solar panels on the roof, but Reagan threw them out. What's the symbolism of that?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just to clarify, it's the SUV that I drive, not the SUV's that her security detail drives when they're behind the first family 24/7.

It's mine, not theirs, right?

How many MPG's is the "tank" getting these days?


+1

Cadillac One + 10 Suburbans + 20 Crown Victorias driven for one mile =much more pollution than one suv driven for 50 miles.



Right, so the President should travel alone in a Prius, because no matter how stupid that sounds, he must prostrate himself in order to credibly care about carbon emissions. Because security is just this unnecessary perk.


Hyperbole helps no one PP. There are plenty of steps, practical and symbolic that he could take if he wanted to


You mean like installing solar panels on the White House roof? Check.

BTW Carter put solar panels on the roof, but Reagan threw them out. What's the symbolism of that?



Jimmy Cartee and solar panels? Wow. Thanks old timer.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can second hand smoke trigger asthma?


It can cause asthma. Parents who smoke increase the likelihood than their infants will develop asthma. It can also trigger asthma attacks.


The President smokes like a chimney. I wonder if he has considered that he is the most likely cause of the asthma.


Not to mention that the Presidemt and his family often ride around in armored, heavied-up SUVs, surrounded by a convoy of numerous other SUVs carrying Secret Service, aides and other staff.
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