If you are at a "HRCS" or "JKLM", would you/will you send your child to Wilson

[Anonymous]

We're probably not going to do Wilson, too big... we prefer a smaller/friendlier/more intimate environment.

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Anonymous wrote:I probably would not if my kids were old enough today. But they have a while until high school age and I'm hoping I'm sold on the school by then.

This. We are in ES now. Deal looks good as of today. We are hoping Wilson improves by the time we get there. I am optimistic that it will. I think some of Wilson's improvement is inevitable, but some of it depends on progress at Hardy (IB buy in), which is more of a wild card.

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Anonymous wrote:I am struggling with this. Do we stay in the city knowing we would want to at least consider private for MS/HS? Or cut and run to goid suburban schools now...

Run now. If it is currently creating an internal debate, you will never be satisfied if you stay.

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Anonymous wrote:I probably would not if my kids were old enough today. But they have a while until high school age and I'm hoping I'm sold on the school by then.

This. We are in ES now. Deal looks good as of today. We are hoping Wilson improves by the time we get there. I am optimistic that it will. I think some of Wilson's improvement is inevitable, but some of it depends on progress at Hardy (IB buy in), which is more of a wild card.

Hardy is not a wild card for Wilson. The kids coming out of Hardy are fine. According to my SIL who graduated from Wilson, most of the problems stemmed from the kids who came from SW and were zoned for Wilson. If I am not mistaken, SW was cut out of Wilson with the new boundary change. I will recheck this, but correct me if I am wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I probably would not if my kids were old enough today. But they have a while until high school age and I'm hoping I'm sold on the school by then.

This. We are in ES now. Deal looks good as of today. We are hoping Wilson improves by the time we get there. I am optimistic that it will. I think some of Wilson's improvement is inevitable, but some of it depends on progress at Hardy (IB buy in), which is more of a wild card.

Hardy is not a wild card for Wilson. The kids coming out of Hardy are fine. According to my SIL who graduated from Wilson, most of the problems stemmed from the kids who came from SW and were zoned for Wilson. If I am not mistaken, SW was cut out of Wilson with the new boundary change. I will recheck this, but correct me if I am wrong.

You are correct. What you're missing is the fact that Hardy is still sending brown kids to Wilson. When these posters are saying "We are waiting on Wilson to improve", they really mean we are waiting for it to start looking more like WOTP demographics. White student performance is beyond excellent at Wilson. These people want it to be less than 30% black so they can start feeling comfortable sending their kid there. You'll see it all over the threads, referring to the "thugs" at Wilson. Watch, it'll start in 5,4,3,2____

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am struggling with this. Do we stay in the city knowing we would want to at least consider private for MS/HS? Or cut and run to goid suburban schools now...

Run now. If it is currently creating an internal debate, you will never be satisfied if you stay.

PP, is there something you are not satisfied with? Are you sending your kids to Wilson?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I probably would not if my kids were old enough today. But they have a while until high school age and I'm hoping I'm sold on the school by then.

This. We are in ES now. Deal looks good as of today. We are hoping Wilson improves by the time we get there. I am optimistic that it will. I think some of Wilson's improvement is inevitable, but some of it depends on progress at Hardy (IB buy in), which is more of a wild card.

Hardy is not a wild card for Wilson. The kids coming out of Hardy are fine. According to my SIL who graduated from Wilson, most of the problems stemmed from the kids who came from SW and were zoned for Wilson. If I am not mistaken, SW was cut out of Wilson with the new boundary change. I will recheck this, but correct me if I am wrong.

I'll respond to your post and ignore the predictable race-baiting in the post that followed it. Mine is the second post above.

First, yes you are correct about the boundary change. But I don't know about this issue of SW students causing "most of the problems" because I don't know if you and I are talking about the same problems. I am mostly although not entirely concerned with academic performance.

If you look at test scores just as one measure, you see that Wilson is similar to Hardy and Deal is a cut above. Deal and Hardy are the two feeders. Therefore it is reasonable to think that the Deal graduates bring Wilson's scores up and the Hardy graduates balance them out (down). But Wilson's boundary was larger than the combined boundary of Hardy and Deal, plus it has always had a lot of OOB, so I concede that maybe I am being too simplistic here. In any event, for those IB for Deal, there is a clear performance difference between Deal and Wilson.

The usual reply from Wilson supporters is that there are two tracks at Wilson, aka Yale and jail, so you should just look at the subset of the school that applies to your kid. Thanks for the advice, but I'll still consider the whole school.

[Anonymous]

It took me a minute to find an old boundary map, but I was correct...SW was zoned out of Wilson. I believe SW was the only area that contained low income housing in the previous Wilson boundary (I will double check that when I get a minute). For better or worse (depending on your perspective), those low SES children no longer have access Wilson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I probably would not if my kids were old enough today. But they have a while until high school age and I'm hoping I'm sold on the school by then.

This. We are in ES now. Deal looks good as of today. We are hoping Wilson improves by the time we get there. I am optimistic that it will. I think some of Wilson's improvement is inevitable, but some of it depends on progress at Hardy (IB buy in), which is more of a wild card.

Hardy is not a wild card for Wilson. The kids coming out of Hardy are fine. According to my SIL who graduated from Wilson, most of the problems stemmed from the kids who came from SW and were zoned for Wilson. If I am not mistaken, SW was cut out of Wilson with the new boundary change. I will recheck this, but correct me if I am wrong.

You are correct. What you're missing is the fact that Hardy is still sending brown kids to Wilson. When these posters are saying "We are waiting on Wilson to improve", they really mean we are waiting for it to start looking more like WOTP demographics. White student performance is beyond excellent at Wilson. These people want it to be less than 30% black so they can start feeling comfortable sending their kid there. You'll see it all over the threads, referring to the "thugs" at Wilson. Watch, it'll start in 5,4,3,2____

Actually my hesitation with Wilson right now is that it is exploding in size, with about 1,900 kids in a building only built for 1,550, and a city that is slashing its funds. I am looking ahead and worrying where Wilson is going more than I worry where it is and has been.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I probably would not if my kids were old enough today. But they have a while until high school age and I'm hoping I'm sold on the school by then.

This. We are in ES now. Deal looks good as of today. We are hoping Wilson improves by the time we get there. I am optimistic that it will. I think some of Wilson's improvement is inevitable, but some of it depends on progress at Hardy (IB buy in), which is more of a wild card.

Hardy is not a wild card for Wilson. The kids coming out of Hardy are fine. According to my SIL who graduated from Wilson, most of the problems stemmed from the kids who came from SW and were zoned for Wilson. If I am not mistaken, SW was cut out of Wilson with the new boundary change. I will recheck this, but correct me if I am wrong.

I'll respond to your post and ignore the predictable race-baiting in the post that followed it. Mine is the second post above.

First, yes you are correct about the boundary change. But I don't know about this issue of SW students causing "most of the problems" because I don't know if you and I are talking about the same problems. I am mostly although not entirely concerned with academic performance.

If you look at test scores just as one measure, you see that Wilson is similar to Hardy and Deal is a cut above. Deal and Hardy are the two feeders. Therefore it is reasonable to think that the Deal graduates bring Wilson's scores up and the Hardy graduates balance them out (down). But Wilson's boundary was larger than the combined boundary of Hardy and Deal, plus it has always had a lot of OOB, so I concede that maybe I am being too simplistic here. In any event, for those IB for Deal, there is a clear performance difference between Deal and Wilson.

The usual reply from Wilson supporters is that there are two tracks at Wilson, aka Yale and jail, so you should just look at the subset of the school that applies to your kid. Thanks for the advice, but I'll still consider the whole school.

I appreciate you acknowledging that perhaps you were being too simplistic and ignoring other factors that could arguably play a greater role in the test score differences between Deal and Wilson. You should also take into account the fact that some kids struggle and get distracted in high school. Bright kids (yes, Deal kids) can have difficulty keeping their grades up after leaving middle school. Navigating all of the "stuff" that comes with being a teenager is not easy, no matter the SES level of your household.

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Anonymous wrote:It took me a minute to find an old boundary map, but I was correct...SW was zoned out of Wilson. I believe SW was the only area that contained low income housing in the previous Wilson boundary (I will double check that when I get a minute). For better or worse (depending on your perspective), those low SES children no longer have access Wilson.

Not true. There is a swath of NW that has a good amount of low income housing that was zoned out. I live in Adams Morgan by a bunch of low income housing buildings and we were all zoned out.

[Anonymous]

As of now (we have toddlers/preschoolers, so it's a long time in the future), yes. We live in AU Park and moved here so we didn't ever have to go private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It took me a minute to find an old boundary map, but I was correct...SW was zoned out of Wilson. I believe SW was the only area that contained low income housing in the previous Wilson boundary (I will double check that when I get a minute). For better or worse (depending on your perspective), those low SES children no longer have access Wilson.

Not true. There is a swath of NW that has a good amount of low income housing that was zoned out. I live in Adams Morgan by a bunch of low income housing buildings and we were all zoned out.

There were indeed NW areas that were zoned out. Mt. Pleasant is still in, but Mt. Pleasant's housing costs are high. Bottom line is, they cut out a good chunk of the city, and what may be the vast majority of low SES kids. My kids have a way to go before they get to high school so maybe I wasn't paying attention. Did no one make any noise about this?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It took me a minute to find an old boundary map, but I was correct...SW was zoned out of Wilson. I believe SW was the only area that contained low income housing in the previous Wilson boundary (I will double check that when I get a minute). For better or worse (depending on your perspective), those low SES children no longer have access Wilson.

Not true. There is a swath of NW that has a good amount of low income housing that was zoned out. I live in Adams Morgan by a bunch of low income housing buildings and we were all zoned out.

Buildings were not "zoned out", the system became a feeder system. If that building wasn't feeding to Deal, Hardy, or Adams, then yes it was directed to a high school by their new elementary-middle-high feeder system. Hate when people don't state the fact and make it seem like a bulding was zoned out when in fact they made the system predictable based on middle school (like 99% of the country does).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It took me a minute to find an old boundary map, but I was correct...SW was zoned out of Wilson. I believe SW was the only area that contained low income housing in the previous Wilson boundary (I will double check that when I get a minute). For better or worse (depending on your perspective), those low SES children no longer have access Wilson.

Not true. There is a swath of NW that has a good amount of low income housing that was zoned out. I live in Adams Morgan by a bunch of low income housing buildings and we were all zoned out.

Buildings were not "zoned out", the system became a feeder system. If that building wasn't feeding to Deal, Hardy, or Adams, then yes it was directed to a high school by their new elementary-middle-high feeder system. Hate when people don't state the fact and make it seem like a bulding was zoned out when in fact they made the system predictable based on middle school (like 99% of the country does).

If your inboundary school was Wilson before and now it is Cardozo, you were zoned out of Wilson.