Cleveland Pk3 Dual Language

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe some parents are "settling" for a 2nd or 3rd choice for dual-language school. For instance my neighbor would prefer Oyster, but has settled for Powell and appears happy. Everyone can't get into LAMB or MV.

Makes sense.

It is good there are so many options for bilingual ed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So far, I am hearing a lot of positive things about Cleveland, so why isn't it more popular? Why is it all about Oyster?

Go to the DCPS website, and compare what it says about the academic results in both schools. It is like two different universes.

And, it is not all about Oyster. You also have LAMB, MV, Marie Reed, and more.

I don't know that I would say they are "universes" apart. 12% isn't a huge difference in test scores, especially when Cleveland is Title 1 and Oyster is not. They both have roughly the same percentage of ELL (13% vs. 15%). I don't have a child at either, but given Oyster's obvious SES advantage, I would expect them to be doing waaaaay better than Cleveland on test scores, and they are not. Different, sure. Universes different based on DCPS data, not really.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So far, I am hearing a lot of positive things about Cleveland, so why isn't it more popular? Why is it all about Oyster?

Go to the DCPS website, and compare what it says about the academic results in both schools. It is like two different universes.

And, it is not all about Oyster. You also have LAMB, MV, Marie Reed, and more.

I don't know that I would say they are "universes" apart. 12% isn't a huge difference in test scores, especially when Cleveland is Title 1 and Oyster is not. They both have roughly the same percentage of ELL (13% vs. 15%). I don't have a child at either, but given Oyster's obvious SES advantage, I would expect them to be doing waaaaay better than Cleveland on test scores, and they are not. Different, sure. Universes different based on DCPS data, not really.

A 12% gap in both reading and math scores is statistically significant...in every research study. Btw, Oyster was classified as a Title I school until just a few years ago (and still had high test scores). Oyster also has a 25% FARMS rate; so that shouldn't be dismissed either. I'm not trying to knock Cleveland (it's a school I know little about/have no interest in), but I don't think that Oyster's accomplishments should be dismissed. Oyster does a great job educating children who come from a wide variety of backgrounds (much wider than the typical Ward 3 school).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So far, I am hearing a lot of positive things about Cleveland, so why isn't it more popular? Why is it all about Oyster?

Go to the DCPS website, and compare what it says about the academic results in both schools. It is like two different universes.

And, it is not all about Oyster. You also have LAMB, MV, Marie Reed, and more.

I don't know that I would say they are "universes" apart. 12% isn't a huge difference in test scores, especially when Cleveland is Title 1 and Oyster is not. They both have roughly the same percentage of ELL (13% vs. 15%). I don't have a child at either, but given Oyster's obvious SES advantage, I would expect them to be doing waaaaay better than Cleveland on test scores, and they are not. Different, sure. Universes different based on DCPS data, not really.

A 12% gap in both reading and math scores is statistically significant...in every research study. Btw, Oyster was classified as a Title I school until just a few years ago (and still had high test scores). Oyster also has a 25% FARMS rate; so that shouldn't be dismissed either. I'm not trying to knock Cleveland (it's a school I know little about/have no interest in), but I don't think that Oyster's accomplishments should be dismissed. Oyster does a great job educating children who come from a wide variety of backgrounds (much wider than the typical Ward 3 school).

+1.

If i am reading academic results correctly,,,

Oyster is a Reward school.
Math: 38% advanced
Reading: 23% advanced
Spanish: with 61% hispanic population, it must be good.

Cleveland is a Rising school.
Math: 26% advanced
Reading: 8% advanced
Spanish: i dont know

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know the test scores for bilingual Cleveland versus regular? I wonder if that track does better than the regular track?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So far, I am hearing a lot of positive things about Cleveland, so why isn't it more popular? Why is it all about Oyster?

Go to the DCPS website, and compare what it says about the academic results in both schools. It is like two different universes.

And, it is not all about Oyster. You also have LAMB, MV, Marie Reed, and more.

I don't know that I would say they are "universes" apart. 12% isn't a huge difference in test scores, especially when Cleveland is Title 1 and Oyster is not. They both have roughly the same percentage of ELL (13% vs. 15%). I don't have a child at either, but given Oyster's obvious SES advantage, I would expect them to be doing waaaaay better than Cleveland on test scores, and they are not. Different, sure. Universes different based on DCPS data, not really.

A 12% gap in both reading and math scores is statistically significant...in every research study. Btw, Oyster was classified as a Title I school until just a few years ago (and still had high test scores). Oyster also has a 25% FARMS rate; so that shouldn't be dismissed either. I'm not trying to knock Cleveland (it's a school I know little about/have no interest in), but I don't think that Oyster's accomplishments should be dismissed. Oyster does a great job educating children who come from a wide variety of backgrounds (much wider than the typical Ward 3 school).

Cleveland's FARM rate is over 50%, so their test scores are pretty great for that population.

I second the question about English-only track test scores vs. dual language. There are a few other schools with separate programs - and in the lottery you apply to he tracks separately - so you'd think DCPS has a system to release the data.