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Anonymous wrote:Why all the nit picking about vegetarian? It is a spectrum, just like everything else- there are dozens of lines people have drawn and most call themselves vegetarian. You can argue till the kale comes home about who is or isn't a vegetarian based on what they will or will not eat - most of the time or occasionally. This is why we have to ask questions. I usually ask "Are there any food restrictions?" It covers allergies, religious rules, and preferences.

It's not a spectrum. You either eat meat, fish and poultry and biproducts or you do not. There are separate categories for dairy - lacto, eggs -ovo or neither which is vegan. I generally avoid eating at most people's homes to avoid the issue. And, I feed my children who are also vegetarian before we go somewhere that food may be an issue. It is hard as most assume you eat chicken or fish and that is not vegetarian.

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Anonymous wrote:If I invite you, your family digestive and food issues are not my problem. If you can't eat what I cooked either stay home or bring your own.

My sister is a strict vegetarian. We aren't. She brings her own food because she knows I won't fix anything special for her. My friend had a gastric bypass. Everything I cooked she'd say I can't eat that. I quit inviting her.

What a very rude attitude. I wouldn't want to be a guest in your house, knowing you think that, regardless of my issues or lack thereof, because you're rude and clearly don't want to do anything to accomodate your guests. I guess you don't have many friends.

BTW, there's no such thing as a strict vegetarian. There are vegetarians, and there are people who eat meat and/or fish. Talking about a strict vegetarian makes about as much sense as talking about a strict virgin. You're an ignoramus besides being rude.

Manners aside, the first PP is correct technically. A strict vegetarian is another term for vegan.

Signed, an ovo-lacto vegetarian.

That's not another term for vegan. "Strict vegetarian" is used to describe someone who won't eat anything with broth or other meat products, not just the meat itself. Some vegetarians don't care if someone throws some chicken broth into a recipe = not a strict vegetarian. Avoiding that dish = strict vegetarian.

If someone claims to not eat meat but then eats broth or other meat products, they're not a vegetarian at all. Just like if someone eats fish, they're not a vegetarian.

I'm a vegetarian 99% of the time, but honestly there are times when being a bit flexible is the polite thing to do. Im not going to interrogate my extended family members about whether there is chicken broth in this or that at a holiday gathering. There are lots of dishes that "appear" vegetarian but aren't. They'd think I was a rude, picky vegetarian. Likewise, when traveling for work in the boonies of Puerto Rico, I'll order beans and rice knowing full well there are bits of pork in it, because the concept of vegetarianism is so foreign. But it's still the closest thing to a veggie friendly meal, and I'd prefer not to starve just to make a point or make my colleagues uncomfortable. If this makes me a pretender in the purists minds, so be it!

I would not consider you vegetarian. I would never knowingly eat something with meat or biproducts. Mistakes happen but I do my best to avoid them. Knowing and not knowing are two different things. I would look at you very strongly If you claim vegetarian and I saw you eating chicken broth or bits of pork. It's not about making a point, you either are or are not a vegetarian.

This is why there is so much confusion with people who are NOT truly vegetarians, understanding what a vegetarian or vegan eats or doesn't eat. So many people use the term loosely and it doesn't mean anything anymore.

So, a primer:

Vegetarian- does not eat meat, products containing meat /animal products (eg bones). This includes avoidance of fish, shellfish, dairy, eggs, gelatin, etc.
Ovo-vegetarian - as above, add eggs
Lacto- vegetarian - per vegetarian, will consume milk/ milk products
Ovo-Lacto vegetarian - vegetarian that consumes eggs, milk and no other animal products.
Vegan - consumes no animal product or animal- derived products whatsoever. This includes honey, colourings made with bugs. Many also abstain from wearing wool.

Then there are the "variations", which are not variations at all. These are omnivores

A person who eats a mostly vegetarian diet but adds fish is not a vegetarian. They are a pescetarian.
A person who eats a mostly vegetarian diet but adds chicken is a pollotarian.

And anyone who eats vegetarian "sometimes" is not a vegetarian. They are an omnivore. And you know what? That's okay too.

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Anonymous wrote:What about honey or yeast bread or fermented products or bugs in grains?

Yeast ... is not an animal. It's a fungus.

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who gives a $hit about how you overly define what goes in your mouth. most people will not be catering to it, unless they buy in to the same fashionable trend or allergy.

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THIS is why I always host at restaurants.

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I've got friends and they keep kosher, mom does paleo, daughter is a vegetarian, son hates cheese and has a nut allergy. It is very difficult. I make a bunch of things and most of the conversation is about who can eat what.

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Isn't it your true job to make people that come to your house feel welcome? I mean, the food is nice, but you're not really inviting them there to feed them are you? You're having them there to be with them, and sharing a meal is incidental.

Why not indulge picky eaters and the poor people with medical conditions? Have a pizza for the kids, and spend some time researching the medical recipes. That's what the internet is for.

Why wouldn't you want to be a gracious and welcoming person?

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Anonymous wrote:If I invite you, your family digestive and food issues are not my problem. If you can't eat what I cooked either stay home or bring your own.

My sister is a strict vegetarian. We aren't. She brings her own food because she knows I won't fix anything special for her. My friend had a gastric bypass. Everything I cooked she'd say I can't eat that. I quit inviting her.

Wow, Friends Much?

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it your true job to make people that come to your house feel welcome? I mean, the food is nice, but you're not really inviting them there to feed them are you? You're having them there to be with them, and sharing a meal is incidental.

Why not indulge picky eaters and the poor people with medical conditions? Have a pizza for the kids, and spend some time researching the medical recipes. That's what the internet is for.

Why wouldn't you want to be a gracious and welcoming person?

Exactly. Hospitality is about making people feel welcomed into your home. Maybe that means some accommodations to your menu but ultimately it's about enjoying someone's company.

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I had a friend who was a very picky eater. She never wanted to burden people with her different food a versions so either she'd host events or make them desert only activities since that didn't present issues for her.

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Anonymous wrote:If I invite you, your family digestive and food issues are not my problem. If you can't eat what I cooked either stay home or bring your own.

My sister is a strict vegetarian. We aren't. She brings her own food because she knows I won't fix anything special for her. My friend had a gastric bypass. Everything I cooked she'd say I can't eat that. I quit inviting her.

What a very rude attitude. I wouldn't want to be a guest in your house, knowing you think that, regardless of my issues or lack thereof, because you're rude and clearly don't want to do anything to accomodate your guests. I guess you don't have many friends.

BTW, there's no such thing as a strict vegetarian. There are vegetarians, and there are people who eat meat and/or fish. Talking about a strict vegetarian makes about as much sense as talking about a strict virgin. You're an ignoramus besides being rude.

Manners aside, the first PP is correct technically. A strict vegetarian is another term for vegan.

Signed, an ovo-lacto vegetarian.

That's not another term for vegan. "Strict vegetarian" is used to describe someone who won't eat anything with broth or other meat products, not just the meat itself. Some vegetarians don't care if someone throws some chicken broth into a recipe = not a strict vegetarian. Avoiding that dish = strict vegetarian.

If someone claims to not eat meat but then eats broth or other meat products, they're not a vegetarian at all. Just like if someone eats fish, they're not a vegetarian.

I'm a vegetarian 99% of the time, but honestly there are times when being a bit flexible is the polite thing to do. Im not going to interrogate my extended family members about whether there is chicken broth in this or that at a holiday gathering. There are lots of dishes that "appear" vegetarian but aren't. They'd think I was a rude, picky vegetarian. Likewise, when traveling for work in the boonies of Puerto Rico, I'll order beans and rice knowing full well there are bits of pork in it, because the concept of vegetarianism is so foreign. But it's still the closest thing to a veggie friendly meal, and I'd prefer not to starve just to make a point or make my colleagues uncomfortable. If this makes me a pretender in the purists minds, so be it!

I would not consider you vegetarian. I would never knowingly eat something with meat or biproducts. Mistakes happen but I do my best to avoid them. Knowing and not knowing are two different things. I would look at you very strongly If you claim vegetarian and I saw you eating chicken broth or bits of pork. It's not about making a point, you either are or are not a vegetarian.

This is why there is so much confusion with people who are NOT truly vegetarians, understanding what a vegetarian or vegan eats or doesn't eat. So many people use the term loosely and it doesn't mean anything anymore.

So, a primer:

Vegetarian- does not eat meat, products containing meat /animal products (eg bones). This includes avoidance of fish, shellfish, dairy, eggs, gelatin, etc.
Ovo-vegetarian - as above, add eggs
Lacto- vegetarian - per vegetarian, will consume milk/ milk products
Ovo-Lacto vegetarian - vegetarian that consumes eggs, milk and no other animal products.
Vegan - consumes no animal product or animal- derived products whatsoever. This includes honey, colourings made with bugs. Many also abstain from wearing wool.

Then there are the "variations", which are not variations at all. These are omnivores

A person who eats a mostly vegetarian diet but adds fish is not a vegetarian. They are a pescetarian.
A person who eats a mostly vegetarian diet but adds chicken is a pollotarian.

And anyone who eats vegetarian "sometimes" is not a vegetarian. They are an omnivore. And you know what? That's okay too.

There are also pescetatians. Which I never really understood until I had a friend who was one. She had a lot of concerns with meat production in this country, and also felt that if she was going to eat an animal, she should feel confortable killing it herself. Given the chance, she could not butcher a chicken, but had no problem catching a fish off a dock and killing it. Sorry I know this is way off topic but found it interesting.

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Oops that was a typo obviously, pescetarians.

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Anonymous wrote:If I invite you, your family digestive and food issues are not my problem. If you can't eat what I cooked either stay home or bring your own.

My sister is a strict vegetarian. We aren't. She brings her own food because she knows I won't fix anything special for her. My friend had a gastric bypass. Everything I cooked she'd say I can't eat that. I quit inviting her.

What a very rude attitude. I wouldn't want to be a guest in your house, knowing you think that, regardless of my issues or lack thereof, because you're rude and clearly don't want to do anything to accomodate your guests. I guess you don't have many friends.

BTW, there's no such thing as a strict vegetarian. There are vegetarians, and there are people who eat meat and/or fish. Talking about a strict vegetarian makes about as much sense as talking about a strict virgin. You're an ignoramus besides being rude.

Manners aside, the first PP is correct technically. A strict vegetarian is another term for vegan.

Signed, an ovo-lacto vegetarian.

That's not another term for vegan. "Strict vegetarian" is used to describe someone who won't eat anything with broth or other meat products, not just the meat itself. Some vegetarians don't care if someone throws some chicken broth into a recipe = not a strict vegetarian. Avoiding that dish = strict vegetarian.

If someone claims to not eat meat but then eats broth or other meat products, they're not a vegetarian at all. Just like if someone eats fish, they're not a vegetarian.

I'm a vegetarian 99% of the time, but honestly there are times when being a bit flexible is the polite thing to do. Im not going to interrogate my extended family members about whether there is chicken broth in this or that at a holiday gathering. There are lots of dishes that "appear" vegetarian but aren't. They'd think I was a rude, picky vegetarian. Likewise, when traveling for work in the boonies of Puerto Rico, I'll order beans and rice knowing full well there are bits of pork in it, because the concept of vegetarianism is so foreign. But it's still the closest thing to a veggie friendly meal, and I'd prefer not to starve just to make a point or make my colleagues uncomfortable. If this makes me a pretender in the purists minds, so be it!

I would not consider you vegetarian. I would never knowingly eat something with meat or biproducts. Mistakes happen but I do my best to avoid them. Knowing and not knowing are two different things. I would look at you very strongly If you claim vegetarian and I saw you eating chicken broth or bits of pork. It's not about making a point, you either are or are not a vegetarian.

So "real" vegetarians are those that are "perfect" 100% of the time? What do you do if there is nothing vegetarian for you to eat? Just not eat?

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Anonymous wrote:If I invite you, your family digestive and food issues are not my problem. If you can't eat what I cooked either stay home or bring your own.

My sister is a strict vegetarian. We aren't. She brings her own food because she knows I won't fix anything special for her. My friend had a gastric bypass. Everything I cooked she'd say I can't eat that. I quit inviting her.

What a very rude attitude. I wouldn't want to be a guest in your house, knowing you think that, regardless of my issues or lack thereof, because you're rude and clearly don't want to do anything to accomodate your guests. I guess you don't have many friends.

BTW, there's no such thing as a strict vegetarian. There are vegetarians, and there are people who eat meat and/or fish. Talking about a strict vegetarian makes about as much sense as talking about a strict virgin. You're an ignoramus besides being rude.

Manners aside, the first PP is correct technically. A strict vegetarian is another term for vegan.

Signed, an ovo-lacto vegetarian.

That's not another term for vegan. "Strict vegetarian" is used to describe someone who won't eat anything with broth or other meat products, not just the meat itself. Some vegetarians don't care if someone throws some chicken broth into a recipe = not a strict vegetarian. Avoiding that dish = strict vegetarian.

If someone claims to not eat meat but then eats broth or other meat products, they're not a vegetarian at all. Just like if someone eats fish, they're not a vegetarian.

I'm a vegetarian 99% of the time, but honestly there are times when being a bit flexible is the polite thing to do. Im not going to interrogate my extended family members about whether there is chicken broth in this or that at a holiday gathering. There are lots of dishes that "appear" vegetarian but aren't. They'd think I was a rude, picky vegetarian. Likewise, when traveling for work in the boonies of Puerto Rico, I'll order beans and rice knowing full well there are bits of pork in it, because the concept of vegetarianism is so foreign. But it's still the closest thing to a veggie friendly meal, and I'd prefer not to starve just to make a point or make my colleagues uncomfortable. If this makes me a pretender in the purists minds, so be it!

I would not consider you vegetarian. I would never knowingly eat something with meat or biproducts. Mistakes happen but I do my best to avoid them. Knowing and not knowing are two different things. I would look at you very strongly If you claim vegetarian and I saw you eating chicken broth or bits of pork. It's not about making a point, you either are or are not a vegetarian.

So "real" vegetarians are those that are "perfect" 100% of the time? What do you do if there is nothing vegetarian for you to eat? Just not eat?

Yes. If your ethics have taken you to being a vegetarian, then you have the inner strength to skip a meal. The host/ess is still a rude bastard/bitch for not providing something you can eat, tho.

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Yes. If your ethics have taken you to being a vegetarian, then you have the inner strength to skip a meal. The host/ess is still a rude bastard/bitch for not providing something you can eat, tho.

You need to eat a hamburger. Maybe the red blood will start to flow to your brain again. What a strident life you lead.

I'm not anti-vegetarian/vegan by any stretch. I accommodate all when I host if I know ahead of time. On the flip side, my kid is ASD, with very limited food preferences. I would never ask someone hosting me to deal with him. I bring along food, and ask the host/ess if it is okay to serve him what I brought.