So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

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Anonymous wrote:Do other DCPS schools require uniforms? Why some and not others? I dislike uniforms in private and public school, so I can't figure out why certain public school kids should have to wear them.

At Hardy, the families voted on whether or not to have uniforms. My kid was in 8th grade there when the vote was taken. I can't remember if we decided to vote since dd was graduating but as I recall we supported the idea. ~white professional OOB mom

IMHO the uniforms send a message that "we have to hold the reins very tight to maintain discipline in our urban school." If this is the message -- among other challenges -- it any wonder that only 13% of the in-bounds population chooses Hardy?

So then IYHO, why then does St. Albans have uniform? Why does Latin have one? Same reasoning?

Albans does it for tradition. I think Latin's thinking was perhaps closer to Hardy's, although the founder of Latin was also rather fond of old school traditions.

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Anonymous wrote:Do other DCPS schools require uniforms? Why some and not others? I dislike uniforms in private and public school, so I can't figure out why certain public school kids should have to wear them.

At Hardy, the families voted on whether or not to have uniforms. My kid was in 8th grade there when the vote was taken. I can't remember if we decided to vote since dd was graduating but as I recall we supported the idea. ~white professional OOB mom

IMHO the uniforms send a message that "we have to hold the reins very tight to maintain discipline in our urban school." If this is the message -- among other challenges -- it any wonder that only 13% of the in-bounds population chooses Hardy?

I believe the arguments in favor included removing the focus on personal dress and the attendant inequality it encourages; that Hardy kids would be recognizable if they misbehaved in public and conversely would not be mistaken for other kids (maybe Deal students?) who misbehaved; that it would make life easier to not have to select an outfit everyday.; that attention should be focused on school above all. The usual kinds of arguments people make in favor of uniforms.

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Anonymous wrote:Do other DCPS schools require uniforms? Why some and not others? I dislike uniforms in private and public school, so I can't figure out why certain public school kids should have to wear them.

At Hardy, the families voted on whether or not to have uniforms. My kid was in 8th grade there when the vote was taken. I can't remember if we decided to vote since dd was graduating but as I recall we supported the idea. ~white professional OOB mom

IMHO the uniforms send a message that "we have to hold the reins very tight to maintain discipline in our urban school." If this is the message -- among other challenges -- it any wonder that only 13% of the in-bounds population chooses Hardy?

You are interpreting the uniforms this way because you are a racist. There is no other explanation, unless you have the same reactions to the uniforms at St. Albans, Georgetown Prep, Holton Arms, and other lily-white schools

How dare you call anyone a racist! (And, moreover, you don't know what you're talking about because none of the schools you listed is "lily white.") Perhaps you should leave your Black Panther world view back in the 60s, where it belongs.

Hardy, last I checked, is not a prep school. There is a reason why urban schools have adopted school uniforms and it is not to emulate St. Albans or Eton. It is rather a transparent attempt to instill discipline because the school authorities have concluded that discipline is sorely lacking. Perhaps that was once the case at Hardy, but hopefully it is no longer. But to the IB population that DCPS presumably wants to attract more of, it sends a very discordant message. Just sayin.'

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Seriously, if Hardy had uniforms that included plaid skirts and blue blazers, would we be having this conversation?

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, if Hardy had uniforms that included plaid skirts and blue blazers, would we be having this conversation?

Do any public schools in Montgomery County have uniforms?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do other DCPS schools require uniforms? Why some and not others? I dislike uniforms in private and public school, so I can't figure out why certain public school kids should have to wear them.

At Hardy, the families voted on whether or not to have uniforms. My kid was in 8th grade there when the vote was taken. I can't remember if we decided to vote since dd was graduating but as I recall we supported the idea. ~white professional OOB mom

IMHO the uniforms send a message that "we have to hold the reins very tight to maintain discipline in our urban school." If this is the message -- among other challenges -- it any wonder that only 13% of the in-bounds population chooses Hardy?

You are interpreting the uniforms this way because you are a racist. There is no other explanation, unless you have the same reactions to the uniforms at St. Albans, Georgetown Prep, Holton Arms, and other lily-white schools

How dare you call anyone a racist! (And, moreover, you don't know what you're talking about because none of the schools you listed is "lily white.") Perhaps you should leave your Black Panther world view back in the 60s, where it belongs.

Hardy, last I checked, is not a prep school. There is a reason why urban schools have adopted school uniforms and it is not to emulate St. Albans or Eton. It is rather a transparent attempt to instill discipline because the school authorities have concluded that discipline is sorely lacking. Perhaps that was once the case at Hardy, but hopefully it is no longer. But to the IB population that DCPS presumably wants to attract more of, it sends a very discordant message. Just sayin.'

Methinks we have found the prep school troll who regularly starts these Hardy IB threads to discourage potential families from enrolling at their IB school.

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At Latin, it was definitely an attempt to instill discipline. It bugs me that Hardy parents give years ago got to decide what my kid wears to a PUBLIC school. Ridiculous! What if parents refuse to put their kids in uniforms?

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Anonymous wrote:At Latin, it was definitely an attempt to instill discipline. It bugs me that Hardy parents give years ago got to decide what my kid wears to a PUBLIC school. Ridiculous! What if parents refuse to put their kids in uniforms?

Then the kids get expelled and sent down to Deal.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, if Hardy had uniforms that included plaid skirts and blue blazers, would we be having this conversation?

Yes we would . Why do kids at one public school have to wear uniforms??? Eaton kids will go from feeding into a non-uniform school to a uniform school. Why the difference?

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Anonymous wrote:At Latin, it was definitely an attempt to instill discipline. It bugs me that Hardy parents give years ago got to decide what my kid wears to a PUBLIC school. Ridiculous! What if parents refuse to put their kids in uniforms?

So enroll your kid at Hardy and push for another vote. Sorry you don't get to vote on it every four years like the president but as I recall from my private school days we didn't get to vote on the uniforms ever.

But again, if you're waiting for someone to beg you to come and to make it all comfortable for you before you are willing to enroll, well, change won't happen very fast.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, if Hardy had uniforms that included plaid skirts and blue blazers, would we be having this conversation?

Yes we would . Why do kids at one public school have to wear uniforms??? Eaton kids will go from feeding into a non-uniform school to a uniform school. Why the difference?

Yeah, that's right, we Hardy parents voted for uniforms just to stick it to future parents. It was a plot and how well it's worked. C'mon, deep breaths, everybody, deep breaths.

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Blazers/ties and dress pants for boys and plaid skirts for girls are worlds away from the typical public school uniform of khaki/twill pants and a polo. Not a good argument.

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I just think a non-uniform school would be more appealing to IB families. If all DCPS students wore uniforms, it might be different, but the uniforms make Hardy stand out, and not in a good way.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, if Hardy had uniforms that included plaid skirts and blue blazers, would we be having this conversation?

Yes we would . Why do kids at one public school have to wear uniforms??? Eaton kids will go from feeding into a non-uniform school to a uniform school. Why the difference?

Yeah, that's right, we Hardy parents voted for uniforms just to stick it to future parents. It was a plot and how well it's worked. C'mon, deep breaths, everybody, deep breaths.

A plot is a little far-fetched, but didn't Chancellor Rhee try to make changes to Hardy a few years ago to make it more attractive to IB families? If I remember correctly, the existing Hardy community was definitely not amused by the concept of change.

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Maybe the school once needed uniforms, but hopefully that time has passed.