Am I being unreasonable? Neighbor complaints about noise - sorry long

[Anonymous]

OP, you sound like you are trying to cause trouble, not prevent it. I was on your side at the beginning, but now I'm on the neighbor lawyer's side.

You seem smug and insufferable.

If you go looking for trouble, you will find it. Especially if someone is/has a lawyer.

You seem antagonistic, and more concerned with having the last word, than with actually doing the right thing. I trust this is not the first time.

BTW, there are more sophisticated video resources out there than you know. Know when to say when, and try to be a decent human being instead of having the last word.

If you feel wronged by the world, this neighbor is not going to make a difference, one way or the other. You need to allow for proper perspective here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In short -- she came over and asked if you could keep it quieter, and you said

1. No.
2. You're unneighborly.
3. Deal with it.
4. You're loud, too.
5. Go ahead and call the police.

Yes?

This is how I read your post. Try to keep the screaming at the top of the children's lungs to a minimum.

The boy is here for 1 1/2 hours every 3 weeks or so. I don't think it's that bad, right? Did you read the part I said mom is working hard on teaching him to speak in a lower voice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In short -- she came over and asked if you could keep it quieter, and you said

1. No.
2. You're unneighborly.
3. Deal with it.
4. You're loud, too.
5. Go ahead and call the police.

Yes?

This is how I read your post. Try to keep the screaming at the top of the children's lungs to a minimum.

+10000

You seem selfish and self centered (read:uncivilized), OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, you sound like you are trying to cause trouble, not prevent it. I was on your side at the beginning, but now I'm on the neighbor lawyer's side.

You seem smug and insufferable.

If you go looking for trouble, you will find it. Especially if someone is/has a lawyer.

You seem antagonistic, and more concerned with having the last word, than with actually doing the right thing. I trust this is not the first time.

BTW, there are more sophisticated video resources out there than you know. Know when to say when, and try to be a decent human being instead of having the last word.

If you feel wronged by the world, this neighbor is not going to make a difference, one way or the other. You need to allow for proper perspective here.

This is a joke, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In short -- she came over and asked if you could keep it quieter, and you said

1. No.
2. You're unneighborly.
3. Deal with it.
4. You're loud, too.
5. Go ahead and call the police.

Yes?

This is how I read your post. Try to keep the screaming at the top of the children's lungs to a minimum.

The boy is here for 1 1/2 hours every 3 weeks or so. I don't think it's that bad, right? Did you read the part I said mom is working hard on teaching him to speak in a lower voice?

Let me get this straight. You are illegally running a day care from your residence, OP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you sound like you are trying to cause trouble, not prevent it. I was on your side at the beginning, but now I'm on the neighbor lawyer's side.

You seem smug and insufferable.

If you go looking for trouble, you will find it. Especially if someone is/has a lawyer.

You seem antagonistic, and more concerned with having the last word, than with actually doing the right thing. I trust this is not the first time.

BTW, there are more sophisticated video resources out there than you know. Know when to say when, and try to be a decent human being instead of having the last word.

If you feel wronged by the world, this neighbor is not going to make a difference, one way or the other. You need to allow for proper perspective here.

This is a joke, right?

You wish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In short -- she came over and asked if you could keep it quieter, and you said

1. No.
2. You're unneighborly.
3. Deal with it.
4. You're loud, too.
5. Go ahead and call the police.

Yes?

This is how I read your post. Try to keep the screaming at the top of the children's lungs to a minimum.

The boy is here for 1 1/2 hours every 3 weeks or so. I don't think it's that bad, right? Did you read the part I said mom is working hard on teaching him to speak in a lower voice?

Let me get this straight. You are illegally running a day care from your residence, OP?

...how is having playdates running a daycare?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Be prepared to get a letter from the homeowner's association....

OOOOh scare tactics.

She would have to prove this is happening. Good luck to her with that.

THat's not hard at all. Video recorder with sound on.

Jeez, not bright are you?

Acually, I am bright, I think things through, and I am also aware of the law. So let me walk you through the most basic considerations.

First: She would have to record enough time of the offending noise and make a real case that her situation is as bad as she is pretending it to be. And she wont do it. Because she is too unstable.

Second: she has taken no apparent reasonable actions to dampen the sound on HER end which is what NORMAL people do. They get things like white noise machines and such. It is not the responsibility of a human to make no noise. OP already took measures to dampen normal sounds.

Finally: as an audio professional I can assure you that a video recorder with the sound on will not only NOT capture what she is hearing for reasons too technical to get into here, but, more importantly, it will not capture what she feels inside when she hears it, which is at the heart of the issue.

This is not about objective db levels. THAT can be measured. But it would have to be sustained and unreasonable. AND it would have to be during a time where the NOISE ORDINANCES kick in.

Is this lawyer is operating a business out of her home? Maybe she has a zoning issue. She has no basis for complaining about her WORK because she is not at work if she is at home.

Noise ordinances don't just 'kick in', they apply to residential units at all hours, it's just that during the day the requirements are lower than they are at night. And all the neighbor has to do is complain to the landlord and invite them over to her place to inspect the noise.

No, a human is not expected to make no noise, but a human can be reasonably expected not to yell bloody murder, and if that human is a minor, it's his/her parents' responsibility to ensure that he/she doesn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm with you OP. Her need to work from a quiet home is no more important than your need to let your kids play freely at home.

There are lots of nut jobs out there, in all walks of life. She has shown you her hand. Too bad you have to deal with her -- and think of her every time your kids are loud -- but you are in the right.

Yes OP, the naysayers are people like your neighbor. So don't feel singled out. They are everywhere.

And you think your precious snowflake can do no wrong. People like you are also everywhere. Unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

Pretty sure no cop is going to cite a toddler for screaming. Get real. And if they were, all you CIO-ers would be in big trouble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm with you OP. Her need to work from a quiet home is no more important than your need to let your kids play freely at home.

There are lots of nut jobs out there, in all walks of life. She has shown you her hand. Too bad you have to deal with her -- and think of her every time your kids are loud -- but you are in the right.

Yes OP, the naysayers are people like your neighbor. So don't feel singled out. They are everywhere.

And you think your precious snowflake can do no wrong. People like you are also everywhere. Unfortunately.

+100000

You sound really inconsiderate, OP.

[Anonymous]

sliding down the stairs in a box is unreasonable with shared walls.

some noise is fine, but you can't live in a town home and get silence without a pair of bose headphones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In short -- she came over and asked if you could keep it quieter, and you said

1. No.
2. You're unneighborly.
3. Deal with it.
4. You're loud, too.
5. Go ahead and call the police.

Yes?

This is how I read your post. Try to keep the screaming at the top of the children's lungs to a minimum.

The boy is here for 1 1/2 hours every 3 weeks or so. I don't think it's that bad, right? Did you read the part I said mom is working hard on teaching him to speak in a lower voice?

Let me get this straight. You are illegally running a day care from your residence, OP?

What? You kidding right? This kid was here for a play date. His mom brought banana bread we all ate together and the kids did things kids do while their parents chat. They ran laughed sang songs read books crawled in and out of a tent and a tunnel... Once nap time came they packed and left. Close to 1 1/2 hour after they arrived. They come over every 3 weeks or so. We go over their home every other week, sometimes we meet at a park.

You're a joker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure no cop is going to cite a toddler for screaming. Get real. And if they were, all you CIO-ers would be in big trouble.

OP here. I giggled as I read this. While the lady talked I thought she should be glad she didn't share the wall with us when DS was waking up 5 times in the middle of the night to nurse LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Be prepared to get a letter from the homeowner's association....

OOOOh scare tactics.

She would have to prove this is happening. Good luck to her with that.

THat's not hard at all. Video recorder with sound on.

Jeez, not bright are you?

Acually, I am bright, I think things through, and I am also aware of the law. So let me walk you through the most basic considerations.

First: She would have to record enough time of the offending noise and make a real case that her situation is as bad as she is pretending it to be. And she wont do it. Because she is too unstable.

Second: she has taken no apparent reasonable actions to dampen the sound on HER end which is what NORMAL people do. They get things like white noise machines and such. It is not the responsibility of a human to make no noise. OP already took measures to dampen normal sounds.

Finally: as an audio professional I can assure you that a video recorder with the sound on will not only NOT capture what she is hearing for reasons too technical to get into here, but, more importantly, it will not capture what she feels inside when she hears it, which is at the heart of the issue.

This is not about objective db levels. THAT can be measured. But it would have to be sustained and unreasonable. [/b]AND it would have to be during a time where the NOISE ORDINANCES kick in.

Is this lawyer is operating a business out of her home? Maybe she has a zoning issue. She has no basis for complaining about her WORK because she is not at work if she is at home.]

THank you for proving the point about not being bright. Noise ordinances don't "kick in", they are there 24 hrs a day. As for the last sentences, well, it's just laughable.