Colvin Run Elementary School

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:100% ^PP!! The principal is always talking about how Colvin Run is a role model for other FCPS and if a program can’t work here it won’t work in other FCPS schools. If he truly wanted to make a difference in all children's success and self-esteem he would advocate to eliminate the whole aap level 4 application process (and the ridiculous appeal portion) and stop labeling kids and let the teachers place the truly gifted/advanced kids in the same class without even labeling anybody as aap or gen ed. That’s how private schools do it without upsetting kids and parents. This principal tells all new parents that Cres is a public private school,but it’s far from it. Private schools also give all kids a chance to excel at deeper learning because they know most kids will meet high expectations. By dividing kids into aap and gen ed you’re basically tell a group of kids they lack potential. It’s actually very sad.

Couldn't agree more. The whole system is really atrocious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately my kid is one that has asked me “Mom, am I dumb?”. It was heartbreaking to say the least. Kids are affected more than a lot of parents want to admit. I’ve heard from too many parents that their kid has asked them something similar all because of the obvious divide.

Yep. In second grade, after the AAP decisions went out, it's all the kids were talking about at lunch the next day. "Are you in AAP? No? Why not? Are you dumb?" It was a horrible time for my child, and the other children who weren't going to be in AAP, but who saw many (most) of their friends excitedly talking about how they were "smart" and were going to be in the same classes the following year.

Really, a horrible system for everyone involved. Kids who get in think they're somehow "smarter" than everyone else, and kids who don't get in (often, with very similar scores), are made to feel lacking. I agree with the PP who mentioned the character shapes at CRES. What a bunch of baloney.

[Anonymous]

What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

There is nothing unique about the AAP program at CRES. The only difference is that parents in the Langley pyramid react very negatively whenever they or their kids aren’t always labeled “the best.”

[Anonymous]

And apparently very smugly when they are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

There is nothing unique about the AAP program at CRES. The only difference is that parents in the Langley pyramid react very negatively whenever they or their kids aren’t always labeled “the best.”

Being in "the Langley pyramid" has zero to do with how a child reacts to being told s/he is "dumb" by another child who is no smarter in any measurable way. You're right that there is nothing unique about CRES's AAP program. There are snotty kids all over FCPS who feel the need to tell non-AAP kids they're "dumb." I imagine your child is one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

I'm a different poster and my "gen ed" kids (who attend COlvin Run) have never been asked by friends if they were dumb. Honestly, I sometimes feel like the Colvin Run parents on DCUM attend different schools!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

There is nothing unique about the AAP program at CRES. The only difference is that parents in the Langley pyramid react very negatively whenever they or their kids aren’t always labeled “the best.”

Being in "the Langley pyramid" has zero to do with how a child reacts to being told s/he is "dumb" by another child who is no smarter in any measurable way. You're right that there is nothing unique about CRES's AAP program. There are snotty kids all over FCPS who feel the need to tell non-AAP kids they're "dumb." I imagine your child is one of them.

You imagine wrong, but thanks for proving the point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

I'm a different poster and my "gen ed" kids (who attend COlvin Run) have never been asked by friends if they were dumb. Honestly, I sometimes feel like the Colvin Run parents on DCUM attend different schools!

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Just because it didn’t happen to your kids doesn’t mean it doesn’t happens and it’s quite haughty of you to dismiss other parents’ experiences. Kids do talk and unfortunately sometimes do say hurtful comments that parents may not want to admit. If parents are complaining about this there must be a problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

I'm a different poster and my "gen ed" kids (who attend COlvin Run) have never been asked by friends if they were dumb. Honestly, I sometimes feel like the Colvin Run parents on DCUM attend different schools!

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Just because it didn’t happen to your kids doesn’t mean it doesn’t happens and it’s quite haughty of you to dismiss other parents’ experiences. Kids do talk and unfortunately sometimes do say hurtful comments that parents may not want to admit. If parents are complaining about this there must be a problem.

PP only spoke to her kids’ experience. It wasn’t haughty at all. Stop pretending you are the only one with relevant experience. It is really obnoxious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

There is nothing unique about the AAP program at CRES. The only difference is that parents in the Langley pyramid react very negatively whenever they or their kids aren’t always labeled “the best.”

Being in "the Langley pyramid" has zero to do with how a child reacts to being told s/he is "dumb" by another child who is no smarter in any measurable way. You're right that there is nothing unique about CRES's AAP program. There are snotty kids all over FCPS who feel the need to tell non-AAP kids they're "dumb." I imagine your child is one of them.

You imagine wrong, but thanks for proving the point.

I believe it's you who has proved the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

I'm a different poster and my "gen ed" kids (who attend COlvin Run) have never been asked by friends if they were dumb. Honestly, I sometimes feel like the Colvin Run parents on DCUM attend different schools!

Well, it's fortunate that your kids haven't experienced what so many others have. I've had four kids attend CRES, and this kind of thing has happened to each one of them. And their friends who aren't in AAP.

[Anonymous]

The divide doesn’t just start at 3rd grade either, it’s just even more pronounced. It actually starts after kindergarten at Colvin Run when some kids get aap level 2 eligibility letters sent home and the parents start thinking their kids are so much smarter than the ones that didn’t. Parents actually start bragging to each other about their kids getting into aap at 1st grade!!! So actually they start tracking and labeling kids starting in kindergarten and the parents find out very quickly and are either ecstatic or downtrodden learning their perfectly, bright kid isn’t thought of as capable as 1/2 the other kids. Colvin Run does a disservice to all of its kids and families. The administration should be ashamed of themselves to even have character shapes.

[Anonymous]

If your child is not in level 4 aap, this school will single-handedly make them feel “stupid” and make you as a parent question where you went wrong. Better to go to a non-center school and let you and your child enjoy the elementary years.