Non dc residents

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think OP is a troll. No one would send their dc to school in DC if they lived in Virginia.

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We live in NOVA and MOCO for a reason. The schools!
I love these delusional posts about all the suburbanites sneaking over the border to attend DCPS. Please, save your comments about all the wonderful charters. They are simply a band -aid to stem the bleeding of a woefully inadequate school system.

[Anonymous]

Well, depending on the age of the people in question's children, one big reason to apply in DC is for free PS & PK. I also respectfully disagree about all of DC's schools being sub-par. Many are excellent. Problem is that most kids will not end up getting in with these schools only offering a few spots each year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This isn't an off the wall suggestion. What DCPS should do is use one of those cars equiped with license plate scanners to scan license plates at drop off. That can easly produce a list of the registered owners. Look at the list for out of state addresses for parents of kids in the school and then follow up case-by-case. Some cases will be legit. A previous poster mentioned that military families on active duty, for example, don't have to re-register their vehicles in DC. Other cases may be a caregiver or a grandparent. But it will allow the schools to ferret out the fraudsters.

Is it any harder to fraudulently register a vehicle than it is to fraudulently register for school? I registered a car a couple of months ago and I didn't have to show any proof of residence, whereas for DCPS I have to show two forms of proof, and I have to re-verify every year. It seems that the benefits of going to the school of your choice are much greater than the benefits of picking your jurisdiction for car registration, and that people would just move their car registration if this sort of verification became routine.

Didn't you have to show a DC driver's license? That is your proof of residence. To get a DC driver's license, you must demonstrate DC residency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think OP is a troll. No one would send their dc to school in DC if they lived in Virginia.

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We live in NOVA and MOCO for a reason. The schools!
I love these delusional posts about all the suburbanites sneaking over the border to attend DCPS. Please, save your comments about all the wonderful charters. They are simply a band -aid to stem the bleeding of a woefully inadequate school system.

We seriously considered moving to MoCo from DC a couple of years ago. However, after visiting a few elementary schools, we came to the conclusion that our local DCPS was a very good school by comparison. So we stayed.

For middle school, we're trying out the charters. If they don't pan out, we may well end up in MoCo after all.

My impression is that the average MCPS is much better than the average DCPS, but the best DCPSs give the best MCPSs a run for their money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think OP is a troll. No one would send their dc to school in DC if they lived in Virginia.

+1
We live in NOVA and MOCO for a reason. The schools!
I love these delusional posts about all the suburbanites sneaking over the border to attend DCPS. Please, save your comments about all the wonderful charters. They are simply a band -aid to stem the bleeding of a woefully inadequate school system.

I don't know about NOVA, but I do know that not all MOCO schools are equal.

[Anonymous]

We are pretty certain that a number of the families who attend with my DD at an east of the park school in NW live in Prince George's County. They may be using an old address or a relative's. I think some of the moms are just middle class people trying to do right by their kid and not able to get back to PGC to pick up before afterschool cut off time, or are getting help with aftercare from gramma. Some move after a divorce. I know it's wrong but of all the things my DC tax money is being wasted on, giving these precious children who will probably live and work in this area their whole lives a better education is not a big problem for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids attend a charter school in dc. At drop off I saw kids drop off pre-k kid from car with new MD tags (more than one day so I don't think it is fluke). Not sure if they are cheating abut plan on reporting, just in case. It will be pretty easy to determine if the family lives in DC. IF they are cheating, they should be not be allowed to attend. THat simple!

There plenty of families of divorce where one former spouse lives in one jurisdiction and one lives in another. It could be this. Or I know several families who have familily members (mainly grandparents) in a different jurisdiction who do some drop off and pickups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are pretty certain that a number of the families who attend with my DD at an east of the park school in NW live in Prince George's County. They may be using an old address or a relative's. I think some of the moms are just middle class people trying to do right by their kid and not able to get back to PGC to pick up before afterschool cut off time, or are getting help with aftercare from gramma. Some move after a divorce. I know it's wrong but of all the things my DC tax money is being wasted on, giving these precious children who will probably live and work in this area their whole lives a better education is not a big problem for me.

Unless, of course, they're taking spots in a sought-after school that kids in DC are not getting.

I think that this is scamming, plain and simple. There were a number of PG residents in my kid's DCPS elementary school, and the crossing guard once explained that they were the kids of DC government workers who had pulled some strings that he (as a DC resident) didn't have to get his kids into an OOB school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids attend a charter school in dc. At drop off I saw kids drop off pre-k kid from car with new MD tags (more than one day so I don't think it is fluke). Not sure if they are cheating abut plan on reporting, just in case. It will be pretty easy to determine if the family lives in DC. IF they are cheating, they should be not be allowed to attend. THat simple!

There plenty of families of divorce where one former spouse lives in one jurisdiction and one lives in another. It could be this. Or I know several families who have familily members (mainly grandparents) in a different jurisdiction who do some drop off and pickups.

That's true, but these cases don't explain the volume of kids who arrive in Maryland cars every day. I know that many view PG as "Ward 9" but DC taxpayers have to get serious about diverting scarce resources and OOB spots from deserving kids who live in the city, versus those who shuttle in because their parents want more convenient after-care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are pretty certain that a number of the families who attend with my DD at an east of the park school in NW live in Prince George's County. They may be using an old address or a relative's. I think some of the moms are just middle class people trying to do right by their kid and not able to get back to PGC to pick up before afterschool cut off time, or are getting help with aftercare from gramma. Some move after a divorce. I know it's wrong but of all the things my DC tax money is being wasted on, giving these precious children who will probably live and work in this area their whole lives a better education is not a big problem for me.

The problem with this is that these precious children grow up to be teenagers with not enough supervision (from increasingly elderly grandma) who hang around my neighborhood at all hours, regardless of city-wide curfew, because they consider it to be their home turf. They are the ones tagging stop signs, smoking blunts on our public playground, and I worry that they are committing worse offenses. And then my DC tax money gets to be used for even more things. . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are pretty certain that a number of the families who attend with my DD at an east of the park school in NW live in Prince George's County. They may be using an old address or a relative's. I think some of the moms are just middle class people trying to do right by their kid and not able to get back to PGC to pick up before afterschool cut off time, or are getting help with aftercare from gramma. Some move after a divorce. I know it's wrong but of all the things my DC tax money is being wasted on, giving these precious children who will probably live and work in this area their whole lives a better education is not a big problem for me.

Unless, of course, they're taking spots in a sought-after school that kids in DC are not getting.

I think that this is scamming, plain and simple. There were a number of PG residents in my kid's DCPS elementary school, and the crossing guard once explained that they were the kids of DC government workers who had pulled some strings that he (as a DC resident) didn't have to get his kids into an OOB school.

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Why are those precious children more precious than the DC kids who didn't get those spots because PG parents lied to get their kids in? I don't get it. I understand that all parents want the best for their kids, but if you know you are lying/cheating to get that best, you cannot be upset when you get busted. Those spots are for DC-dwelling children (or tuition-paying non-DC dwelling children), and I just will not stand by and watch people cheat the system if I notice it.

[Anonymous]

***My impression is that the average MCPS is much better than the average DCPS, but the best DCPSs give the best MCPSs a run for their money.***

Yes, this, but you can't tell that to the parents in Wood Acres because they just sunk their entire savings into that down payment for the 1952 neo-Colonial.

That said, I am a divorced mom in the Janney district whose ex moved from Dupont to Bethesda --- to keep our school options open for DCs. They can continue in DCPS with my address, they can attend ES or MS in Bethesda with xH's address. Currently xH picks up kids from DCPS twice a week in his car with Maryland plates. Someday in the future, I may be dropping them off at Pyle in my car with DC plates.

But, Deal is the front-runner at this time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:***My impression is that the average MCPS is much better than the average DCPS, but the best DCPSs give the best MCPSs a run for their money.***

Yes, this, but you can't tell that to the parents in Wood Acres because they just sunk their entire savings into that down payment for the 1952 neo-Colonial.

That said, I am a divorced mom in the Janney district whose ex moved from Dupont to Bethesda --- to keep our school options open for DCs. They can continue in DCPS with my address, they can attend ES or MS in Bethesda with xH's address. Currently xH picks up kids from DCPS twice a week in his car with Maryland plates. Someday in the future, I may be dropping them off at Pyle in my car with DC plates.

But, Deal is the front-runner at this time.

Is there such a thing as a "good divorce"? It sounds as if the two of you might have done it.

[Anonymous]

A MD got kicked out of our DCPS school last week. 3 kids at our school, where in boundary children are wait listed in preschool. the whole family was well dressed- the parents were professionals. Oh, and the 4 year old was mean to my 4 year old. I do feel sorry for the kids of the family, but it is not right.

I wonder how many PG residents are at Hobson. I'd like my OOB son to go there in a couple years, and we pay a lot of taxes in DC!

[Anonymous]

OP here. Not a troll. I was just kind of surprised by how matter of fact the conversations were about doing this. Like there was nothing wrong at all.
The Virginia person lives in Alexandria, and I know from looking at houses there that there are some very non-desirable schools there. I also think the prek issue is at play as the kid is young.
The Maryland people are Pg county, not Montgomery county.
I did not say anything calling them out on it as I am newish there, and am a professional, and they are paraprofessionals so the dynamic is s but weird for me to immediately say something, when it was more of a conversation they were having with me at the same table.