CogAt or Fairfax Test?

[Anonymous]

I am the mom for the previous post. BTW, the test I bought from Amazon is the cheapest one but still cost close to $17 for just one full length test.

[Anonymous]

PP: you are a loser.

[Anonymous]

PP at 14:56--Just curious, why are you doing all this prepping? Do you believe that your son is truly gifted and unable to have his learning and social needs met in the general education classroom? Has he always been the kid that teachers describe as an "out of the box" thinker? Does he struggle with friendships because he doesn't have peers with his intellectual stamina?

And can you share more about why you were "disappointed" by his 4-6 mistakes?

[Anonymous]

I am checking my son's wrong answers now. For reading "picture analogies", he got the 3rd question wrong. It is a dog seeing a vet and then a baby seeing ... choices. My son has never been to the vet so he has no idea of the pic. I have to explain to him. The second wrong answer is q7, the one with a road -> car; and a sea -> ?, he thought the sea is the sky so got airplane than the boat. To be honest, my initial answer was the same as his until I checked the right answer and used my glasses to notice it is sea, not the sky.
Sentence completion has no mistakes
Picture classification he has wrong answers for 16, 17 and 18. I can't blame him cause I could not find the right answers either. I am only able to get them right after checking the answer sheet. Another mistake is carelessness.

Very interesting test! So glad I bought the book.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP at 14:56--Just curious, why are you doing all this prepping? Do you believe that your son is truly gifted and unable to have his learning and social needs met in the general education classroom? Has he always been the kid that teachers describe as an "out of the box" thinker? Does he struggle with friendships because he doesn't have peers with his intellectual stamina?

And can you share more about why you were "disappointed" by his 4-6 mistakes?

Yes I believe he is an advanced learner! Several people, including his pediatrician told me he needs additional challenge.
I am disappointed at the number of mistakes cause I thought he could do better. I was hoping for 0-3 mistakes per category. Some posters said to be in the pool, kids can only make 2 mistakes for the math.
I am doing this because my son got 99% for NNAT last year. At that time we did not pay attention so there was absolutely no prep nor talk or anything. We had never thought he needed AAP before we received his test result. Now with things developing, I just want to make sure he gets what he needs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP: you are a loser.

I will be more than happy to be a loser if my child gets an education he needs.
BTW, we did not send him to any prep course. I bought the book from curiosity and now am glad I did. I don't think doing the practice test is just for test prep. The questions are interesting and logical and they can make a person think.

Before today, I was firmly a non-prep mom. Now I am a happy loser

[Anonymous]

Thanks. Again, do you think he isn't getting his needs met in the general education classroom?

[Anonymous]

I think she already answered that question. Moving on...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK preppers, I just found out that my DD made a pact with her best friend to both "fail" the test so they can stay at their base school together. You can prep all you want, but apparently, these kids have their own free will. Who knew?

I love it. Sometimes the kids are smarter than the parents. Can you say p-r-e-s-s-u-r-e???? Best "prep" this weekend is fresh air, exercise, have fun, and a good night's sleep. Oh, and don't forget a healthy breakfast the morning of "THE TEST".

Or endless hours of watching tv and/or playing video games.

Exercise, fresh air, reading, a little mental math, and of course, hours of games and TV. For us, including a 2- hour test prep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks. Again, do you think he isn't getting his needs met in the general education classroom?

A good question. I went to the classroom three times so far and here is my observation. The teacher is fabulous and she stretches the materials to challenge the kids. However, there are a few kids in the classroom who keep asking basic questions and the whole class has to wait. My son loses interests during those conversations and starts to play. By the time the teacher and the class are ready to move on, he is so into his own playing that he does not pay attention anymore. At this point he is the distractor for the class cause he is not even looking up when the teacher is talking.
I feel that the AAP will have a group of kids who are similar in pace of learning so he will be constantly challenged and stimulated. However, as many people, I often doubt whether an AAP is even necessary. That is why I am eager to see the CogAT score to help me understand his needs. If he goes not make to the pool for at least one other category (he is already in the pool of nonverbal), we are not going to refer him to the AAP.

[Anonymous]

PP, he is already in the pool if his NNAT was 99%. He will automatically be considered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, he is already in the pool if his NNAT was 99%. He will automatically be considered.

I leaned that last week at the info session. But the AAP teacher said for English-speaking kids, the reading and math are stronger predictors for success.
My husband does not believe in AAP. He thinks my son should stay in GE to be a leader than to go to the AAP in the lower pack. Right now I don't have a strong opinion yet. My son's favorite activity is video games and math. I checked the gifted behaviors and could only identify a few. We have not seen anything extraordinary yet... That is why the test is important. If the behaviors are clear cut, you don't even need to see the test score to know what is the right thing. In his case, it seems that he can go either way. The pediatrician said boys are harder to predict from behaviors - is that true?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, he is already in the pool if his NNAT was 99%. He will automatically be considered.

I leaned that last week at the info session. But the AAP teacher said for English-speaking kids, the reading and math are stronger predictors for success.
My husband does not believe in AAP. He thinks my son should stay in GE to be a leader than to go to the AAP in the lower pack. Right now I don't have a strong opinion yet. My son's favorite activity is video games and math. I checked the gifted behaviors and could only identify a few. We have not seen anything extraordinary yet... That is why the test is important. If the behaviors are clear cut, you don't even need to see the test score to know what is the right thing. In his case, it seems that he can go either way. The pediatrician said boys are harder to predict from behaviors - is that true?

I have no idea, but it interesting to me that your pediatrician contributes so much to the conversation of academic needs. Ours, and most I've heard of, only screen for developmental delays -

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am checking my son's wrong answers now. For reading "picture analogies", he got the 3rd question wrong. It is a dog seeing a vet and then a baby seeing ... choices. My son has never been to the vet so he has no idea of the pic. I have to explain to him. The second wrong answer is q7, the one with a road -> car; and a sea -> ?, he thought the sea is the sky so got airplane than the boat. To be honest, my initial answer was the same as his until I checked the right answer and used my glasses to notice it is sea, not the sky.
Sentence completion has no mistakes
Picture classification he has wrong answers for 16, 17 and 18. I can't blame him cause I could not find the right answers either. I am only able to get them right after checking the answer sheet. Another mistake is carelessness.

Very interesting test! So glad I bought the book.

Maybe neither you nor your child are "gifted"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK preppers, I just found out that my DD made a pact with her best friend to both "fail" the test so they can stay at their base school together. You can prep all you want, but apparently, these kids have their own free will. Who knew?

Now these are two gifted children