Lyin' Ryan: Sub 3:00 Marathon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:"In an interview with radio host Hugh Hewitt last week, Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan said he's run a sub-3:00 marathon."

"Runner's World checked 11 years of results for Grandma's Marathon, from 1988 through 1998, and found a finisher in the 1990 race by the name of Paul D. Ryan, 20, of Minneapolis."

"The finishing time listed was 4 hours, 1 minute and 25 seconds."

http://news.runnersworld.com/2012/08/31/paul-ryan-says-hes-run-sub-300-marathon/

Is it a big deal that Paul Ryan claimed to have run a marathon more than an hour faster than he actually did? No, if that was the only lie he has told recently, it wouldn't be a big deal. But, after the whoppers he told during his nomination speech, this guy is starting to look pathological.

I've run three marathons, and I could tell you my best time down to the hundredth of a second. Lying is reprehensible. But on behalf of all runners, this guy broke the code! NEVER lie about your times!

That's what I don't get. I can't see how the guy could forget his personal best by over an hour!

[Anonymous]

I totally forgive Biden exaggerating his golf game, and think it was childish of Kasich to out him about it. I also don't give a damn about Ryan's memory inflating his achievement of 20 years ago.

But omitting that he voted against Simpson-Bowles while castigating Obama for not acting on it, or claiming that putting Medicare on vouchers that would soon make it unaffordable to many of those who need it most will "save" it, or the plant-closing story -- those are significant.

[Anonymous]

Breaking 3 hours on a marathon is a significant achievement and no runner would forget that. The difference between running 26 miles at a 6.5min mile and at a 9 min mile is huge.

[Anonymous]

The equivalent in golf would actually be saying you finished x under par or got a hole-in-one

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Runners are obsessed with their pace. There's no way he forgot or misremembered. He lied.

The Dubya legacy lives on.

Well, irregardless, there's a stink of Lyin' Ryan in the air, even if his lie wasn't about something nucular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I totally forgive Biden exaggerating his golf game, and think it was childish of Kasich to out him about it. I also don't give a damn about Ryan's memory inflating his achievement of 20 years ago.
But omitting that he voted against Simpson-Bowles while castigating Obama for not acting on it, or claiming that putting Medicare on vouchers that would soon make it unaffordable to many of those who need it most will "save" it, or the plant-closing story -- those are significant.

We have a winner, folks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So lies about golf handicap are acceptable fibs but lies about 20 yr old marathon time and I'm rethinking my vote? That's fine but not rational.

actually, i think about all the grief the right gave Clinton about cheating at golf and am waiting for expressions of the same umbrage here.

[Anonymous]

Here's the apology. Oh his brother gave him a good ribbing about it over dinner!

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/01/13611931-paul-ryan-says-he-misstated-marathon-claim?lite

I suppose when seniors have to pay for 3/4 of their medical care because the government did nothing o contain cost, he'll get a "good ribbing" about that too.

[Anonymous]

No wonder he felt compelled to lie. Sarah Palin has an official marathon time faster than his. Actually, though. It's probably just a chronic case of narcissism. Being so egocentic probably is rooted in his muse's masterpiece, "The Virtue of Selfishness.".

[Anonymous]

As a native Minnesotan, may I just add one comment? Grandma's Marathon is considered a particularly fast (easy) course. So he lied his hour-sized lie about a course that is known to be less challenging. Weak.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if his budget is also 1/3 bigger than he told us.

[Anonymous]

The actual transcript from the interview, as cited on http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/01/1126777/-Paul-Ryan-Al-Bundy-and-why-sports-don-t-build-character-they-reveal-it:

And for those who might still believe that Ryan’s tongue simply slipped, look again at what he said:

H. H.: Are you still running?
P. R.: Yeah, I hurt a disc in my back, so I don’t run marathons anymore. I just run ten miles or [less].
H. H.: But you did run marathons at some point?
P. R.: Yeah, but I can’t do it anymore, because my back is just not that great.
H. H.: I’ve just gotta ask, what’s your personal best?
P. R.: Under three, high twos. I had a two hour and fifty-something.
H. H.: Holy smokes. All right, now you go down to Miami University…
P. R.: I was fast when I was younger, yeah.

[Anonymous]

That is just so weird. Why did he lie so blatantly about something so easy to check??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The actual transcript from the interview, as cited on http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/01/1126777/-Paul-Ryan-Al-Bundy-and-why-sports-don-t-build-character-they-reveal-it:

And for those who might still believe that Ryan’s tongue simply slipped, look again at what he said:

H. H.: Are you still running?
P. R.: Yeah, I hurt a disc in my back, so I don’t run marathons anymore. I just run ten miles or [less].
H. H.: But you did run marathons at some point?
P. R.: Yeah, but I can’t do it anymore, because my back is just not that great.
H. H.: I’ve just gotta ask, what’s your personal best?
P. R.: Under three, high twos. I had a two hour and fifty-something.
H. H.: Holy smokes. All right, now you go down to Miami University…
P. R.: I was fast when I was younger, yeah.

The irony is that Hugh Hewitt's introduction to the interview included this:

Because biography is character and character often matters much more to voters than policy prescriptions, I chose to focus on Ryan's youth, which included stints in McDonald's, working corn fields and painting houses. (The Dominican nuns who had him in elemtary school are retired now but I expect someone from MSNBC is lurking around the Chapter House.)

That caused me to chuckle twice. Once because he is saying why the guy's early years are so important to cover, and two because he was so sure that the liberal media is out to get the guy. Little did he know that HE is the true threat, for asking simple questions and then recording Ryan's actual answers.

[Anonymous]

Did he claim to found McDonalds? That he could pick three acres of corn in an hour? Paint ten houses in half a day?