This is one troubled young man (James Holmes court appearance)

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Anonymous wrote:My money's on recent psychotic break from schizophrenia.


+100. Happened to my brother in his early 20s - up until then, perfectly normal. Graduated early from college with excellent grades, scored 99th percentile on LSAT . . . then, BOOM. Totally out of the blue. Fortunately he was never violent.
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Anonymous wrote:Only on DCUM is this evil murderer called a "young man" while Trayvon Martin is labeled a thug.




Is that what he was labeled here in DCUM??? I am the OP and I am still sure that Zimmerman is the thug, not Trayvon. And about this guy trying to play mental games i don't think so. He is delusional.
Yeah, I think that probably the people who are sympathetic to Trayvon are more likely to be the ones sympathetic to Holmes. I think the ones who called Trayvon a thug are probably the ones who are arguing against gun control in the Holmes' threads.




Wrong. I don't see any correlation. Trayvon didn't kill anyone it was he who was defending himself from a crazy psycho who was following him (and had a gun). For Zimmerman it was basically"I don't like you, You are a thug, you can attack me, I kill you". In the case of Holmes there are more layers. He is mentally ill (I know that there is nothing on this, it is my judgement), He is so delusional that he believed to be someone fictitious and killed people. He probably goes back and forth from reality to fiction and what we saw in the court room is a troubled person. Gun control could have saved not only this but other shooting sprees. The argument that if guns were allowed would have permitted others to defend themselves is incredibly stupid. In the first place you forbid everyone to have a gun so no one has to "defend" themselves. What is the US going to be? like the Far West was in the past? is that how people want to live?
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>>Okay, I won't make any guesses about the intentions of anyone on DCUM because it's just prejudiced. Fine.<<

As far as I am concern you are free to make the number of guesses that you want. this is a forum not a trial.
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Anonymous wrote:My money's on recent psychotic break from schizophrenia.

This is what I thought too. Even before seeing today's video of him.
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Anonymous wrote:Only on DCUM is this evil murderer called a "young man" while Trayvon Martin is labeled a thug.


Thank you!!! A young black kid who happens to be wearing a hoodie in teh "wrong" part of town is a thug who deserved to get killed but a man you hatched a plan to kill as many people as he could is a just a "troubled young man".
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Anonymous wrote:Sane people sometimes kill one person...usually related to some other violent crime. Crazy people dye their hair red and kill dozens of innocent strangers at a movie. He is crazy. And I'm sure signs started during his teen years.


If this guy is crazy and his parents did not act, they are just as guilty. It's amazing the way in which white people will defend their own.

Some of you need a serious reality check.


Yeah, just like with O.J. Oh, never mind....
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Anonymous wrote:Of course he is mentally ill...sane people don't think hey are a cartoon character and kill people. Plus, the media has reported that his parents knew something was wrong with him. Sad.


Sane people kill people all the time. This could all be an elaborate ploy to trick the system. This guy is smart...he just might get away with it. This asshole doesn't think he's the Joker...he wants you to think he does.


My guess? University of CO is going to be in DEEP sh*t.

Everyone is focused on the "he's crazy" and he will play it that way, but he got all of the chemicals via the university, the university failed him on his exams and, likely, did nothing. They probably didn't even refer him to a counselor or dean. It will be easy for his team to show that he was mentally abused by the university and the breaking point was failing the exams. The university did nothing to help him so he spiraled into madness and went on a shooting spree.

It's not going to be an easy conviction. And I think UofCO needs to be held liable and made example of to other universities that don't give a crap about grad students.


You definitely have a point, however, VA Tech seems to have gotten away with not referring Cho to counseling. How is U of Co different?


That's true, although they lost the civil lawsuit which is what counts. The university is remaining very tight-lipped for a reason. I'm guessing they have culpability and they know it.


I love how the university is going to be blamed, while Smith & Wesson and Remington have no culpability whatsoever. This country is ridiculous.
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A "troubled" young man? Such an odd choice of words, OP. I would describe a troubled young man as one who has, say, a drinking problem or too many speeding tickets.

This one is nothing short of demon-possessed.
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to 18:88,
Yeah, you are probably right.
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They should just extradite him to Texas, for "expedited justice."
Anonymous
Two of the three men on death row in CO were out there by this case's prosecutor, so I expect the death penalty is on the table.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My money's on recent psychotic break from schizophrenia.


+100. Happened to my brother in his early 20s - up until then, perfectly normal. Graduated early from college with excellent grades, scored 99th percentile on LSAT . . . then, BOOM. Totally out of the blue. Fortunately he was never violent.



I'm in total agreement as well. For those who've known/seen the face of mental illness, it's chilling and so very sad.
Anonymous
To all the idiots posting about black vs white... STFU!!!! You are ruining this thread and others with your race war comments!!! GO AWAY
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sane people sometimes kill one person...usually related to some other violent crime. Crazy people dye their hair red and kill dozens of innocent strangers at a movie. He is crazy. And I'm sure signs started during his teen years.


If this guy is crazy and his parents did not act, they are just as guilty. It's amazing the way in which white people will defend their own.

Some of you need a serious reality check.


Yeah, just like with O.J. Oh, never mind....


+ 1
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jsteele wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only on DCUM is this evil murderer called a "young man" while Trayvon Martin is labeled a thug.


Well there you have it. I agree.


Ditto.



James Holmes has been called quite a few things on DCUM. Trayvon Martin was also called a variety of terms, including "young man":

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/105/235774.page#2426964

You are cherry picking two terms out of many to make a point. But, I think you are actually illustrating that a large spectrum of viewpoints are available on DCUM. If that makes DCUM unique (I don't actually think it does), then it is something of which we should all be proud.



That may be true, but the level of sympathy for this person, in the absence of a single statement or real evidence of hardship in his life, is striking. I think that sympathy would largely evaporate if he was a muslim. But much like with the Huguely case, many posters are looking to causes other than "evil". And I think much of the reason is that he looks like one of our kids.
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