You say it's a tax, and you say that a tax is not a Constitutional problem. If you listen, you will hear what SCOTUS is likely to say, namely that what counts is what it is, not what someone called it in the vain hope that some Republicans might overcome their fear of Grover Norquist and vote for health care reform. It is functionally a tax, and that should be what counts. Stop calling people arrogant because they play word games; this one is nothing compared to the fetus/child game that tears the country apart. |
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Conservatives had no trouble fucking with the constitution when it came to pot. Interstate commerce my ass Even Thomas said It was no more interstate than a bucket of chicken. But feel free to be the party of constitutional convenience. Switch back and forth as often as it suits you. |
This is a childish response..... or simply a comment made by a poorly educated adult. |
No it's not. You are extremely repetitive and you deserve the "blah blah blah". The fact is that most of government spending is for four functions (1) the elderly, (2) the poor, (3) security, and (4) public infrastructure. Unless you want to get rid of medicare, medicaid, social security, or defense, you can't really change "big" government into "small" government. Medicare is reimbursement. Effectively all of the services are performed by the private sector. Social security is reimbursement. Defense is already outsourced to the extent that it can be. And the same goes for infrastructure. You can quibble about the money spent on the rest of the agencies, but none of it adds up to "big" government. |
I'm repetitive? I've posted maybe three times in this entire political forum.... hardly a blabbermouth. Might it be you who is repeating himself like an annoying two year old who keeps asking for more cookies? Were you one of those snot-nosed little brats in preschool, who arrived in dirty clothes and then whined all day? When you grabbed the other kid's toys, did your mother, instead of correcting you, tell the other kid to SHARE? Are you now one those arrogant pricks who thinks another man's wealth is yours? Yeah, I think I've got your number...... |
That's me you're quoting... First of all, what makes you think I am a liberal? I think you would be quite surprised by my views but then again, you know what happens when you assume, right? You make an ass out of U + me. Now ... enlighten us, o wise one... what are your experience and credentials in Constitutional interpretation? How many appellate cases have your argued based on Federal constitutional grounds, or what courses in it have you taken? It sounds like your just a Faux News poseur with barely any intellectual heft to your point, just some f-words and diatribes.... about what I might expect. |
PP here, some of those "your" should be "you're" of course...
and to the genius who quoted me with such disdain ... what will you say about supposed liberal twisting of the Consitution if the day comes when Congress passes a mandatory single payer universal coverage (socialized medicine!), which every single member of the Court said was absolutely acceptable and has no Constitutional infirmities? You'll be just fine with that, right? .... Right? .... |
I gave you some content and you passed it by. I think we have YOUR number. |
WE? What, you got a crowd inside your head? Or are you just one of those limp-dick liberals who has to hide his pansy-ass in group think bullshit? Speak for yourself.... go ahead, you can do it. |
WE? What, you got a crowd inside your head? Or are you just one of those limp-dick liberals who has to hide his pansy-ass in group think bullshit? Speak for yourself.... go ahead, you can do it. Man, you really are utterly incapable of presenting a coherent well thought argument rather than just short nasty 10th grade attacks, aren't you? Reflects very well on you and your point of view. Good job ... |
Uh, you are ranting at multiple posters. That should be obvious. If you would like to talk about the size of government, please do so. If you want to get red faced and stomp around some more, feel free to do that, too. I had a feeling you were about an inch deep on this topic, and this pretty much proves it. |
Since we're an anonymous list, for the most part, it makes little sense to criticize the posters as opposed to the content. It's especially unfortunate here, when there are actual substantive issues.
My favorite question in this thread is still whether the mandate will be declared unconstitutional based on the purely notational issue of whether something is called a tax or a penalty and/or the chronological issue of when it occurs. My guess is that Kennedy and Roberts will be embarrassed to do so and that Roberts will write a reluctant opinion for the 6 - 3 majority, affirming that the will of Congress must be respected, even when it is imperfect. The broccolli/what brand of car we have to buy/slippery slope argument seems to me to be the silliest aspect of this. All sorts of behavior become illegal when carried to extremes. Can you imagine arresting someone for taking his hat off on grounds that sooner or later that kind of behavior leads to indecent exposure? |
Man, you really are utterly incapable of presenting a coherent well thought argument rather than just short nasty 10th grade attacks, aren't you? Blah, blah, blah. Go protest in front of one of Al Gore's mansions. Maybe he'll throw you a buck if you don't defecate on his new car. |
Btw the above is yet another poster. |