I think I'm getting fired tomorrow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HR is not your friend. I don't know where this myth of "Report to HR and they will help you!" comes from, but it is bogus. HR REPRESENTS THE COMPANY, NOT EMPLOYEES.

OP here. I totally agree. HR is not there to help employees, it is there to protect a company's interests. In my company, anyone who reports stuff to HR ends up getting fired.

[Anonymous]

Such a depressing thread! OP, you need to document everything, and send emails to your boss documenting your recent conversation. You sound so burned out. It's horrible to get fired (it's happened to me once), but not the end of the world. And it's a result of bad management. A good company manages out the employees who are not working out. My company only fires people for egregious behavior (sexual harassment or criminal acts, etc.), and works with people who are under performing. If employees can't improve, they usually leave after repeated poor performance evaluations.

You've been warned now, so do your best to prepare to leave, and find a new job pronto. Document everything in the meantime, including your boss's comment and her laughter. Describe using unemotional language.

Best of luck. You'll be so much happier when you find a new job.

[Anonymous]

This is ILLEGAL.
Reporting may not help you...but may someone down the line who decides to file action against them...at least they have a paper trail of this ILLEGAL pattern of behaviour.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HR is not your friend. I don't know where this myth of "Report to HR and they will help you!" comes from, but it is bogus. HR REPRESENTS THE COMPANY, NOT EMPLOYEES.

OP here. I totally agree. HR is not there to help employees, it is there to protect a company's interests. In my company, anyone who reports stuff to HR ends up getting fired.

[Anonymous]

11:10 here. DH was not fired THANK GOD. He was given a fairly negative review, but with the sense that he could meet those benchmarks and really improve. And he finally admitted to himself/me that he does have some performance issues stemming from failure to listen or meet deadlines and is addressing them finally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any advice for me?
I was reprimanded for not doing my timesheets daily, sending out a power point presentation that I later modified, but the initial draft was poor, this doc issue happened 6 months ago. I still got flamed for it now.
I agree that the pp prep was poor, but so were their list of requirements of what they wanted on it.
I cannot wait to get out. Just not bothered to document.
Why would a company refuse to let the employee collect unemployment? Could that really happen to me too

Unemployment claims raise the company's unemployment insurance tax rate.

Yes, they can do it. When my friend was let go they told her she could resign (not qualify for unemployment) or be fired (she could file for unemployment but if she filed for unemployment that they would fight it.) She ended up resigning and taking a meager pay-out because she was afraid of losing the unemployment claim.

Is this all legal?

[Anonymous]

My boss held me at work 5 hours past my time and I had to be back at work in the morning, I overslept and now she's mad at me cause no one was there to open...... I think I'm fired

[Anonymous]

I was fired once and it was the best thing that ever happenef to me. I was treated badly by the organization and now that I look back on it, they were planning on letting me go from the very beginning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was fired once and it was the best thing that ever happenef to me. I was treated badly by the organization and now that I look back on it, they were planning on letting me go from the very beginning.

Same thing happened to me and I cannot figure out why they even hired me in the first place. It's tough but you have to put it behind you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was fired once and it was the best thing that ever happenef to me. I was treated badly by the organization and now that I look back on it, they were planning on letting me go from the very beginning.

Same thing happened to me and I cannot figure out why they even hired me in the first place. It's tough but you have to put it behind you.

+1, though I know why they hired me and why they fired me. Boss wanted to date me. When I wouldn't, down came the ax. At the time I was crushed because they tried to make it a performance issue and I am so self-critical that I internalized it as a personal failure. When I got older and less naive I realized what the real deal was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would not let this pass...I would make a report to HR...in her pocket or not...her performance is horrendous...
document, document, document....
what is the worst that can happen...u get fired?
U figured that was coming anyway....but this looney should not be allowed to get away with this...

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I didn't get fired, but was "warned" that my performance is "questionable" and tht there needs to be a change "or else". It is bogus, bc of my team of 8 people, my performance is #2, based on numbers/results/relationships with colleagues, etc. This woman hates me and is trying to force me out. Can't go to HR bc they are in her pocket (hr director is her BFF). So, now the for real job search begins. Thank goodness my company does not give any references at all, so they can't totally burn me in looking for something else.

When we were on the phone (she manages me remotely) she actually said to me, "gosh, you feel pretty bad now, huh?" and then laughed for about 30 seconds. It was awful.

Thanks for all the advice. Hopefully I can find something new before getting fired, but maybe I need some time off to get myt head together for something new.

I am a COO at a large company. I've been COO at a few companies with HR reporting to me. Usually, most HR people will allow the employee to get unemployment. Ask for it if you get fired. If you ask, they will usually grant it. Easier than the pain of extending the torture for everyone. Also, document, document, document. Memos to file, etc. That way, if they do fire you and have a file, you will have yours also. Sometimes it is easier to give in than to fight. Fighting is exhausting and you don't want to work with the woman. The sad part is that many times, HR is going to figure out how to help your boss and may not serve your needs. They are constantly thinking about how to avoid a lawsuit.

I have had to leave a job twice. Once when I hated the job and we mutually agreed that it was time for me to go and the other was for political reasons. I felt like shit both times, but boy am I GREATFUL. Now I have a wonderful boss and have learned a lot over the years. I do not ding people who've been fired. I understand that situations get complicated and sometimes it is just not a good fit. We've all been there. Some of my best employees had been fired in the past.

[Anonymous]

Dh fought a bogus unemployment decision and won. He was the fourth person in the job in a year and had a positive review immediately before pissing off insane insecure boss by solving a problem boss never could.

The company contests every claim automatically, but HR is too fucking lazy to do the work to uphold it. They just hope people will take no for an answer. Like health insurance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was fired once and it was the best thing that ever happenef to me. I was treated badly by the organization and now that I look back on it, they were planning on letting me go from the very beginning.

Same thing happened to me and I cannot figure out why they even hired me in the first place. It's tough but you have to put it behind you.

+1, though I know why they hired me and why they fired me. Boss wanted to date me. When I wouldn't, down came the ax. At the time I was crushed because they tried to make it a performance issue and I am so self-critical that I internalized it as a personal failure. When I got older and less naive I realized what the real deal was.

I respect you. I wish I worked in your company.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would not let this pass...I would make a report to HR...in her pocket or not...her performance is horrendous...
document, document, document....
what is the worst that can happen...u get fired?
U figured that was coming anyway....but this looney should not be allowed to get away with this...

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I didn't get fired, but was "warned" that my performance is "questionable" and tht there needs to be a change "or else". It is bogus, bc of my team of 8 people, my performance is #2, based on numbers/results/relationships with colleagues, etc. This woman hates me and is trying to force me out. Can't go to HR bc they are in her pocket (hr director is her BFF). So, now the for real job search begins. Thank goodness my company does not give any references at all, so they can't totally burn me in looking for something else.

When we were on the phone (she manages me remotely) she actually said to me, "gosh, you feel pretty bad now, huh?" and then laughed for about 30 seconds. It was awful.

Thanks for all the advice. Hopefully I can find something new before getting fired, but maybe I need some time off to get myt head together for something new.

I am a COO at a large company. I've been COO at a few companies with HR reporting to me. Usually, most HR people will allow the employee to get unemployment. Ask for it if you get fired. If you ask, they will usually grant it. Easier than the pain of extending the torture for everyone. Also, document, document, document. Memos to file, etc. That way, if they do fire you and have a file, you will have yours also. Sometimes it is easier to give in than to fight. Fighting is exhausting and you don't want to work with the woman. The sad part is that many times, HR is going to figure out how to help your boss and may not serve your needs. They are constantly thinking about how to avoid a lawsuit.

I have had to leave a job twice. Once when I hated the job and we mutually agreed that it was time for me to go and the other was for political reasons. I felt like shit both times, but boy am I GREATFUL. Now I have a wonderful boss and have learned a lot over the years. I do not ding people who've been fired. I understand that situations get complicated and sometimes it is just not a good fit. We've all been there. Some of my best employees had been fired in the past.

Isn't it fraudulent to game unemployment when in fact the employee was shit canned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

penguinsix wrote:Sounds like this is a good thing rather than a bad one. And to be honest, your family doesn't need to know you were fired--just that you left.

Is there anything in their systems you need? Personal emails or say a document or contact list? In some offices once fired you instantly lose computer access so if that might be a concern you could consider planning ahead.

On to better things...

I agree with you about housecleaning. I don't agree with you about lying to your family -- folks may get suspicious if you just up and leave without a job in the wings. At least I know my wife would get suspicious, and I don't want to get in the realm of getting up pretending to go to a job.

I'm assuming the PP is talking about extended family - not the spouse. No need for her to tell her parents, siblings, aunts and uncles that she was fired if she doesn't want to.

[Anonymous]

I'm getting fired too. Yes, it sucks. But also a blessing not to have to do the job I hate. Any advice on how to get fired? Is it better to get fired than to quit? I'm looking for practical advice. Does one qualify for unemployment after quitting? after getting fired?