I’m "closet" anti-LBGT

[Anonymous]

I don't understand how most people can be attracted to the person they are with. I'm not attracted to most people I meet and the idea of being with them repulses me. But it isn't related to being male or female.

Your position is that you think there is something mentally wrong with gay people but you don't know why you think that and you have no evidence to back it up?

I would guess that there is something inside you that drives you to hold this position and that it isn't actual belief in the position that is driving you. Figure out what that thing is and fix it.

[Anonymous]

I have two cousins who are gay. The ONLY reason they have emotional issues is because they had to hide who they truly were for so many years. Even after they came out, they were still not fully accepted by family members. One by his mother and the other by his father. They were loved, but not fully accepted as who they were. That will mess a person up.

The gay and lesbian men and women I have met who were allowed to be themselves and accepted from the get go are much more stable and comfortable in who they are.

It is sad to me that so many people cannot accept a person because of who they choose to love.

[Anonymous]

Do I think gay sex is ickly? yes, but I also find fat sex icky and old people sex icky. I also find it icky thinking about most of my friends having sex- however I understand that each of these people feel differently than I do.
as long as 2 people love eachother I dont think it matters what I think

[Anonymous]

"I am in a non-traditional heterosexual marriage"

Odd, you want acceptance of your life style (I'm guessing swinging), but are unwilling to accept gays having a monogamous relationship and getting married.

[Anonymous]

OP, tell us more about your "non traditional heterosexual marriage."

[Anonymous]

I received a chain email from a "friend" this week alerting me to the fact that marriage is under threat in Maryland. Oddly enough, this friend is divorced and subsequently has a child out of wedlock. All my gay friends, on the other hand, are in long-term monogamous relationships of many years. Not sure who is threatening whom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"I am in a non-traditional heterosexual marriage"

Odd, you want acceptance of your life style (I'm guessing swinging), but are unwilling to accept gays having a monogamous relationship and getting married.

I tend to think that people who swing are not quite emotionally healthy. And I'm far more worried about their having children than boring married gay couples.

[Anonymous]

Op I am not sure what you are asking for. Do you want to change your way of thinking or do you want assurance that you are not the only one. For me I try to stay out of other peoples bedrooms and not make judgements on lifestyle if someone is nice to me it's all good. What I do have a problem with is teaching gay lifestyle in schooling as I want to address sexuality with my kids and I am not interested in someone with an agenda doing it.

[Anonymous]

I'm convinced it is a choice, but that societal pressures repress many from making that choice. So while I don't really care about it, I don't think we should provide civil, protected-class, type rights on something that is basically a choice.

And by "choice", what I mean is that there is some homo-hetero spectrum. Maybe less than 1% are on the extreme homo side where they are solely that way, and maybe 50% are solely hetero on the other side. But I think a good percentage, say 10-15% each, are close enough to the middle where they could honestly go either way based on circumstances in their upbringing and based on their life experiences.

[Anonymous]

I’m OP. I am reading every single post and your thoughts are helpful to me. I had a feeling some people would suggest that I have gay/lesbian tendencies. Far, far from it. I am not a swinger. Neither do I fear or dislike LGBT people. I am just like most of the posters here – “normal”. There is one person I don’t care much for, that’s Rick Santorum. IMO, I think he really has major social (and political) issues. He is scary to me. But, you may recall that a few weeks ago Santorum had a back-n-forth exchange about gay marriage with a college student in NH, and I think he made some really valid points. Google it. One of his lines of questions was asking the students (and others in the audience) if they thought that people should be legally allowed to have multiple spouses. The audience’s response was a clear “no”. Well, Santorum went on from there… So, if you support gay marriage, do you also think that polygamy should be law?

Btw, the princess/princess book in the pre-school is totally crazy! That’s what I mean by “aggressive”.

[Anonymous]

Question for the anti-LBGT crowd -- a lot of people in this thread refer to an instinctive negative reaction to gay relationships, cringing when gay men kiss, flipping out when they see a preschool book about two princes (but not a prince and a princess), just "feeling like" homosexuality is a mental illness. Do you stop and think about (a) where this reaction is coming from and (b) whether it's a logical/appropriate response, or do you just give in to it? Because it seems to me that to decide that a segment of the population is wrong/gross/icky/abnormal/less deserving of rights and privileges is, frankly, a pretty big deal, and something that should be based on more than a knee-jerk reaction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m OP. I am reading every single post and your thoughts are helpful to me. I had a feeling some people would suggest that I have gay/lesbian tendencies. Far, far from it. I am not a swinger. Neither do I fear or dislike LGBT people. I am just like most of the posters here – “normal”. There is one person I don’t care much for, that’s Rick Santorum. IMO, I think he really has major social (and political) issues. He is scary to me. But, you may recall that a few weeks ago Santorum had a back-n-forth exchange about gay marriage with a college student in NH, and I think he made some really valid points. Google it. One of his lines of questions was asking the students (and others in the audience) if they thought that people should be legally allowed to have multiple spouses. The audience’s response was a clear “no”. Well, Santorum went on from there… So, if you support gay marriage, do you also think that polygamy should be law?

Btw, the princess/princess book in the pre-school is totally crazy! That’s what I mean by “aggressive”.

I support gay marriage, and I have absolutely no problem if we decide to legalize polygamy. If consenting adults want to get married, and that marriage has no real negative effect on society, then I see no reason to ban it.

That said, I think there are real differences between gay marriage and polygamy. First of all, practically speaking, our legal system is already set up to easily accommodate gay marriage. Spousal benefits, divorce law, child support, insurance, inheritance, etc., it's all based on a two-party contract, and there's no reason why a same-sex couple should cause any hiccups to the system. A marriage of three or more would be more difficult to accommodate -- how would we divide assets? Who would get survivor benefits? But I don't think that's an insurmountable obstacle.

I also think that the nature of a relationship between two people is different than one between three or more. I think the type of intimacy and trust is probably different (again, not better or worse, but different). But that's clearly no reason to ban polygamous marriage.

I know that, historically, polygamous marriages have lead to welfare fraud, child abuse, spousal abuse, etc. But we have laws already on the books to deal with that.

So, yeah. I have no problem with polygamous marriage. But I don't see us legalizing it any time soon, simply because the demand isn't there.

Here's a question for you, OP -- if the "two princes" preschool book is "aggressive," is a book about a prince and a princess an example of the aggressive heterosexual agenda?

[Anonymous]

"sex-crazed pigs" -- you have just described all men, straight or gay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm convinced it is a choice, but that societal pressures repress many from making that choice. So while I don't really care about it, I don't think we should provide civil, protected-class, type rights on something that is basically a choice.

And by "choice", what I mean is that there is some homo-hetero spectrum. Maybe less than 1% are on the extreme homo side where they are solely that way, and maybe 50% are solely hetero on the other side. But I think a good percentage, say 10-15% each, are close enough to the middle where they could honestly go either way based on circumstances in their upbringing and based on their life experiences.

Have you ever had a family member that is gay? Did you get to see them grow up? I have a gay family member. Let me tell you, I knew from the time he was 5 that he was going to be gay. For what it's worth, him and his straight brother were raised exactly the same. It's really not a choice and I can't believe people actually think that.

[Anonymous]

I am pretty sure I am not mentally ill (I am a therapist.) I have been with my wife for 15 years. We have 2 kids. We drive carpool, go to work in professional jobs, coach one kids soccer team, participate in the PTA, pay our taxes, care for aging parents, make healthy dinners for the kids, own our home....I am pretty sure our existence is pretty similar to yours.