I’m "closet" anti-LBGT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know I was until recently. I have a ton of very close gay ans some lesbian friends. Some are even married with kids.

I consider myself socially liberal.

Then, I picked up a book in my son's preschool and was freaked out that it was about two princes that fall in love. He's only 3. I'm not ready for him to be taught this stuff in school. I csnt explain it, but hes 3 and i prefer the traditional prince/princess scenario at this age. It's fine he knows that so and so has 2 daddies or mommies- but for some reason the book weirded me out.

In his preschool?? I would have flipped my shit.

This is where I agree with the OP, that is an agressive agenda for sure.

But how will either of you handle it when your young children see affection between 2 people of the same sex in public and ask about it? Ignore, punt, flip your shit? FWIW, it would make me uncomfortable too but I see it as an opportunity to normalize it for my kids to avoid it being a big deal later.

[Anonymous]

While many are born gay, there are many that also choose it.

I'm all for equal rights, but don't agree with gay marriage. I'm ok with gays adopting if they are in LTRs.

I, like another poster, am turned off by a certain segment of the gay population who are horn-dogs, looking to screw wherever and whenever. But I'm guessing that's just a horny guy thing.

I also love lesbian porn. Like another poster mentioned, I like a lot of kinky porn. Couldn't imagine being with a woman unless I was high (and therefore completely horny).

Saying someone is a closet homosexual because they don't "get" gays is a bit extreme.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

How do you explain those kids that already have the gay lisp and are designing clothes and sashaying around at 10 years old? This shit definitely didn't happen when I was a kid--nor did boys trying to kiss boys on the elementary school playground.

Hm, I had a gay friend in elementary school, in a small conservative town. Of course, he didn't know he was gay... he dated girls til college. But the adults sure knew! I remember my parents snickering about his mannerisms and joking about his future husband (when they thought I wasn't listening) in 6th grade. And of course, as the small-minded person I was back then, insisted that OF COURSE he wasn't gay, that was GROSS, he liked GIRLS. DUH!

(yeah, totally gay, straight from the womb, as far I can remember.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know I was until recently. I have a ton of very close gay ans some lesbian friends. Some are even married with kids.

I consider myself socially liberal.

Then, I picked up a book in my son's preschool and was freaked out that it was about two princes that fall in love. He's only 3. I'm not ready for him to be taught this stuff in school. I csnt explain it, but hes 3 and i prefer the traditional prince/princess scenario at this age. It's fine he knows that so and so has 2 daddies or mommies- but for some reason the book weirded me out.

In his preschool?? I would have flipped my shit.

This is where I agree with the OP, that is an agressive agenda for sure.

But how will either of you handle it when your young children see affection between 2 people of the same sex in public and ask about it? Ignore, punt, flip your shit? FWIW, it would make me uncomfortable too but I see it as an opportunity to normalize it for my kids to avoid it being a big deal later.

O

I dont think it's normal. My Kindergartner is confused by all of this shit. I say while there are some mommy-mommy or daddy-daddy it is not normal- Most people marry the opposite sex. I don't condemn it or say its wrong. I do note it as an anomaly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know I was until recently. I have a ton of very close gay ans some lesbian friends. Some are even married with kids.

I consider myself socially liberal.

Then, I picked up a book in my son's preschool and was freaked out that it was about two princes that fall in love. He's only 3. I'm not ready for him to be taught this stuff in school. I csnt explain it, but hes 3 and i prefer the traditional prince/princess scenario at this age. It's fine he knows that so and so has 2 daddies or mommies- but for some reason the book weirded me out.

In his preschool?? I would have flipped my shit.

This is where I agree with the OP, that is an agressive agenda for sure.

Is it wrong that I'm thinking of smuggling the book out of the school?

I really don't want to get in a political debate or be called a homophobe.

Personally, I could not have my child in a school that was already trying to shape their minds about sexuality at 3yrs old. My son already has 2 "married" aunts who babysit him frequently-that's enough for us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know I was until recently. I have a ton of very close gay ans some lesbian friends. Some are even married with kids.

I consider myself socially liberal.

Then, I picked up a book in my son's preschool and was freaked out that it was about two princes that fall in love. He's only 3. I'm not ready for him to be taught this stuff in school. I csnt explain it, but hes 3 and i prefer the traditional prince/princess scenario at this age. It's fine he knows that so and so has 2 daddies or mommies- but for some reason the book weirded me out.

In his preschool?? I would have flipped my shit.

This is where I agree with the OP, that is an agressive agenda for sure.

But how will either of you handle it when your young children see affection between 2 people of the same sex in public and ask about it? Ignore, punt, flip your shit? FWIW, it would make me uncomfortable too but I see it as an opportunity to normalize it for my kids to avoid it being a big deal later.

O

I dont think it's normal. My Kindergartner is confused by all of this shit. I say while there are some mommy-mommy or daddy-daddy it is not normal- Most people marry the opposite sex. I don't condemn it or say its wrong. I do note it as an anomaly.

Not normal certainly implies abnormal, deviant, unnatural,etc. Uncommon wouldn't cast as much of a conscious or subconscious moral judgment. Just a thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know I was until recently. I have a ton of very close gay ans some lesbian friends. Some are even married with kids.

I consider myself socially liberal.

Then, I picked up a book in my son's preschool and was freaked out that it was about two princes that fall in love. He's only 3. I'm not ready for him to be taught this stuff in school. I csnt explain it, but hes 3 and i prefer the traditional prince/princess scenario at this age. It's fine he knows that so and so has 2 daddies or mommies- but for some reason the book weirded me out.

In his preschool?? I would have flipped my shit.

This is where I agree with the OP, that is an agressive agenda for sure.

Is it wrong that I'm thinking of smuggling the book out of the school?

I really don't want to get in a political debate or be called a homophobe.

Personally, I could not have my child in a school that was already trying to shape their minds about sexuality at 3yrs old. My son already has 2 "married" aunts who babysit him frequently-that's enough for us.

Funny, you should make sure they get rid of every Disney happily ever after with the prince story then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know I was until recently. I have a ton of very close gay ans some lesbian friends. Some are even married with kids.

I consider myself socially liberal.

Then, I picked up a book in my son's preschool and was freaked out that it was about two princes that fall in love. He's only 3. I'm not ready for him to be taught this stuff in school. I csnt explain it, but hes 3 and i prefer the traditional prince/princess scenario at this age. It's fine he knows that so and so has 2 daddies or mommies- but for some reason the book weirded me out.

In his preschool?? I would have flipped my shit.

This is where I agree with the OP, that is an agressive agenda for sure.

But how will either of you handle it when your young children see affection between 2 people of the same sex in public and ask about it? Ignore, punt, flip your shit? FWIW, it would make me uncomfortable too but I see it as an opportunity to normalize it for my kids to avoid it being a big deal later.

My DHs sister is already married to a woman and the other sister is a sexual flip-flopper, we never know if Bob or Barbara will show up at Christmas. We treat it normal, like any other couple. There is not reason to make a big pow-wow over it. Being the typical lesbian the wife looks like a man, so the only thing we have had to explain over and over is that Liz is a woman Not a man, so stop calling her Mr Liz!!

I tow the line with schools pushing an agenda on 3yr olds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know I was until recently. I have a ton of very close gay ans some lesbian friends. Some are even married with kids.

I consider myself socially liberal.

Then, I picked up a book in my son's preschool and was freaked out that it was about two princes that fall in love. He's only 3. I'm not ready for him to be taught this stuff in school. I csnt explain it, but hes 3 and i prefer the traditional prince/princess scenario at this age. It's fine he knows that so and so has 2 daddies or mommies- but for some reason the book weirded me out.

In his preschool?? I would have flipped my shit.

This is where I agree with the OP, that is an agressive agenda for sure.

Is it wrong that I'm thinking of smuggling the book out of the school?

I really don't want to get in a political debate or be called a homophobe.

Personally, I could not have my child in a school that was already trying to shape their minds about sexuality at 3yrs old. My son already has 2 "married" aunts who babysit him frequently-that's enough for us.

Funny, you should make sure they get rid of every Disney happily ever after with the prince story then.

I equally loathe Disney prince charming stories as well, don't get me started on how detrimental that is to emotional growth and life's expectations.. Thank God I have boys. They have absolutely no interest in that sort of thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it confusing when people don't come out all the way. For instance a family member lives with her gf, brings her to holidays and everyone knows about her, yet she has never said this is my gf. It's like a secret that everyone knows. It's difficult for me to know how to react to that- do I extend an invite to gf (who is often refered to as a roommate or close friend) for family events? How do I explain her role in the family to my LO's if it has never been expressed to me and no one wants to say it?

They are trying to be discreet. By not talking about it they are giving people the option to pretend they don't notice anything. They aren;t "flaunting" their relationship around you, especially those of you who have Little Ones and who might not appreciate having to have that kind of discussion with them, yet.

I would just invite this family member's "roommate" to any of your events, and treat her as your family member's very close friend and as one of the family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

How do you explain those kids that already have the gay lisp and are designing clothes and sashaying around at 10 years old? This shit definitely didn't happen when I was a kid--nor did boys trying to kiss boys on the elementary school playground.

I don't recall the latter, but there were sure effeminate boys in my classes growing up. I remember one in kindergarten. This was 1981. I guess his parents must have let him watch coverage of the Stonewall Riots and he "learned" to be gay that way.

And btw, for every "effeminate" gay male, there's at least one "butch" one. Matt Bomer, anyone? Paul Babeu? And those are just newly out in the last couple weeks.

[Anonymous]

I think you need to develop your value system a bit more rather than giving in to the instinctive prejudice and fear you have towards gay people. Why is it you think they are mentally ill? Even if they are mentally ill, and this illness causes them to love people of the same gender, why shouldn't they have the same rights to their families? Is it right to take rights away just because you feel some instinctive disgust towards someone? For example, should the very old or disabled or really ugly people be deprived of rights because they are disgusting?

[Anonymous]

Speaking of preschool books, does anyone listen to toddler tunes on comcast? I always hear this song and was so surprised to hear such a politically incorrect song, I had to find the lyrics. I am for everone living their own life as long as it doesnt hurt me, so hearing this makes me feel sorry for the kids who already know they are gay (though probably not toddlers) or the ones with gay parents. I am surprised no one's complained to get this song off. Though it is a catcy little tune.

"There's two kinds of seagulls: he-gulls and she-gulls. He-gulls like she-gulls and that's why there's seagulls.

There's two kinds of pythons: girl-thons and guy-thons. Girl-thons like guy-thons and that's why there's pythons.

There's two kinds of wombats: Dad-bats and Mom-bats. Dad-bats dig Mom-bats and that's why there's wombats.

And there's two kinds of squirrels: himmels and herrels. Himmels are nuts about herrels and that's why there's squirrels. Most creatures come in pairs. That's the way they mingle. One kind only would be lonely. It takes two to tingle.

There's two kinds of penguins: lady-guins and men-guins. Lady-guins flip for men-guins and that's why there's penguins.

There's two kinds of blackbirds: jill-birds and jack-birds. Jill-birds thrill jack-birds and that's why there's blackbirds.

There's two kinds of lizards: herzards and hizards. Herzards think hizards are wizards and that's why there's lizards.

There's two kinds of llamas: papas and mamas. They wear different pajamas and that's why there's llamas. Most creatures come in pairs. That's the way they mingle. One kind only would be lonely. It takes two to tingle.

There's two kinds of peoples: he-puls and she-puls. He-puls like she-puls. She-puls like he-puls. And that's why there's me-puls, and you-puls, and peoples."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know I was until recently. I have a ton of very close gay ans some lesbian friends. Some are even married with kids.

I consider myself socially liberal.

Then, I picked up a book in my son's preschool and was freaked out that it was about two princes that fall in love. He's only 3. I'm not ready for him to be taught this stuff in school. I csnt explain it, but hes 3 and i prefer the traditional prince/princess scenario at this age. It's fine he knows that so and so has 2 daddies or mommies- but for some reason the book weirded me out.

In his preschool?? I would have flipped my shit.

This is where I agree with the OP, that is an agressive agenda for sure.

But how will either of you handle it when your young children see affection between 2 people of the same sex in public and ask about it? Ignore, punt, flip your shit? FWIW, it would make me uncomfortable too but I see it as an opportunity to normalize it for my kids to avoid it being a big deal later.

O

I dont think it's normal. My Kindergartner is confused by all of this shit. I say while there are some mommy-mommy or daddy-daddy it is not normal- Most people marry the opposite sex. I don't condemn it or say its wrong. I do note it as an anomaly.

You know, kids in my daughter's kindergarten are confused by the fact that she's in a wheelchair. I'm sure it brings up many uncomfortable questions for their parents to answer at home. It was probably much easier when kids like her were shipped off to institutions. Probably much easier when gays stayed in the closet too. But the fact that it's confusing for your kid isn't a justification for gays to just stay in that closet.

[Anonymous]

OP, I think you probaably have some gay tendencies, and that scares you. It's ok. There is nothing wrong with it.
Not sure if you are male or female, but if a male said that they preferred male/male porn would you think gay or straight? If you are male who prefers female/female well then you are just like most guys.