Suspected lottery scammer

[Anonymous]

lottery number 8173...check

[Anonymous]

all dcps needs to do is call the people with multiple sibling pref and ask for the child's name. if it doesnt check out, theyre out of the lottery. as for the people lying- they're assholes. and, for those of you saying who cares, or making fun of those having a problem with it- youre assholes too.

[Anonymous]

I'd call City Paper or somewhere like that and try to get them interested. I doubt a call from an average citizen is going to make much happen at DCPS. And even if they do bust the cheater someone should figure out how it happened in the first place so it doesn't happen again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I realize this is a slightly different scheme, but, if the above were true, why do I personally know so many children who attend DCPSs where *Grandma* lives? Not where the kid lives and sleeps, but where Grandma has a house.

well, when i enrolled my kid in a DCPS last year, i had to PROVE my residency with a drivers' license and/or a paystub. they take this stuff seriously.

if a kid is using grandma's address, grandma has to be the legal guardian. that's a big lie to keep going. even if grandma is lying, who cares? grandma is paying the same property taxes (income and sales) that you are paying to live in DC.

I care. Grandma pays taxes and presumably her kids already took advantage of that and went to DC public schools when they were children. It doesn't give her a right to have her grandchildren who don't live with her educated. It's cheating and it's taking away resources from my child. My parents live in a great school district and it wouldn't occur to me in a million years to lie and enroll my DC in school there.

Not a valid comparison. Horace Mann and HD Cooke are still in the same school district. The property taxes paid in Adams Morgan support the entire District of Columbia. This isn't the equivalent of someone from Ward 9 scamming their way into Watkins. One city, people.

[Anonymous]

BUT - some of us are having to send our kids to different schools because Marylanders are lying and creative parents are making up siblings. I know I am lucky and privileged and all that in general, but I work fulltime and so does my husband. Time with our children is less than we'd like, and I'd rather not spend my free time rushing between schools during rush-hour.

[Anonymous]

Okay, ALL THREE of the first three lottery numbers on Janney's list have multiple schools listed with OOB w/ sibling. Including one who has five OOBs w/ sibling. Wow, those are some odds.

[Anonymous]

PP - Referring to Janney's list for K.

[Anonymous]

Not a valid comparison. Horace Mann and HD Cooke are still in the same school district. The property taxes paid in Adams Morgan support the entire District of Columbia. This isn't the equivalent of someone from Ward 9 scamming their way into Watkins. One city, people.

Not quite. Like it or not, DC still has a local school system - kids in the DCPS system go to their local schools uness they get an OOB slot through the lottery. Those slots are only available if there is sufficient room at the school. The (not so) hypothetical woman you're talking about is subverting the system - she's lying to get school slots that should be up for grabs to the general population. Is it as bad as someone from MD sending their kid to a DCPS? No. Is it lying, cheating, unethical, annd fraudulent? Yup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here: just to clarify, there's this thing called "the DCPS lottery". In fact, it's the subject of this very thread. Now, this "lottery" is a impartial mechanism for choosing who gets a spot OOB or pre-s / pre-k. Understand now?I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here that you don't understand what this lottery thing is, or what purpose it serves. I certainly wouldn't be uncharitable enough to assume you're too morally obtuse to understand why cheating is wrong here as well.

(Sounds like someone needs a timeout.)

For the umpteenth time, DCPS is not required to educate any child before age 5 or any child outside their assigned boundary/NCLB-mandated alternative. Period.

Regardless of lottery outcomes, principals and the chancellor have the ultimate say on who goes where. Understand now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Not a valid comparison. Horace Mann and HD Cooke are still in the same school district. The property taxes paid in Adams Morgan support the entire District of Columbia. This isn't the equivalent of someone from Ward 9 scamming their way into Watkins. One city, people.

Not quite. Like it or not, DC still has a local school system - kids in the DCPS system go to their local schools uness they get an OOB slot through the lottery. Those slots are only available if there is sufficient room at the school. The (not so) hypothetical woman you're talking about is subverting the system - she's lying to get school slots that should be up for grabs to the general population. Is it as bad as someone from MD sending their kid to a DCPS? No. Is it lying, cheating, unethical, annd fraudulent? Yup.

Howl at the moon all you want, lots of us just are not going to care.

Bottom line: she pays DC taxes, she gets DC schools. I know, I know - you have more money than she does, and therefore you want to keep her out of YOUR school (because privately you're sure you're better than she is and she's stealing your privileges, but publicly you have to frame it all about a MORAL CHEATING ISSUE). Still, most of us see through this elitist bitchery on your part, and do not consider it a legitimate complaint worthy of taxpayer time and attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not a valid comparison. Horace Mann and HD Cooke are still in the same school district. The property taxes paid in Adams Morgan support the entire District of Columbia. This isn't the equivalent of someone from Ward 9 scamming their way into Watkins. One city, people.

Not quite. Like it or not, DC still has a local school system - kids in the DCPS system go to their local schools uness they get an OOB slot through the lottery. Those slots are only available if there is sufficient room at the school. The (not so) hypothetical woman you're talking about is subverting the system - she's lying to get school slots that should be up for grabs to the general population. Is it as bad as someone from MD sending their kid to a DCPS? No. Is it lying, cheating, unethical, annd fraudulent? Yup.

Howl at the moon all you want, lots of us just are not going to care.

Bottom line: she pays DC taxes, she gets DC schools. I know, I know - you have more money than she does, and therefore you want to keep her out of YOUR school (because privately you're sure you're better than she is and she's stealing your privileges, but publicly you have to frame it all about a MORAL CHEATING ISSUE). Still, most of us see through this elitist bitchery on your part, and do not consider it a legitimate complaint worthy of taxpayer time and attention.

NP here. My local school is bad. That is irrelevant. This is a moral issue. She is cheating and lying. It is wrong and a terrible lesson for the poor children involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not a valid comparison. Horace Mann and HD Cooke are still in the same school district. The property taxes paid in Adams Morgan support the entire District of Columbia. This isn't the equivalent of someone from Ward 9 scamming their way into Watkins. One city, people.

Not quite. Like it or not, DC still has a local school system - kids in the DCPS system go to their local schools uness they get an OOB slot through the lottery. Those slots are only available if there is sufficient room at the school. The (not so) hypothetical woman you're talking about is subverting the system - she's lying to get school slots that should be up for grabs to the general population. Is it as bad as someone from MD sending their kid to a DCPS? No. Is it lying, cheating, unethical, annd fraudulent? Yup.

Howl at the moon all you want, lots of us just are not going to care.

Bottom line: she pays DC taxes, she gets DC schools. I know, I know - you have more money than she does, and therefore you want to keep her out of YOUR school (because privately you're sure you're better than she is and she's stealing your privileges, but publicly you have to frame it all about a MORAL CHEATING ISSUE). Still, most of us see through this elitist bitchery on your part, and do not consider it a legitimate complaint worthy of taxpayer time and attention.

She pays DC taxes, she gets DC schools. Yes the one she gets in without cheating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What would have been really nice is if your DW had just offered to buy the woman's coffee.

I think she was minding her own business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Okay, ALL THREE of the first three lottery numbers on Janney's list have multiple schools listed with OOB w/ sibling. Including one who has five OOBs w/ sibling. Wow, those are some odds.

Indeed. Those odds seem incredible. Remotely possible - maybe. But pretty unlikely. I'd be willing to bet that one or more is cheating. So it it certainly appears that people are playing the system, and the honest applicants stand to lose - especially if there is a timing issue for them. DCPS should centralize this and require more at the outset from applicants claiming sibling preferences. All sibling preferences go to the top of the heap for their chosen schools. Leaving this loophole open - which may be addressed later in the process, but too late to help some of the honest applicants - is not acceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Okay, ALL THREE of the first three lottery numbers on Janney's list have multiple schools listed with OOB w/ sibling. Including one who has five OOBs w/ sibling. Wow, those are some odds.

Wow, 6521 must be able to teleport to have kids in Brent, Eaton and Key. Super good waitlist numbers too. Not fair.