W Cluster and BluePrint for Maryland

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Anonymous wrote:Have any of you "oh the W schools get everything" people looked at a map? How in the world would they make any substantive boundary changes to Whitman and Churchill?

they are protected by Virginia. but i'm sure they'll find a way to bus kids in and out.

They just finished a boundary study where that theoretically could have happened, but did not.

yes, but whats to say the State wont overrule to support the Blueprint

... uh, what? The State defers to local boards for boundary studies. In fact, one of the reasons why the Save Wootton filing / lawsuit is going to fail is because the State BoE's standard is:
For decisions of the local board involving a local policy, the local board’s decision is considered prima facie correct, and the State Board may not substitute its judgment for that of the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, unreasonable, or illegal. COMAR 13A.01.05.06A.

you obviously dont know our governor, who entire goal is national recognition. touting his blueprint for maryland and how he forced a white wealthy enclave with high school rankings, to take in the poor and immigrants, would be national gold for him.

he can pound his chest about overriding local boundaries in the name of equity. the liberals would eat this up and go absolutely crazy.

and most people in this forum, hate the W cluster anyway and would applaud it too.

these arent normal times with Moore at the helm

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Have any of you "oh the W schools get everything" people looked at a map? How in the world would they make any substantive boundary changes to Whitman and Churchill?

they are protected by Virginia. but i'm sure they'll find a way to bus kids in and out.

They just finished a boundary study where that theoretically could have happened, but did not.

yes, but whats to say the State wont overrule to support the Blueprint

... uh, what? The State defers to local boards for boundary studies. In fact, one of the reasons why the Save Wootton filing / lawsuit is going to fail is because the State BoE's standard is:
For decisions of the local board involving a local policy, the local board’s decision is considered prima facie correct, and the State Board may not substitute its judgment for that of the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, unreasonable, or illegal. COMAR 13A.01.05.06A.

you obviously dont know our governor, who entire goal is national recognition. touting his blueprint for maryland and how he forced a white wealthy enclave with high school rankings, to take in the poor and immigrants, would be national gold for him.

he can pound his chest about overriding local boundaries in the name of equity. the liberals would eat this up and go absolutely crazy.

and most people in this forum, hate the W cluster anyway and would applaud it too.

these arent normal times with Moore at the helm

No one hates W schools. You are just piss we don’t care and place that as our priority. You need to justify your choices, which is silly. Lots of reasons not to go to one of those schools even if you can afford it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is changing. They continue to get the best courses and resources and the other schools get the minimum.

What resources do the Ws get that other schools don't? I think the biggest difference in the schools is the parent community/cohort. And, lower income schools receive additional resources from the federal government

No, they don’t get additional resources for high school. The course offerings, clubs, sports.

I can tell you for NBMS that feeds into WJ - most of the extracurriculars are organized by parent volunteers. We just finished our ScienceOlympiad run and you cannot even imagine how many hours were spent by parents. School contributed maybe 1%. The rest is on us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have any of you "oh the W schools get everything" people looked at a map? How in the world would they make any substantive boundary changes to Whitman and Churchill?

they are protected by Virginia. but i'm sure they'll find a way to bus kids in and out.

They just finished a boundary study where that theoretically could have happened, but did not.

yes, but whats to say the State wont overrule to support the Blueprint

... uh, what? The State defers to local boards for boundary studies. In fact, one of the reasons why the Save Wootton filing / lawsuit is going to fail is because the State BoE's standard is:
For decisions of the local board involving a local policy, the local board’s decision is considered prima facie correct, and the State Board may not substitute its judgment for that of the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, unreasonable, or illegal. COMAR 13A.01.05.06A.

you obviously dont know our governor, who entire goal is national recognition. touting his blueprint for maryland and how he forced a white wealthy enclave with high school rankings, to take in the poor and immigrants, would be national gold for him.

he can pound his chest about overriding local boundaries in the name of equity. the liberals would eat this up and go absolutely crazy.

and most people in this forum, hate the W cluster anyway and would applaud it too.

these arent normal times with Moore at the helm

No one hates W schools. You are just piss we don’t care and place that as our priority. You need to justify your choices, which is silly. Lots of reasons not to go to one of those schools even if you can afford it.

these are different arguments than "the state wont step in local school boundary decisions". moore definitely will step in.

and like I said, you and almost everyone on this site, will come cheering....you took down the evil W cluster, now all schools can be ranked 5 or lower!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have any of you "oh the W schools get everything" people looked at a map? How in the world would they make any substantive boundary changes to Whitman and Churchill?

they are protected by Virginia. but i'm sure they'll find a way to bus kids in and out.

They just finished a boundary study where that theoretically could have happened, but did not.

yes, but whats to say the State wont overrule to support the Blueprint

... uh, what? The State defers to local boards for boundary studies. In fact, one of the reasons why the Save Wootton filing / lawsuit is going to fail is because the State BoE's standard is:
For decisions of the local board involving a local policy, the local board’s decision is considered prima facie correct, and the State Board may not substitute its judgment for that of the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, unreasonable, or illegal. COMAR 13A.01.05.06A.

you obviously dont know our governor, who entire goal is national recognition. touting his blueprint for maryland and how he forced a white wealthy enclave with high school rankings, to take in the poor and immigrants, would be national gold for him.

he can pound his chest about overriding local boundaries in the name of equity. the liberals would eat this up and go absolutely crazy.

and most people in this forum, hate the W cluster anyway and would applaud it too.

these arent normal times with Moore at the helm

So if black and brown children are bussed to Whitman, does that mean that white and rich children of progressives are bussed out of Potomac???? Horror!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have any of you "oh the W schools get everything" people looked at a map? How in the world would they make any substantive boundary changes to Whitman and Churchill?

they are protected by Virginia. but i'm sure they'll find a way to bus kids in and out.

They just finished a boundary study where that theoretically could have happened, but did not.

yes, but whats to say the State wont overrule to support the Blueprint

... uh, what? The State defers to local boards for boundary studies. In fact, one of the reasons why the Save Wootton filing / lawsuit is going to fail is because the State BoE's standard is:
For decisions of the local board involving a local policy, the local board’s decision is considered prima facie correct, and the State Board may not substitute its judgment for that of the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, unreasonable, or illegal. COMAR 13A.01.05.06A.

you obviously dont know our governor, who entire goal is national recognition. touting his blueprint for maryland and how he forced a white wealthy enclave with high school rankings, to take in the poor and immigrants, would be national gold for him.

he can pound his chest about overriding local boundaries in the name of equity. the liberals would eat this up and go absolutely crazy.

and most people in this forum, hate the W cluster anyway and would applaud it too.

these arent normal times with Moore at the helm

So if black and brown children are bussed to Whitman, does that mean that white and rich children of progressives are bussed out of Potomac???? Horror!

"progressives". they typical dont live in the W clusters. the lower performing kids come in, the clusters parents go private and every school district in MOCO is ranked 6 or lower.

and b/c of that, MCPS needs ever more money and my property taxes go up another 30 %

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have any of you "oh the W schools get everything" people looked at a map? How in the world would they make any substantive boundary changes to Whitman and Churchill?

they are protected by Virginia. but i'm sure they'll find a way to bus kids in and out.

They just finished a boundary study where that theoretically could have happened, but did not.

yes, but whats to say the State wont overrule to support the Blueprint

... uh, what? The State defers to local boards for boundary studies. In fact, one of the reasons why the Save Wootton filing / lawsuit is going to fail is because the State BoE's standard is:
For decisions of the local board involving a local policy, the local board’s decision is considered prima facie correct, and the State Board may not substitute its judgment for that of the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, unreasonable, or illegal. COMAR 13A.01.05.06A.

you obviously dont know our governor, who entire goal is national recognition. touting his blueprint for maryland and how he forced a white wealthy enclave with high school rankings, to take in the poor and immigrants, would be national gold for him.

he can pound his chest about overriding local boundaries in the name of equity. the liberals would eat this up and go absolutely crazy.

and most people in this forum, hate the W cluster anyway and would applaud it too.

these arent normal times with Moore at the helm

So if black and brown children are bussed to Whitman, does that mean that white and rich children of progressives are bussed out of Potomac???? Horror!

"progressives". they typical dont live in the W clusters. the lower performing kids come in, the clusters parents go private and every school district in MOCO is ranked 6 or lower.

and b/c of that, MCPS needs ever more money and my property taxes go up another 30 %

Progressives live in W clusters. I see Kamala's signs everywhere. Those woke people are very good in theoretical reasoning but when it cones to real life, they do cluster in Bethesda/potomac and some even send the kids to private schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have any of you "oh the W schools get everything" people looked at a map? How in the world would they make any substantive boundary changes to Whitman and Churchill?

they are protected by Virginia. but i'm sure they'll find a way to bus kids in and out.

They just finished a boundary study where that theoretically could have happened, but did not.

yes, but whats to say the State wont overrule to support the Blueprint

... uh, what? The State defers to local boards for boundary studies. In fact, one of the reasons why the Save Wootton filing / lawsuit is going to fail is because the State BoE's standard is:
For decisions of the local board involving a local policy, the local board’s decision is considered prima facie correct, and the State Board may not substitute its judgment for that of the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, unreasonable, or illegal. COMAR 13A.01.05.06A.

you obviously dont know our governor, who entire goal is national recognition. touting his blueprint for maryland and how he forced a white wealthy enclave with high school rankings, to take in the poor and immigrants, would be national gold for him.

he can pound his chest about overriding local boundaries in the name of equity. the liberals would eat this up and go absolutely crazy.

and most people in this forum, hate the W cluster anyway and would applaud it too.

these arent normal times with Moore at the helm

So if black and brown children are bussed to Whitman, does that mean that white and rich children of progressives are bussed out of Potomac???? Horror!

"progressives". they typical dont live in the W clusters. the lower performing kids come in, the clusters parents go private and every school district in MOCO is ranked 6 or lower.

and b/c of that, MCPS needs ever more money and my property taxes go up another 30 %

Mcps needs more money as they don’t have accountability and good financial management. They need to stay within budget and cut the waste. Of course progressives live in those areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have any of you "oh the W schools get everything" people looked at a map? How in the world would they make any substantive boundary changes to Whitman and Churchill?

they are protected by Virginia. but i'm sure they'll find a way to bus kids in and out.

They just finished a boundary study where that theoretically could have happened, but did not.

yes, but whats to say the State wont overrule to support the Blueprint

... uh, what? The State defers to local boards for boundary studies. In fact, one of the reasons why the Save Wootton filing / lawsuit is going to fail is because the State BoE's standard is:
For decisions of the local board involving a local policy, the local board’s decision is considered prima facie correct, and the State Board may not substitute its judgment for that of the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, unreasonable, or illegal. COMAR 13A.01.05.06A.

you obviously dont know our governor, who entire goal is national recognition. touting his blueprint for maryland and how he forced a white wealthy enclave with high school rankings, to take in the poor and immigrants, would be national gold for him.

he can pound his chest about overriding local boundaries in the name of equity. the liberals would eat this up and go absolutely crazy.

and most people in this forum, hate the W cluster anyway and would applaud it too.

these arent normal times with Moore at the helm

So if black and brown children are bussed to Whitman, does that mean that white and rich children of progressives are bussed out of Potomac???? Horror!

No, because it’s an option and few do it. Self segregation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing is changing. They continue to get the best courses and resources and the other schools get the minimum.

What resources do the Ws get that other schools don't? I think the biggest difference in the schools is the parent community/cohort. And, lower income schools receive additional resources from the federal government

No, they don’t get additional resources for high school. The course offerings, clubs, sports.

I can tell you for NBMS that feeds into WJ - most of the extracurriculars are organized by parent volunteers. We just finished our ScienceOlympiad run and you cannot even imagine how many hours were spent by parents. School contributed maybe 1%. The rest is on us.

Again, it still takes resources and a willing principal. Our principal says no to most things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing is changing. They continue to get the best courses and resources and the other schools get the minimum.

What resources do the Ws get that other schools don't? I think the biggest difference in the schools is the parent community/cohort. And, lower income schools receive additional resources from the federal government

No, they don’t get additional resources for high school. The course offerings, clubs, sports.

I can tell you for NBMS that feeds into WJ - most of the extracurriculars are organized by parent volunteers. We just finished our ScienceOlympiad run and you cannot even imagine how many hours were spent by parents. School contributed maybe 1%. The rest is on us.

As a former NB ScienceOlympiad parent volunteer, I can confirm that the workload was crushing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing is changing. They continue to get the best courses and resources and the other schools get the minimum.

What resources do the Ws get that other schools don't? I think the biggest difference in the schools is the parent community/cohort. And, lower income schools receive additional resources from the federal government

Yeah, WJ has for years been the most overcrowded school. And they didn’t advertise it but when they were having all those problems with bathroom access it was because McPS only gave them about half their allotment of security guards. Admin had to go back mid year and make a big stink just to get th usual per student allotment and I’m not even sure they go that.

Poverty few high schools have bathroom access.

Oops, very

I understand it's an issue everywhere but it was particularly bad at WJ a year or two ago. There were days that they had one boys room open -- for a school that has 1500 boys. One day my kid spent 20 minutes walking from hall to hall and up and down stairs looking for an unlocked bathroom. That's when I went to complain and they told me that they were pushing to get additional security officers. They told me the numbers at that point but I don't remember them -- but they had something like half of their supposed allotment.
And they've had things like dead rats in the hallway as well.
I think some parents think it's all shangri-la at the W schools, but they have a lot of the same under-resource issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have any of you "oh the W schools get everything" people looked at a map? How in the world would they make any substantive boundary changes to Whitman and Churchill?

they are protected by Virginia. but i'm sure they'll find a way to bus kids in and out.

They just finished a boundary study where that theoretically could have happened, but did not.

yes, but whats to say the State wont overrule to support the Blueprint

... uh, what? The State defers to local boards for boundary studies. In fact, one of the reasons why the Save Wootton filing / lawsuit is going to fail is because the State BoE's standard is:
For decisions of the local board involving a local policy, the local board’s decision is considered prima facie correct, and the State Board may not substitute its judgment for that of the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, unreasonable, or illegal. COMAR 13A.01.05.06A.

you obviously dont know our governor, who entire goal is national recognition. touting his blueprint for maryland and how he forced a white wealthy enclave with high school rankings, to take in the poor and immigrants, would be national gold for him.

he can pound his chest about overriding local boundaries in the name of equity. the liberals would eat this up and go absolutely crazy.

and most people in this forum, hate the W cluster anyway and would applaud it too.

these arent normal times with Moore at the helm

So if black and brown children are bussed to Whitman, does that mean that white and rich children of progressives are bussed out of Potomac???? Horror!

"progressives". they typical dont live in the W clusters. the lower performing kids come in, the clusters parents go private and every school district in MOCO is ranked 6 or lower.

and b/c of that, MCPS needs ever more money and my property taxes go up another 30 %

Progressives live in W clusters. I see Kamala's signs everywhere. Those woke people are very good in theoretical reasoning but when it cones to real life, they do cluster in Bethesda/potomac and some even send the kids to private schools.

Id say democrats, not progressives. they are two different populations. democrats want rules, order and functioning schools and police

progressives fight culture wars, advocate for every new thing and then tell us they need more money even with math/reading scores are significantly down over the last 30 years. progressives got police removed from MCPS schools and now kids are being shot. progressives got the police defunded....dont confuse the two

not many progressives in the W cluster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing is changing. They continue to get the best courses and resources and the other schools get the minimum.

What resources do the Ws get that other schools don't? I think the biggest difference in the schools is the parent community/cohort. And, lower income schools receive additional resources from the federal government

No, they don’t get additional resources for high school. The course offerings, clubs, sports.

I can tell you for NBMS that feeds into WJ - most of the extracurriculars are organized by parent volunteers. We just finished our ScienceOlympiad run and you cannot even imagine how many hours were spent by parents. School contributed maybe 1%. The rest is on us.

Again, it still takes resources and a willing principal. Our principal says no to most things.

Parents are the RESOURCES. Principal has not spent a minute on this. We had to approach the science teacher to be our sponsor (she filled some paperwork + did some admin stuff.) The actual coaching was done outside of school, in libraries, at our houses. That is why I live in a W cluster. Community is very active.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have any of you "oh the W schools get everything" people looked at a map? How in the world would they make any substantive boundary changes to Whitman and Churchill?

they are protected by Virginia. but i'm sure they'll find a way to bus kids in and out.

They just finished a boundary study where that theoretically could have happened, but did not.

yes, but whats to say the State wont overrule to support the Blueprint

... uh, what? The State defers to local boards for boundary studies. In fact, one of the reasons why the Save Wootton filing / lawsuit is going to fail is because the State BoE's standard is:
For decisions of the local board involving a local policy, the local board’s decision is considered prima facie correct, and the State Board may not substitute its judgment for that of the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, unreasonable, or illegal. COMAR 13A.01.05.06A.

you obviously dont know our governor, who entire goal is national recognition. touting his blueprint for maryland and how he forced a white wealthy enclave with high school rankings, to take in the poor and immigrants, would be national gold for him.

he can pound his chest about overriding local boundaries in the name of equity. the liberals would eat this up and go absolutely crazy.

and most people in this forum, hate the W cluster anyway and would applaud it too.

these arent normal times with Moore at the helm

No one hates W schools. You are just piss we don’t care and place that as our priority. You need to justify your choices, which is silly. Lots of reasons not to go to one of those schools even if you can afford it.

these are different arguments than "the state wont step in local school boundary decisions". moore definitely will step in.

and like I said, you and almost everyone on this site, will come cheering....you took down the evil W cluster, now all schools can be ranked 5 or lower!!!

Who cares about the rankings but you? I just care that the schools we are at meet my kids needs and wants.