Went from a mild Osteopenia DEXA to Osteoporosis in two years

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Anonymous wrote:Try jumping exercises and heavy weights. Even if you go on medication, they may help.

But get your doctor's approval and clearance for any of this before you do it. My mother has very mild osteoporosis (just over the mark from osteopenia) and her doctor told her no jumping -- she is hypermobile and doesn't have great balance, and despite lifting weights is not very strong.

So: she needs to work on balance and build some full body strength and stability, and THEN can work toward small bounces, then hops, and maybe then small jumps while holding on to a bar for stability. Every body is unique.

It is really irresponsible to suggest to anyone that jumping up and down will alleviate osteoporosis (it's like saying aromatherapy cures cancer). Please stop with this nonsense.

You need closed chain kinectic exercises to build bone.

Why? Jumping is in the scientific literature and is not too much different from the lifting of weights in the LIFTMOR study.

Do more research, PP.

I was born with a medical condition that basically is osteoporosis, so I have had it all my life. There are many different variables to bone building and bone breakdown. I have over 50 years experience living like this and dealing with people like you. That's great that one study says you should jump up and down to build bones. So what? You are doing to tell someone, that has fragile bones, that they should jump up and down? I broke my foot recently walking down stairs. What do you think jumping up and down does?

I have done my research. I am also very well connected with NIH, Hospital for Special Surgery, and medical experts that deal directly with my condition, osteoporosis and researchers. I am the kind of person drug companies and medical labs want and am often recruited for studies (Ultragenyx was recruiting me for years for their phase 3 orbit but I decline).

You are wrong. I wish the answer was jump up and down or drink milk or take collagen powder or add a calcium supplement.

So what are you saying PP? Only medicine is the answer? I think most people understand that all the exercise and diet may not overcome genetics in certain circumstances, but it does help for many who do not want to go on medication or wish to delay medication. I’m sorry for your medical condition but you and your condition does not represent most.

I am not sure what your hang up is, but stop trolling. OP came onto this thread for advice from people who actually have osteoporosis. Do you have it? I do and offered my experience and you for some reason keep discounting it and plugging away about jumping. You are recommending to someone with actual osteoporosis to engage in an activity that increases their risk of fractures? Are you just naive, a jerk, a troll, RFK?

I have real experience and advice to offer which is what OP asked. Is it for all cases of osteoporosis, no, but it is for many. I do a combination of nutrition, weight training and medication BECAUSE there are several components that contribute to bone density (not just one). Did your study about jumping tell you that?

I will call out people who offer ridiculous suggestions. It’s hard enough being a woman, especially over 50, and especially with a medical condition like osteoporosis that needs medical care. Stop making it harder.

Wow. Btw, I am not the original poster about jumping, but if you read that post, it says possibly try plyo and strength even if put on medication. Where does it say to do those in place of medication? I’m sure everyone here ( including me, 55 post menopause with strong family history of osteoporosis ) with bone density issues is consulting with a doctor. Let go of your outrage.

I don't know why you're sure of this, because it is clear that the OP has been seeing a PCP who does not have enough knowledge to be helpful and for some reason is resistant to seeing the specialists who could help.

Lecturing someone who is offering what is probably the best-informed understanding of bone building and breakdown is also a weird look.

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Anonymous wrote:Try jumping exercises and heavy weights. Even if you go on medication, they may help.

But get your doctor's approval and clearance for any of this before you do it. My mother has very mild osteoporosis (just over the mark from osteopenia) and her doctor told her no jumping -- she is hypermobile and doesn't have great balance, and despite lifting weights is not very strong.

So: she needs to work on balance and build some full body strength and stability, and THEN can work toward small bounces, then hops, and maybe then small jumps while holding on to a bar for stability. Every body is unique.

It is really irresponsible to suggest to anyone that jumping up and down will alleviate osteoporosis (it's like saying aromatherapy cures cancer). Please stop with this nonsense.

You need closed chain kinectic exercises to build bone.

Why? Jumping is in the scientific literature and is not too much different from the lifting of weights in the LIFTMOR study.

Do more research, PP.

I was born with a medical condition that basically is osteoporosis, so I have had it all my life. There are many different variables to bone building and bone breakdown. I have over 50 years experience living like this and dealing with people like you. That's great that one study says you should jump up and down to build bones. So what? You are doing to tell someone, that has fragile bones, that they should jump up and down? I broke my foot recently walking down stairs. What do you think jumping up and down does?

I have done my research. I am also very well connected with NIH, Hospital for Special Surgery, and medical experts that deal directly with my condition, osteoporosis and researchers. I am the kind of person drug companies and medical labs want and am often recruited for studies (Ultragenyx was recruiting me for years for their phase 3 orbit but I decline).

You are wrong. I wish the answer was jump up and down or drink milk or take collagen powder or add a calcium supplement.

So what are you saying PP? Only medicine is the answer? I think most people understand that all the exercise and diet may not overcome genetics in certain circumstances, but it does help for many who do not want to go on medication or wish to delay medication. I’m sorry for your medical condition but you and your condition does not represent most.

I am not sure what your hang up is, but stop trolling. OP came onto this thread for advice from people who actually have osteoporosis. Do you have it? I do and offered my experience and you for some reason keep discounting it and plugging away about jumping. You are recommending to someone with actual osteoporosis to engage in an activity that increases their risk of fractures? Are you just naive, a jerk, a troll, RFK?

I have real experience and advice to offer which is what OP asked. Is it for all cases of osteoporosis, no, but it is for many. I do a combination of nutrition, weight training and medication BECAUSE there are several components that contribute to bone density (not just one). Did your study about jumping tell you that?

I will call out people who offer ridiculous suggestions. It’s hard enough being a woman, especially over 50, and especially with a medical condition like osteoporosis that needs medical care. Stop making it harder.

Wow. Btw, I am not the original poster about jumping, but if you read that post, it says possibly try plyo and strength even if put on medication. Where does it say to do those in place of medication? I’m sure everyone here ( including me, 55 post menopause with strong family history of osteoporosis ) with bone density issues is consulting with a doctor. Let go of your outrage.

Wow, what? I actually have posted local doctor recommendations and medication experience. Wow, as in thanks so much? And you don't have osteoporosis by your own admission, and hopefully it stays that way. Then I guess you can start jumping.

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In your case, yes. When I saw the thread title, I was going to suggest the D/K2 as my mom, in her late 70s, has osteoporosis and has been on Fosmax and another and this was the only thing to actually reverse it.

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I'm pp and normally I'd say no, but you're already doing all the right stuff. I'm really sorry -- I know that's frustrating!

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Sorry -- one last thing, my mom and I are both very sensitive to meds and she hasn't had any issues with these meds, fyi. They're the only ones she's on in late 70s.

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Anonymous wrote:In your case, yes. When I saw the thread title, I was going to suggest the D/K2 as my mom, in her late 70s, has osteoporosis and has been on Fosmax and another and this was the only thing to actually reverse it.

NP. what is the dosage of the D/K2? I'm 52 with osteopenia; my mom has and grandmother had osteoporosis. Trying to prevent what I can.

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Anonymous wrote:In your case, yes. When I saw the thread title, I was going to suggest the D/K2 as my mom, in her late 70s, has osteoporosis and has been on Fosmax and another and this was the only thing to actually reverse it.

NP. what is the dosage of the D/K2? I'm 52 with osteopenia; my mom has and grandmother had osteoporosis. Trying to prevent what I can.

I didn’t ask her, but mine is 125mcg D and 180mcg of K2. I’m a year older than you with osteopenia, but I haven’t retested. My doctor suggested to also try Algae Cal, as some of her patients are on it, but I haven’t tried it.

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Anonymous wrote:In your case, yes. When I saw the thread title, I was going to suggest the D/K2 as my mom, in her late 70s, has osteoporosis and has been on Fosmax and another and this was the only thing to actually reverse it.

NP. what is the dosage of the D/K2? I'm 52 with osteopenia; my mom has and grandmother had osteoporosis. Trying to prevent what I can.

I didn’t ask her, but mine is 125mcg D and 180mcg of K2. I’m a year older than you with osteopenia, but I haven’t retested. My doctor suggested to also try Algae Cal, as some of her patients are on it, but I haven’t tried it.

Thank you!

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Yes, meds without hesitation

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry -- one last thing, my mom and I are both very sensitive to meds and she hasn't had any issues with these meds, fyi. They're the only ones she's on in late 70s.

That's why I don't understand why someone would hesitate to go on the meds. Basically all downsides to turning down medication.

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As a word of warning for everyone still able to ward this off: LIFT HEAVY WEIGHTS. Walking is not weight bearing exercise, light weights are not weight bearing exercise, yoga/barre are not weight bearing exercise. Lift heavy weights. Stomp when you walk up stairs and do practiced jumps/falls off stairs to land heavy on your feet. EAT. All of these things help prevent osteoporosis.

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I shared the link about the k2 with my doc, who said, "no, this is old and not proven." Taking the meds, lifting and eating clean as much as possible and still enjoying life

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Anonymous wrote:I shared the link about the k2 with my doc, who said, "no, this is old and not proven." Taking the meds, lifting and eating clean as much as possible and still enjoying life

Please ignore this poster and spend $5/mo if you are a woman. Hip fractures kill 1 out of 3 people age 50+ within the year. The combo may also help with cardiovascular health, which is the #1 killer of woman.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0378512201002754

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32060566/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5613455/

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/endocrinology/articles/10.3389/fendo.2025.1703116/full

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Anonymous wrote:Try jumping exercises and heavy weights. Even if you go on medication, they may help.

I would not jump unless doctor okays it. If your bones are too weak, jumping could be bad.

But, for good enough bones, jumping works well. Just ask doctor first.

Right - I would trade half the walking for additional weight bearing exercise. Add lifting weights (try to find a personal trainer who understands osteoporosis), and for cardio try an erg machine which adds a resistance component.

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Anonymous wrote:There are parathyroid conditions that can cause the body to strip out calcium. You should see an endocrinologist.

This ^^^. Hyperparathyroidism can cause the parathyroid gland to go haywire in its control of serum calcium. You must have your serum calcium, PTH and Vitamin D tested together in the same blood draw (one without the others is meaningless). There must be an appropriate relationship between the 3: vitamin D should be above 30, Calcium below 10 (if you are over 30) and PTH must be normal *and* in inverse relationship to calcium (so if calcium is 10, PTH must be in the lower half of the "normal" range).

Hyperparathyroidism is often a missed diagnosis, which is unfortunate because surgery by a high volume surgeon is quick, has very good outcomes, is the only cure.

Hyperparathyroidism resulting in a calcium of 10 or higher indicates that the body is pulling calcium from the bones to maintain that higher serum calcium. Over time that can cause osteoporosis and/or kidney stones.

The symptoms or hyperparathyroidism are diffuse and non-specific. For me it was: exhaustion, poor sleep brain fog, motivation, obesity, frequent urination, muscle weakening, back pain and muscle spasms, heart palpitations, low vitamin D, and increased blood pressure. All of these symptoms went away within days after surgery.

There was an article in the Washington Post by a woman (not me) who went through several years trying before she received a hyperparathyroid diagnosis.

BTW, your PCP is terrible if he/she doesn't know that endocrinologists monitor osteoporosis and other bone metabolism issues. Please get a new PCP.