| Big law adjacent - 30 mins |
No one cold calls anymore. It’s just not done |
What sort of law? Do your clients mind that you double and triple bill? |
| I’m fairly prompt with at least an acknowledgement email, but if I’m in meetings all day, things can get lost in the shuffle. But typically by EOD or by next AM. |
hm. this person sounds sounds really organized. I wouldn't have jumped to worry about that. |
If they bill the same 6 minutes to the client on the call and the client they're emailing, that's double billing. However, most would split the time (e.g., client on the call doesn't get a bill for the full time of the call) which is fine. I'm more skeptical that they're giving good value if they talk and read substantive emails at the same time - people who do that usually use a lot of filler and aren't focused communicators - but if the clients are happy then it doesn't really matter. |
| I get in excess of 175 emails a day. Expecting a response within an hour is laughable. |
Most people who bill in 0.1 increments aren't keeping track exactly. They're just coming up with an estimate at the end of every day. |
I don't know "most people" but my firm had daily sheets where you noted what time you moved to another matter. |
And if you overcharge, you’ll get caught. My dad is a lawyer who ran a legal fee auditing consulting firm for years. Made a ton of off of saving big corporations money on their legal fees. |
That's super disrespectful towards the client you're on the call with, and really self-involved. I suspect those clients know you're not their priority. |
I have never heard of this in biglaw. Plus, how is there any way to know if those "daily sheets" are accurate? Let's be real here -- for most tasks, it's impossible to know exactly how long it should take. For example, if a partner is preparing for an important deposition, it's a total black box as to what a reasonable amount of time is. But sure, fill out those "daily sheets" to make it all seem more defensible. |
| You absolutely have to double or triple bill. How else are you going to meet that 2700 hour minimum? |
| I get that the biglaw people need to act like billing is an exact science because they don't want people to know that the foundation for their multimillion dollar compensation is a house of cards. When I was in biglaw, the creative billing that people do was discussed pretty openly. Billing for two tasks simultaneously, billing for thinking about a case while getting dressed in the morning, etc. I understood well that there was a reason others were billing more than me but seemed to be working less, and it wasn't because they made better use of their time than me. |
Who is the someone? A random person, unrelated to my organization? A co-worker? A customer? Is this a normal and expected request or an unusual one? How much effort and time does it require on my part? All of this matters. In most cases, there would be a response on the same day or, at worst, the next morning, except if I am sick or on vacation. I would expect the same from others. I don't have a secretary and answer my own email messages. |