Option B Alternate - Adding extra ES to WJ?

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Anonymous wrote:Wheaton Woods family here. I’m ashamed of you people who don’t want my kids going to school at Woodward. Sorry we don’t make as much money, but Wheaton was over crowded. Grateful for Superintendent leadership here

Viers Mill family here and I agree. You are all shameful racists acting like you are trying to do us a favor by sending us to WJ.

+1 I’ma VM family too and disgusted my kids will need go to school with these snobs at Farmland. I don’t want you either. Trying to use my family as a pawn for your property value.

I would rather go to Woodward than WJ. And I’m supposed to go to WJ.

[Anonymous]

We’re a VM family was clear in the original options that our neighborhood was a bargaining chip for MCPS, especially in the options that split the school in half along beach drive. We are happy that Taylor’s rev keeps VM together.

We support any elementary school that wants to avoid split articulation for HS. We don’t support well-off parents deciding and proposing which less well-off families get booted out of their school.

The irony of this whole argument is that I grew up a FARMS kid and now I’m teaching your children, but now my kids aren’t good enough to be in a school with yours?

This feels a lot like the podcast Nice White Parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We’re a VM family was clear in the original options that our neighborhood was a bargaining chip for MCPS, especially in the options that split the school in half along beach drive. We are happy that Taylor’s rev keeps VM together.

We support any elementary school that wants to avoid split articulation for HS. We don’t support well-off parents deciding and proposing which less well-off families get booted out of their school.

The irony of this whole argument is that I grew up a FARMS kid and now I’m teaching your children, but now my kids aren’t good enough to be in a school with yours?

This feels a lot like the podcast Nice White Parents.

+1

Thank you for work with as a teacher. Agree 100%.

Keep Taylor’s recommendation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We’re a VM family was clear in the original options that our neighborhood was a bargaining chip for MCPS, especially in the options that split the school in half along beach drive. We are happy that Taylor’s rev keeps VM together.

We support any elementary school that wants to avoid split articulation for HS. We don’t support well-off parents deciding and proposing which less well-off families get booted out of their school.

The irony of this whole argument is that I grew up a FARMS kid and now I’m teaching your children, but now my kids aren’t good enough to be in a school with yours?

This feels a lot like the podcast Nice White Parents.

I am not aware of any option that had VM with split articulation. That is a complete non-issue. Taylor's recommendation does introduce split articulations for other schools but I guess that is OK for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’re a VM family was clear in the original options that our neighborhood was a bargaining chip for MCPS, especially in the options that split the school in half along beach drive. We are happy that Taylor’s rev keeps VM together.

We support any elementary school that wants to avoid split articulation for HS. We don’t support well-off parents deciding and proposing which less well-off families get booted out of their school.

The irony of this whole argument is that I grew up a FARMS kid and now I’m teaching your children, but now my kids aren’t good enough to be in a school with yours?

This feels a lot like the podcast Nice White Parents.

I am not aware of any option that had VM with split articulation. That is a complete non-issue. Taylor's recommendation does introduce split articulations for other schools but I guess that is OK for you.

Either you’re a liar or ignorant. Let’s go with ignorant. Then take the time to examine the data and become aware before you sling mud.

At least option D did.

[Anonymous]

They are a teacher. They don’t have time to day drink and scrutinize the entire boundary study.

[Anonymous]

This honestly shouldn't be about what parents want. It should be about what is best for the kids. The realities are:
- MCPS does not allocate extra resources to high schools based on the number of FARMS students (despite being allocated state funding for this purpose)
- Mountains of research show that concentrated poverty is really bad for kids
- just like wealthy kids there are many bright kids from families with low incomes and many kids that are struggling, but due to the challenges associated with poverty a much larger share of kids from low income families struggle academically
- spreading out kids with more needs across high schools means more resources to support the struggling kids

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They left Woodlin at Einstein as a new island. That was to balance FARMS.

They can create islands for Wheaton Woods or Viers Mill to go to WJ and send all of Garrett Park to Woodward for the same reason.

Those articulation splits? Prime candidates for rezoning with the upcoming elementary boundary study.

But see the dark black line? The one separating regions? This is among the places they went wrong, not allowing any swap of elementary catchments that would cross that line. Nothing from WJ to Whitman, of course, or swaps with BCC (cue MC Hammer). Totally unnecessary, as the line could have been drawn with the same high schools after figuring out a better rezoning articulation.

Same shoot-yourself-in-the-foot constraint on the Crown study. Not to mention the failure at any point to combine the studies to allow logical swaps between, say, Churchill and Whitman, or RM and Woodward, or...

Switching 2 elmentary schools to WJ at the 11th hour to please Farmland families who bought in the wrong neighborhood is arbitrary and capricious. This faced a year of notice and comment. Everyone knew Woodward was taking on some DCC, not WJ

This iteration was presented at the 11th hour. The original Option B had Viers Mill at Woodward. His recommendation added Wheaton Woods as well which drove up the utilization and FARM rates at Woodward higher.

But it solved issues at Wheaton. And Woodward is still 10% under capacity. You have your new construction and below county avg and region avg FARMS. You were always going to be Woodward

But WJ below the 80% target minimum

[Anonymous]

I am not aware of any option that had VM with split articulation. That is a complete non-issue. Taylor's recommendation does introduce split articulations for other schools but I guess that is OK for you.

Either you’re a liar or ignorant. Let’s go with ignorant. Then take the time to examine the data and become aware before you sling mud.

At least option D did.

The fact remains that nobody here suggests that VM should go into split articulation. For VM families it is either Taylor recommendation which moves them to a new school that still segregates them or what is being proposed here - a more balanced approach where they end up with in a more diverse school with lower FARMS. So if you are VM or WW parent, you should support the proposed change from what Taylor is recommending since you will end up in academically stronger school and still be without split articulation and no significant change in distance.

You, I suspect is neither. Most posts here pretending to be VM or WW are actually from the same poster who is trying to cash in on projected property value increase for homes in the new WJ zone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not aware of any option that had VM with split articulation. That is a complete non-issue. Taylor's recommendation does introduce split articulations for other schools but I guess that is OK for you.

Either you’re a liar or ignorant. Let’s go with ignorant. Then take the time to examine the data and become aware before you sling mud.

At least option D did.

The fact remains that nobody here suggests that VM should go into split articulation. For VM families it is either Taylor recommendation which moves them to a new school that still segregates them or what is being proposed here - a more balanced approach where they end up with in a more diverse school with lower FARMS. So if you are VM or WW parent, you should support the proposed change from what Taylor is recommending since you will end up in academically stronger school and still be without split articulation and no significant change in distance.

You, I suspect is neither. Most posts here pretending to be VM or WW are actually from the same poster who is trying to cash in on projected property value increase for homes in the new WJ zone.

This pretentiousness of claiming VM and WW can’t think for themselves is wrong. And no, there are multiple posters here. As a VM family I’m with the teacher who posted above. I don’t want to be used by the Farmland and Luxmanor people.

[Anonymous]

The fact remains that nobody here suggests that VM should go into split articulation. For VM families it is either Taylor recommendation which moves them to a new school that still segregates them or what is being proposed here - a more balanced approach where they end up with in a more diverse school with lower FARMS. So if you are VM or WW parent, you should support the proposed change from what Taylor is recommending since you will end up in academically stronger school and still be without split articulation and no significant change in distance.

You, I suspect , are neither. Most posts here pretending to be VM or WW are actually from the same poster who is trying to cash in on projected property value increase for homes in the new WJ zone.

This pretentiousness of claiming VM and WW can’t think for themselves is wrong. And no, there are multiple posters here. As a VM family I’m with the teacher who posted above. I don’t want to be used by the Farmland and Luxmanor people.

Nobody is asking you to. Teacher who posted above simply stated that they don't want to go into split articulation, which is understandable. You should support what you think is in your best interest. Allow Farmland and Luxmanor people to do the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We’re a VM family was clear in the original options that our neighborhood was a bargaining chip for MCPS, especially in the options that split the school in half along beach drive. We are happy that Taylor’s rev keeps VM together.

We support any elementary school that wants to avoid split articulation for HS. We don’t support well-off parents deciding and proposing which less well-off families get booted out of their school.

The irony of this whole argument is that I grew up a FARMS kid and now I’m teaching your children, but now my kids aren’t good enough to be in a school with yours?

This feels a lot like the podcast Nice White Parents.

This honestly shouldn't be about what parents want. It should be about what is best for the kids. The realities are:
- MCPS does not allocate extra resources to high schools based on the number of FARMS students (despite being allocated state funding for this purpose)
- Mountains of research show that concentrated poverty is really bad for kids
- just like wealthy kids there are many bright kids from families with low incomes and many kids that are struggling, but due to the challenges associated with poverty a much larger share of kids from low income families struggle academically
- spreading out kids with more needs across high schools means more resources to support the struggling kids

[Anonymous]

We are not in the catchment area being discussed, but it does seem odd that there is a fairly simple way to have more even FARMs rates between the two schools, and Taylor went with the one that creates a bigger discrepancy. If there is a way to even it out, it should be done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are not in the catchment area being discussed, but it does seem odd that there is a fairly simple way to have more even FARMs rates between the two schools, and Taylor went with the one that creates a bigger discrepancy. If there is a way to even it out, it should be done.

It's about property values

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We’re a VM family was clear in the original options that our neighborhood was a bargaining chip for MCPS, especially in the options that split the school in half along beach drive. We are happy that Taylor’s rev keeps VM together.

We support any elementary school that wants to avoid split articulation for HS. We don’t support well-off parents deciding and proposing which less well-off families get booted out of their school.

The irony of this whole argument is that I grew up a FARMS kid and now I’m teaching your children, but now my kids aren’t good enough to be in a school with yours?

This feels a lot like the podcast Nice White Parents.

Thank you for explaining your thoughts. If parents want to advocate for their school not to be split, they do have to show an alternative and it places them in the position of needing to demonstrate a viable option. It adds credibility. It is not about keeping your kids out of their school, or at least not for the majority of interested parents.

I went to high and low FARMS schools as a kid. I do not want my kid going to a school that is very high FARMS or very low FARMS. I think balancing them, to the extent possible, is the best way. And I think it is valid to ask for the Board to consider it.