Feedback from uptown all girls for K?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:(from what I can tell, Trinity, with its closed culture and heavy emphasis on legacy admissions, is going through the academic equivalent of the Hapsburg decline)

How can you tell?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How can you tell?

Their early exmissions this year on Instagram are awful and they're the only TT that doesn't post detailed college matriculation numbers on their website - if you want to know exactly how many graduates in the last 5 years attended Harvard, Brearley and Horace Mann and Dalton and Collegiate surface those numbers right on their college guidance pages, Trinity does not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I’m not sure that I understand the game theory of Brearley here. How does this benefit them?

NP - Brearley does a good job at presenting a global vision and gives the feeling of attending an international private school that helps children become global citizens. They seem to make an effort to best position themselves to attract international money. The schools are a business and as tuition continues to increase they will need to find a bigger pool of families that can afford it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can you tell?

Their early exmissions this year on Instagram are awful and they're the only TT that doesn't post detailed college matriculation numbers on their website - if you want to know exactly how many graduates in the last 5 years attended Harvard, Brearley and Horace Mann and Dalton and Collegiate surface those numbers right on their college guidance pages, Trinity does not.

I think they are pretty good! It’s early, it’s self reported only… the era of feeding all to all ivies is done

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can you tell?

Their early exmissions this year on Instagram are awful and they're the only TT that doesn't post detailed college matriculation numbers on their website - if you want to know exactly how many graduates in the last 5 years attended Harvard, Brearley and Horace Mann and Dalton and Collegiate surface those numbers right on their college guidance pages, Trinity does not.

I think they are pretty good! It’s early, it’s self reported only… the era of feeding all to all ivies is done

If 5 early to Princeton is a rapidly declining academic institution… I’ll take the risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can you tell?

Their early exmissions this year on Instagram are awful and they're the only TT that doesn't post detailed college matriculation numbers on their website - if you want to know exactly how many graduates in the last 5 years attended Harvard, Brearley and Horace Mann and Dalton and Collegiate surface those numbers right on their college guidance pages, Trinity does not.

I think they are pretty good! It’s early, it’s self reported only… the era of feeding all to all ivies is done

Self-reporting makes admissions look better since students admitted to top schools are more likely to publicize their achievements. Having said that, I agree that Trinity's admissions look really good (for EA).

Trinity's college admission page has always been vague. I agree it is annoying but it does not mean matriculations are deteriorating. What it might mean is that the school administration is over-confident and does not feel the need to bother and disclose full information. It is still a warning flag but it highlights a different issue (complacency, not falling quality of education).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are at a public PK, and submitted a FCL to Brearley, so feel pretty out of it. When did people know about this new direction? Do we think the letter was just discarded? We feel pretty lost and unsure about what this means

We got the new info from our Preschool director who talks directly to the head of admissions there.

It’s definitely a brand new thing for this year.

My guess is they just won’t weigh the FCL in to the application at all. I don’t think it takes away from “points” but also it’s not adding points. If that makes sense.

But honestly I do not know what they will do with prop who have already submitted FCL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are at a public PK, and submitted a FCL to Brearley, so feel pretty out of it. When did people know about this new direction? Do we think the letter was just discarded? We feel pretty lost and unsure about what this means

We got the new info from our Preschool director who talks directly to the head of admissions there.

It’s definitely a brand new thing for this year.

My guess is they just won’t weigh the FCL in to the application at all. I don’t think it takes away from “points” but also it’s not adding points. If that makes sense.

But honestly I do not know what they will do with prop who have already submitted FCL.

I bet it could add points! Everyone wants to feel loved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are at a public PK, and submitted a FCL to Brearley, so feel pretty out of it. When did people know about this new direction? Do we think the letter was just discarded? We feel pretty lost and unsure about what this means

We got the new info from our Preschool director who talks directly to the head of admissions there.

It’s definitely a brand new thing for this year.

My guess is they just won’t weigh the FCL in to the application at all. I don’t think it takes away from “points” but also it’s not adding points. If that makes sense.

But honestly I do not know what they will do with prop who have already submitted FCL.

I bet it could add points! Everyone wants to feel loved.

Agree. I see no scenario where telling a school you would accept if offered admission could be considered a negative.

[Anonymous]

Anyone get more updated info from Chapin?

Our PSD said they are still in committees and haven’t made any decisions. Our PSD will check in this Thursday/ Friday hoping for more info.

We did get a second round of very strong feedback from Brearley, which was good news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are at a public PK, and submitted a FCL to Brearley, so feel pretty out of it. When did people know about this new direction? Do we think the letter was just discarded? We feel pretty lost and unsure about what this means

We got the new info from our Preschool director who talks directly to the head of admissions there.

It’s definitely a brand new thing for this year.

My guess is they just won’t weigh the FCL in to the application at all. I don’t think it takes away from “points” but also it’s not adding points. If that makes sense.

But honestly I do not know what they will do with prop who have already submitted FCL.

I bet it could add points! Everyone wants to feel loved.

Agree. I see no scenario where telling a school you would accept if offered admission could be considered a negative.

Totally agree with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can you tell?

Their early exmissions this year on Instagram are awful and they're the only TT that doesn't post detailed college matriculation numbers on their website - if you want to know exactly how many graduates in the last 5 years attended Harvard, Brearley and Horace Mann and Dalton and Collegiate surface those numbers right on their college guidance pages, Trinity does not.

I think they are pretty good! It’s early, it’s self reported only… the era of feeding all to all ivies is done

If 5 early to Princeton is a rapidly declining academic institution… I’ll take the risk.

Well, they could have gotten into Princeton without Trinity. One has a professor parent there, another's parent is on the board... etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like Brearley’s model is probably where a lot of TT/2T admissions are going to end up, something more akin to college admissions; there are more strong applicants than ever nowadays, coming from a wider range of backgrounds, and the relationship/legacy/PSD-heavy admissions approach of the past is going to leave schools with academically weaker and less interesting student bodies.

Not sure you can tell much about academic success from a 5 year old's school report and 1 hour playdate. Which is why the schoo's are known to counsel out and make room for others who test well later on

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a public PK, and submitted a FCL to Brearley, so feel pretty out of it. When did people know about this new direction? Do we think the letter was just discarded? We feel pretty lost and unsure about what this means

We got the new info from our Preschool director who talks directly to the head of admissions there.

It’s definitely a brand new thing for this year.

My guess is they just won’t weigh the FCL in to the application at all. I don’t think it takes away from “points” but also it’s not adding points. If that makes sense.

But honestly I do not know what they will do with prop who have already submitted FCL.

I bet it could add points! Everyone wants to feel loved.

Agree. I see no scenario where telling a school you would accept if offered admission could be considered a negative.

Totally agree with this. [/quote

100 percent. This isnt rocket science - think many are overthinking it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone get more updated info from Chapin?

Our PSD said they are still in committees and haven’t made any decisions. Our PSD will check in this Thursday/ Friday hoping for more info.

We did get a second round of very strong feedback from Brearley, which was good news.

Waiting on this, too. We thought we'd know more definitively by now!