Feedback from uptown all girls for K?

[Anonymous]

In an act of good faith, I who made them am reporting the Bari Weiss and anything that is repetitive so the info is them clearer and easier to digest. I really do just want people to have the information. I don’t hate the school — it’s like a bad breakup with a person you once loved who you find out kept secrets from you and strung you along when you asked for clarity. I will see what i can do with admin.

[Anonymous]

A boyfriend who emptied your savings

[Anonymous]

I did my best, not sure they will take them all down. Anything I wrote about the turnover in deans and admin is completely factcheckable. Just use linked in and Brearley’s own website. When we admitted in, most people in those roles had been there for at least 10 years. Total rehaul and change of direction. Look at new admin, their old schools and see if the direction is what you want. Do not expect them to provide clear info about your kid or the school’s direction or even how your kid is doing on standardized tests. They won’t give it to you making it very hard to apply out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did my best, not sure they will take them all down. Anything I wrote about the turnover in deans and admin is completely factcheckable. Just use linked in and Brearley’s own website. When we admitted in, most people in those roles had been there for at least 10 years. Total rehaul and change of direction. Look at new admin, their old schools and see if the direction is what you want. Do not expect them to provide clear info about your kid or the school’s direction or even how your kid is doing on standardized tests. They won’t give it to you making it very hard to apply out.

Just STOP, period.
If you want the truth to be out you’re hurting your credibility by doing this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did my best, not sure they will take them all down. Anything I wrote about the turnover in deans and admin is completely factcheckable. Just use linked in and Brearley’s own website. When we admitted in, most people in those roles had been there for at least 10 years. Total rehaul and change of direction. Look at new admin, their old schools and see if the direction is what you want. Do not expect them to provide clear info about your kid or the school’s direction or even how your kid is doing on standardized tests. They won’t give it to you making it very hard to apply out.

Just STOP, period.
If you want the truth to be out you’re hurting your credibility by doing this.

I think she’s making a good faith effort to self-correct. She’s also been receptive to your feedback about the repetitiveness and seems to have done some self-reflection (eg., comparing it to an ex you once loved but had a difficult breakup). You almost never see this in these anonymous forums as most are defensive and just double down. Give her a break. She’s a flawed human like all of us but at least she owns it.

[Anonymous]

I pruned out anything that was repetitive or people calling me a liar and me responding in haste, back and forth about tiny curriculum points. I may not be right, but I am not a liar and have never really been called one before.
I am not on social media and didn’t spend almost anytime on the internet until a couple years ago when my daughter’s school got real weird all the sudden, and I had to spend my time becoming a curriculum and admin expert. The psych stuff is more worth attention than the curriculum. Finding out how much the pysvh department was involved in my kid’s day to day was upsetting and what I didn’t know then but know now (having now paid to talk to another child psych about the surveys and feelings work my daughter was doing without my permission). I have now found out it’s considered unethical and counterproductive for a therapist to operate with kids in this way. It’s not clear it’s legal, but I’m sure I signed all my rights away when I signed the contract.

. At the very least, the efficacy of an SEL curriculum is disputed (the therapist recommended Bad Therapy by Abigail Shrier — check it out), but the biggest thing is that my daughter hates it, wants to spend more time doing academic work, and she has friends and has always been totally fine socially so it’s not a concern of mine. She’s never been in trouble for bullying and has always had friends. I asked to opt out and told no, part of why we decided to leave.


The thread from 22 to 18 pages I assume it’s more explicable now? Best of luck. Fact check me — info is good even if you don’t like editorial take.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I pruned out anything that was repetitive or people calling me a liar and me responding in haste, back and forth about tiny curriculum points. I may not be right, but I am not a liar and have never really been called one before.
I am not on social media and didn’t spend almost anytime on the internet until a couple years ago when my daughter’s school got real weird all the sudden, and I had to spend my time becoming a curriculum and admin expert. The psych stuff is more worth attention than the curriculum. Finding out how much the pysvh department was involved in my kid’s day to day was upsetting and what I didn’t know then but know now (having now paid to talk to another child psych about the surveys and feelings work my daughter was doing without my permission). I have now found out it’s considered unethical and counterproductive for a therapist to operate with kids in this way. It’s not clear it’s legal, but I’m sure I signed all my rights away when I signed the contract.

. At the very least, the efficacy of an SEL curriculum is disputed (the therapist recommended Bad Therapy by Abigail Shrier — check it out), but the biggest thing is that my daughter hates it, wants to spend more time doing academic work, and she has friends and has always been totally fine socially so it’s not a concern of mine. She’s never been in trouble for bullying and has always had friends. I asked to opt out and told no, part of why we decided to leave.


The thread from 22 to 18 pages I assume it’s more explicable now? Best of luck. Fact check me — info is good even if you don’t like editorial take.

She's still going. Pretty amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I pruned out anything that was repetitive or people calling me a liar and me responding in haste, back and forth about tiny curriculum points. I may not be right, but I am not a liar and have never really been called one before.

I personally do appreciate you pouring your heart out even though it may seem overabundant here. I take it as an important data point. But we need to send our girls somewhere, and in the absence of concrete alternatives and concrete points of comparison with other specific schools, it becomes less actionable -- who is to say there is no equally unhappy parent at e.g. Spence or other reputationally good schools? We understand the things you are upset about at B; if you could speak to how those things are better at S, C, T, HM, or R etc, that would be helpful.

[Anonymous]

this was good advice, thanks. did my best.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did my best, not sure they will take them all down. Anything I wrote about the turnover in deans and admin is completely factcheckable. Just use linked in and Brearley’s own website. When we admitted in, most people in those roles had been there for at least 10 years. Total rehaul and change of direction. Look at new admin, their old schools and see if the direction is what you want. Do not expect them to provide clear info about your kid or the school’s direction or even how your kid is doing on standardized tests. They won’t give it to you making it very hard to apply out.

Just STOP, period.
If you want the truth to be out you’re hurting your credibility by doing this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If chapin has the “worst” college outcomes in the last 5 years, why does everyone want to go there?

It’s the worst of the top tier 3 but there are 7 NYC girls schools.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, I am a nerd. Below is a link to a review about the history book the poster threw at me as an example of Great Books Curriculum talking about how it gives Carmen Miranda more space than Robert Oppenheimer and George Washington, so yeah, they like have a book.

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion/no-121-the-mysterious-history-of-worlds-together-worlds-apart/




this was good advice, thanks. did my best.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did my best, not sure they will take them all down. Anything I wrote about the turnover in deans and admin is completely factcheckable. Just use linked in and Brearley’s own website. When we admitted in, most people in those roles had been there for at least 10 years. Total rehaul and change of direction. Look at new admin, their old schools and see if the direction is what you want. Do not expect them to provide clear info about your kid or the school’s direction or even how your kid is doing on standardized tests. They won’t give it to you making it very hard to apply out.

Just STOP, period.
If you want the truth to be out you’re hurting your credibility by doing this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I am a nerd. Below is a link to a review about the history book the poster threw at me as an example of Great Books Curriculum talking about how it gives Carmen Miranda more space than Robert Oppenheimer and George Washington, so yeah, they like have a book.

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion/no-121-the-mysterious-history-of-worlds-together-worlds-apart/

This is a review of the 2002 version; it's on like its 7th edition now and has been cleaned up and standardized in all sorts of ways, there's even a version aligned with the AP test. I have a 2024 e-book handy and Washington comes up 3 times, including a whole chapter section on "The North American War of Independence." Che Guevara is mentioned once, Carmen Miranda not at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Sorry, I am a nerd. Below is a link to a review about the history book the poster threw at me as an example of Great Books Curriculum talking about how it gives Carmen Miranda more space than Robert Oppenheimer and George Washington, so yeah, they like have a book.

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion/no-121-the-mysterious-history-of-worlds-together-worlds-apart/




this was good advice, thanks. did my best.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did my best, not sure they will take them all down. Anything I wrote about the turnover in deans and admin is completely factcheckable. Just use linked in and Brearley’s own website. When we admitted in, most people in those roles had been there for at least 10 years. Total rehaul and change of direction. Look at new admin, their old schools and see if the direction is what you want. Do not expect them to provide clear info about your kid or the school’s direction or even how your kid is doing on standardized tests. They won’t give it to you making it very hard to apply out.

Just STOP, period.
If you want the truth to be out you’re hurting your credibility by doing this.

I did not throw it out to you as an example of a great books curriculum. I was correcting your false statement that the history class has no text book. I simply said that was not true as I’ve seen the text book. I don’t know anything about the book. I was correcting your misstatement. You are really starting to sound unhinged. It’s unbelievable.

[Anonymous]

What is going on here? I cannot fathom a credible parent in New York spending this much time airing their grievances against their daughter's school. I understand putting out concerns, but at this point it's unhinged and, frankly, comes off as petty and ridiculous rather than a balanced perspective.

That said, Brearley was our top choice, and we are excited to enroll our daughter for Kindergarten this fall. We also considered Chapin and Dalton, but ultimately, Brearley won us over with its impressive new facilities and the strength of the LS curriculum. The “under one roof” setup at Chapin felt cramped, and the "STEAM lab" seemed more like a glorified woodworking space than a cutting-edge space for applied sciences. While Dalton’s upper school curriculum was appealing, we had concerns about the small size of the LS classrooms and became concerned after a close friend had to seek out additional math tutoring.

Anyway - our decision has been made. If there are any current Brearley families out there, I’d love to hear some positive stories about what’s to come. And to the other new families, looking forward to meeting you all!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Spence’s head of school is relatively new, but the head of academics Eric Z has been there for many years. He led the math department before. I think the academics head at Brearley has a history background? I think Eric is really smart with the program design that aligned with the broader girls in STEM trend in the past decade, and that really helped their college outcomes.

Spence's new head of school is from Lakeside, basically a STEM powerhouse. It is a huge win if they want to keep pushing that path for girls. The matriculation numbers over last few years are impressive. The new head definitely knows what they're doing.