Eddie Murphy Bio on netflix

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Anonymous wrote:Are you guy kidding? Raw and delirious are considered top 10 stand up specials of all time and he didn’t have the type of movies Denzel did but he was very successful in his movie career and had lots of hits

She is judging his comedy by today's Puritanical standards where nothing is funny and everything is offensive.

Wrong.

I’m in my 50s and watched his original stand-up when it came out. I thought it was funny…but I was young.

Have you rewatched it recently? It’s not that funny. A lot if it was boring. Silly.

And I’m not judging it by puritanical standards or today’s values. I love comedy and my taste skews off color/offensive/pushing limits.

Like some others deemed legendary/icons/GOATS by prior generations, subsequent talents have dramatically eclipsed him—illustrating that he was a bit overrated.

ICYMI: his stand-up career was very short-lived. He had a limited amount of material and at some point realized he needed to hang up the microphone lest he tarnish his reputation. That’s okay, but it underscores how he really wasn’t the stand-up genius some people thought. Yes, his silly movie career (a la Sandler) was quite lucrative. So much so that he could have transitioned to a more serious/quasi-serious film career (a la Sandler), but he didn’t…because his pompous and difficult reputation preceded him (along with baby mama drama and drug issues).

You are vastly underrating his early movie career by calling it "silly." 48 Hours was the start of an entire genre - the buddy cop comedy - and Beverly Hills Cop continued it along. For a time, he was one of the biggest movie stars in the US.

you seem to be simultaneously arguing that Eddie was (i) overrated and (ii) a tremendous talent who limited his career because he was an a-hole. Pick a lane.

And I'm also in his 50s, and still think the early standup was hilarious.

I’m really not underestimating his early career. In fact, I think he had quick success with a number of legit films early on—so much so that he was well primed to transition into a far more substantial acting career. Heck, I said he could have transitioned to play roles like Denzel!

He always had presence. It’s what got him the SNL gig (after another black comic got it but was quickly let go) which opened the door to his two big stand up specials and movies. He was everywhere, riding a big wave of popularity.

But he had some scandals and generally burned some bridges in Hollywood, which obviously impacted his trajectory.

I’m not saying he was a failure. Rather, he could have been more successful but for his missteps and personality issues. I suspect he knows this and it probably irritates him.

His legacy is essentially a couple stand up specials that were raw and unique at the time (but not as funny as many of his successors), SNL (a handful of classic skits), and a highly profitable catalogue of movies—a few of which remain classics/solid but many of which skew silly.

Seems entirely plausible that a man of his age might look back and wish he could have been taken more seriously as an actor. Personally, I think he’s more talented than Will Smith, yet Will transitioned to a more substantial body of work than Eddie did.

Anyway, the ping of this thread is he’s put out a whitewash history…which I guess is to be expected. Everyone knows his ego is huge and he demands respect. Zero chance a more honest account of his life/career would happen.

Something is so odd about you comparing Eddie to the biggest and best known black actor on the planet and saying he could of been more like him. One is a comedic actor and one isn’t but you making the comparison is this weird race thing you’ve got going on

?

They both got famous at the same time in the early 80s, and they both competed for the Alex Haley role in Spike’s Malcolm X movie.

I mean, they were contemporaries who competed for roles…until Denzel eclipsed him.

ICYMI: Eddie wanted to be a serious actor…but he fell short.

Connect the dots that myriad commentators already have: Eddie went all in on the family film schmaltz following his scandal and because he was losing his audience, positive press, etc. Plus: once he was labeled as difficult to work with, he was shut out of some work.

Perhaps refresh your memory of the 80s and 90s when it comes to Eddie and Denzel, pp?

[Anonymous]

I love Eddie Murphy, his stand up and movies. Beverly Hills Cop is one of my favorite movies. I don’t really care about Denzel’s movies. They are both very good actors though.

[Anonymous]

Eddie did 2 wildly successful stand up specials: Delirious and Raw.

Then nada.

He teased returning to stand up in the 90s but never did.

Folks seem to forget how pressed he was to be famous. He acted and dressed like a rockstar in leather jumpsuits. Heck, he released an album where he sang. Do you people not remember “My Girl Likes to Party All the Time”?

His comedy was a lot like Sam Kinnison and Dice Clay (and Eddie himself lamented that they seemed to get away with dirty, not woke comedy in their past while he didn’t…but I mean, Kinnison died and Dice didn’t stop doing comedy, and instead evolved a bit with his routine).

I really think Eddie regrets that he couldn’t produce another stand-up special, but he abandoned the craft (whether due to lack of interest or talent).

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This thread is odd. Eddie wanted to be Denzel? Really? I mean he may have alienated folks and got shut out of opportunities but he was never going to give Denzel a run for his money. I think even Eddie Murphy knew that, hence him taking the roles he did.

Also, Denzel was the star of Malcolm X. Why would he have been competing with Eddie for another small part in the same film?

All in all I liked the doc and laughed a lot. Whatever reasons he did or didn't do this or that, he seems to be alright from where I'm sitting.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you guy kidding? Raw and delirious are considered top 10 stand up specials of all time and he didn’t have the type of movies Denzel did but he was very successful in his movie career and had lots of hits

She is judging his comedy by today's Puritanical standards where nothing is funny and everything is offensive.

Wrong.

I’m in my 50s and watched his original stand-up when it came out. I thought it was funny…but I was young.

Have you rewatched it recently? It’s not that funny. A lot if it was boring. Silly.

And I’m not judging it by puritanical standards or today’s values. I love comedy and my taste skews off color/offensive/pushing limits.

Like some others deemed legendary/icons/GOATS by prior generations, subsequent talents have dramatically eclipsed him—illustrating that he was a bit overrated.

ICYMI: his stand-up career was very short-lived. He had a limited amount of material and at some point realized he needed to hang up the microphone lest he tarnish his reputation. That’s okay, but it underscores how he really wasn’t the stand-up genius some people thought. Yes, his silly movie career (a la Sandler) was quite lucrative. So much so that he could have transitioned to a more serious/quasi-serious film career (a la Sandler), but he didn’t…because his pompous and difficult reputation preceded him (along with baby mama drama and drug issues).

You are vastly underrating his early movie career by calling it "silly." 48 Hours was the start of an entire genre - the buddy cop comedy - and Beverly Hills Cop continued it along. For a time, he was one of the biggest movie stars in the US.

you seem to be simultaneously arguing that Eddie was (i) overrated and (ii) a tremendous talent who limited his career because he was an a-hole. Pick a lane.

And I'm also in his 50s, and still think the early standup was hilarious.

I’m really not underestimating his early career. In fact, I think he had quick success with a number of legit films early on—so much so that he was well primed to transition into a far more substantial acting career. Heck, I said he could have transitioned to play roles like Denzel!

He always had presence. It’s what got him the SNL gig (after another black comic got it but was quickly let go) which opened the door to his two big stand up specials and movies. He was everywhere, riding a big wave of popularity.

But he had some scandals and generally burned some bridges in Hollywood, which obviously impacted his trajectory.

I’m not saying he was a failure. Rather, he could have been more successful but for his missteps and personality issues. I suspect he knows this and it probably irritates him.

His legacy is essentially a couple stand up specials that were raw and unique at the time (but not as funny as many of his successors), SNL (a handful of classic skits), and a highly profitable catalogue of movies—a few of which remain classics/solid but many of which skew silly.

Seems entirely plausible that a man of his age might look back and wish he could have been taken more seriously as an actor. Personally, I think he’s more talented than Will Smith, yet Will transitioned to a more substantial body of work than Eddie did.

Anyway, the ping of this thread is he’s put out a whitewash history…which I guess is to be expected. Everyone knows his ego is huge and he demands respect. Zero chance a more honest account of his life/career would happen.

Something is so odd about you comparing Eddie to the biggest and best known black actor on the planet and saying he could of been more like him. One is a comedic actor and one isn’t but you making the comparison is this weird race thing you’ve got going on

?

They both got famous at the same time in the early 80s, and they both competed for the Alex Haley role in Spike’s Malcolm X movie.

I mean, they were contemporaries who competed for roles…until Denzel eclipsed him.

ICYMI: Eddie wanted to be a serious actor…but he fell short.

Connect the dots that myriad commentators already have: Eddie went all in on the family film schmaltz following his scandal and because he was losing his audience, positive press, etc. Plus: once he was labeled as difficult to work with, he was shut out of some work.

Perhaps refresh your memory of the 80s and 90s when it comes to Eddie and Denzel, pp?

No, because nobody I’ve ever heard of has made that insane comparison. Jim Carey also didn’t take roles that Denzel did but has had a great career. I love Denzel and Eddie and have never thought of comparing their movie choices.

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Anonymous wrote:Eddie did 2 wildly successful stand up specials: Delirious and Raw.

Then nada.

He teased returning to stand up in the 90s but never did.

Folks seem to forget how pressed he was to be famous. He acted and dressed like a rockstar in leather jumpsuits. Heck, he released an album where he sang. Do you people not remember “My Girl Likes to Party All the Time”?

His comedy was a lot like Sam Kinnison and Dice Clay (and Eddie himself lamented that they seemed to get away with dirty, not woke comedy in their past while he didn’t…but I mean, Kinnison died and Dice didn’t stop doing comedy, and instead evolved a bit with his routine).

I really think Eddie regrets that he couldn’t produce another stand-up special, but he abandoned the craft (whether due to lack of interest or talent).

Eddie could do another stand up tour tomorrow and it would sell out all over the world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eddie did 2 wildly successful stand up specials: Delirious and Raw.

Then nada.

He teased returning to stand up in the 90s but never did.

Folks seem to forget how pressed he was to be famous. He acted and dressed like a rockstar in leather jumpsuits. Heck, he released an album where he sang. Do you people not remember “My Girl Likes to Party All the Time”?

His comedy was a lot like Sam Kinnison and Dice Clay (and Eddie himself lamented that they seemed to get away with dirty, not woke comedy in their past while he didn’t…but I mean, Kinnison died and Dice didn’t stop doing comedy, and instead evolved a bit with his routine).

I really think Eddie regrets that he couldn’t produce another stand-up special, but he abandoned the craft (whether due to lack of interest or talent).

Eddie could do another stand up tour tomorrow and it would sell out all over the world.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Are you guy kidding? Raw and delirious are considered top 10 stand up specials of all time and he didn’t have the type of movies Denzel did but he was very successful in his movie career and had lots of hits

She is judging his comedy by today's Puritanical standards where nothing is funny and everything is offensive.

Wrong.

I’m in my 50s and watched his original stand-up when it came out. I thought it was funny…but I was young.

Have you rewatched it recently? It’s not that funny. A lot if it was boring. Silly.

And I’m not judging it by puritanical standards or today’s values. I love comedy and my taste skews off color/offensive/pushing limits.

Like some others deemed legendary/icons/GOATS by prior generations, subsequent talents have dramatically eclipsed him—illustrating that he was a bit overrated.

ICYMI: his stand-up career was very short-lived. He had a limited amount of material and at some point realized he needed to hang up the microphone lest he tarnish his reputation. That’s okay, but it underscores how he really wasn’t the stand-up genius some people thought. Yes, his silly movie career (a la Sandler) was quite lucrative. So much so that he could have transitioned to a more serious/quasi-serious film career (a la Sandler), but he didn’t…because his pompous and difficult reputation preceded him (along with baby mama drama and drug issues).

You are vastly underrating his early movie career by calling it "silly." 48 Hours was the start of an entire genre - the buddy cop comedy - and Beverly Hills Cop continued it along. For a time, he was one of the biggest movie stars in the US.

you seem to be simultaneously arguing that Eddie was (i) overrated and (ii) a tremendous talent who limited his career because he was an a-hole. Pick a lane.

And I'm also in his 50s, and still think the early standup was hilarious.

I’m really not underestimating his early career. In fact, I think he had quick success with a number of legit films early on—so much so that he was well primed to transition into a far more substantial acting career. Heck, I said he could have transitioned to play roles like Denzel!

He always had presence. It’s what got him the SNL gig (after another black comic got it but was quickly let go) which opened the door to his two big stand up specials and movies. He was everywhere, riding a big wave of popularity.

But he had some scandals and generally burned some bridges in Hollywood, which obviously impacted his trajectory.

I’m not saying he was a failure. Rather, he could have been more successful but for his missteps and personality issues. I suspect he knows this and it probably irritates him.

His legacy is essentially a couple stand up specials that were raw and unique at the time (but not as funny as many of his successors), SNL (a handful of classic skits), and a highly profitable catalogue of movies—a few of which remain classics/solid but many of which skew silly.

Seems entirely plausible that a man of his age might look back and wish he could have been taken more seriously as an actor. Personally, I think he’s more talented than Will Smith, yet Will transitioned to a more substantial body of work than Eddie did.

Anyway, the ping of this thread is he’s put out a whitewash history…which I guess is to be expected. Everyone knows his ego is huge and he demands respect. Zero chance a more honest account of his life/career would happen.

Something is so odd about you comparing Eddie to the biggest and best known black actor on the planet and saying he could of been more like him. One is a comedic actor and one isn’t but you making the comparison is this weird race thing you’ve got going on

?

They both got famous at the same time in the early 80s, and they both competed for the Alex Haley role in Spike’s Malcolm X movie.

I mean, they were contemporaries who competed for roles…until Denzel eclipsed him.

ICYMI: Eddie wanted to be a serious actor…but he fell short.

Connect the dots that myriad commentators already have: Eddie went all in on the family film schmaltz following his scandal and because he was losing his audience, positive press, etc. Plus: once he was labeled as difficult to work with, he was shut out of some work.

Perhaps refresh your memory of the 80s and 90s when it comes to Eddie and Denzel, pp?

I think you are only comparing them because of their physical and ethnic background.

They are very different types of actors

Denzel is a serious actor and one of the most talented actors of any ethnic background from the past 30-40 years.

Eddie Murphy is a comedian who is a strong comedic actor, doing light fluff movies.

Comparing the two of them is akin to saying that Will Ferrel or John Belushi would have been the next Anthony Hopkins or Colin Firth.

No one would ever compare Eddie and Denzel as peer actors.

It's like picking two randos out of a hat where the only similarity is a an appearance feature

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you guy kidding? Raw and delirious are considered top 10 stand up specials of all time and he didn’t have the type of movies Denzel did but he was very successful in his movie career and had lots of hits

She is judging his comedy by today's Puritanical standards where nothing is funny and everything is offensive.

Wrong.

I’m in my 50s and watched his original stand-up when it came out. I thought it was funny…but I was young.

Have you rewatched it recently? It’s not that funny. A lot if it was boring. Silly.

And I’m not judging it by puritanical standards or today’s values. I love comedy and my taste skews off color/offensive/pushing limits.

Like some others deemed legendary/icons/GOATS by prior generations, subsequent talents have dramatically eclipsed him—illustrating that he was a bit overrated.

ICYMI: his stand-up career was very short-lived. He had a limited amount of material and at some point realized he needed to hang up the microphone lest he tarnish his reputation. That’s okay, but it underscores how he really wasn’t the stand-up genius some people thought. Yes, his silly movie career (a la Sandler) was quite lucrative. So much so that he could have transitioned to a more serious/quasi-serious film career (a la Sandler), but he didn’t…because his pompous and difficult reputation preceded him (along with baby mama drama and drug issues).

You are vastly underrating his early movie career by calling it "silly." 48 Hours was the start of an entire genre - the buddy cop comedy - and Beverly Hills Cop continued it along. For a time, he was one of the biggest movie stars in the US.

you seem to be simultaneously arguing that Eddie was (i) overrated and (ii) a tremendous talent who limited his career because he was an a-hole. Pick a lane.

And I'm also in his 50s, and still think the early standup was hilarious.

I’m really not underestimating his early career. In fact, I think he had quick success with a number of legit films early on—so much so that he was well primed to transition into a far more substantial acting career. Heck, I said he could have transitioned to play roles like Denzel!

He always had presence. It’s what got him the SNL gig (after another black comic got it but was quickly let go) which opened the door to his two big stand up specials and movies. He was everywhere, riding a big wave of popularity.

But he had some scandals and generally burned some bridges in Hollywood, which obviously impacted his trajectory.

I’m not saying he was a failure. Rather, he could have been more successful but for his missteps and personality issues. I suspect he knows this and it probably irritates him.

His legacy is essentially a couple stand up specials that were raw and unique at the time (but not as funny as many of his successors), SNL (a handful of classic skits), and a highly profitable catalogue of movies—a few of which remain classics/solid but many of which skew silly.

Seems entirely plausible that a man of his age might look back and wish he could have been taken more seriously as an actor. Personally, I think he’s more talented than Will Smith, yet Will transitioned to a more substantial body of work than Eddie did.

Anyway, the ping of this thread is he’s put out a whitewash history…which I guess is to be expected. Everyone knows his ego is huge and he demands respect. Zero chance a more honest account of his life/career would happen.

Something is so odd about you comparing Eddie to the biggest and best known black actor on the planet and saying he could of been more like him. One is a comedic actor and one isn’t but you making the comparison is this weird race thing you’ve got going on

?

They both got famous at the same time in the early 80s, and they both competed for the Alex Haley role in Spike’s Malcolm X movie.

I mean, they were contemporaries who competed for roles…until Denzel eclipsed him.

ICYMI: Eddie wanted to be a serious actor…but he fell short.

Connect the dots that myriad commentators already have: Eddie went all in on the family film schmaltz following his scandal and because he was losing his audience, positive press, etc. Plus: once he was labeled as difficult to work with, he was shut out of some work.

Perhaps refresh your memory of the 80s and 90s when it comes to Eddie and Denzel, pp?

No, because nobody I’ve ever heard of has made that insane comparison. Jim Carey also didn’t take roles that Denzel did but has had a great career. I love Denzel and Eddie and have never thought of comparing their movie choices.

No one ever save this person on dc moms would ever see Eddie and Denzel as peer actors.

It would be like comparing a football player with a figure skater.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you guy kidding? Raw and delirious are considered top 10 stand up specials of all time and he didn’t have the type of movies Denzel did but he was very successful in his movie career and had lots of hits

She is judging his comedy by today's Puritanical standards where nothing is funny and everything is offensive.

Wrong.

I’m in my 50s and watched his original stand-up when it came out. I thought it was funny…but I was young.

Have you rewatched it recently? It’s not that funny. A lot if it was boring. Silly.

And I’m not judging it by puritanical standards or today’s values. I love comedy and my taste skews off color/offensive/pushing limits.

Like some others deemed legendary/icons/GOATS by prior generations, subsequent talents have dramatically eclipsed him—illustrating that he was a bit overrated.

ICYMI: his stand-up career was very short-lived. He had a limited amount of material and at some point realized he needed to hang up the microphone lest he tarnish his reputation. That’s okay, but it underscores how he really wasn’t the stand-up genius some people thought. Yes, his silly movie career (a la Sandler) was quite lucrative. So much so that he could have transitioned to a more serious/quasi-serious film career (a la Sandler), but he didn’t…because his pompous and difficult reputation preceded him (along with baby mama drama and drug issues).

You are vastly underrating his early movie career by calling it "silly." 48 Hours was the start of an entire genre - the buddy cop comedy - and Beverly Hills Cop continued it along. For a time, he was one of the biggest movie stars in the US.

you seem to be simultaneously arguing that Eddie was (i) overrated and (ii) a tremendous talent who limited his career because he was an a-hole. Pick a lane.

And I'm also in his 50s, and still think the early standup was hilarious.

I’m really not underestimating his early career. In fact, I think he had quick success with a number of legit films early on—so much so that he was well primed to transition into a far more substantial acting career. Heck, I said he could have transitioned to play roles like Denzel!

He always had presence. It’s what got him the SNL gig (after another black comic got it but was quickly let go) which opened the door to his two big stand up specials and movies. He was everywhere, riding a big wave of popularity.

But he had some scandals and generally burned some bridges in Hollywood, which obviously impacted his trajectory.

I’m not saying he was a failure. Rather, he could have been more successful but for his missteps and personality issues. I suspect he knows this and it probably irritates him.

His legacy is essentially a couple stand up specials that were raw and unique at the time (but not as funny as many of his successors), SNL (a handful of classic skits), and a highly profitable catalogue of movies—a few of which remain classics/solid but many of which skew silly.

Seems entirely plausible that a man of his age might look back and wish he could have been taken more seriously as an actor. Personally, I think he’s more talented than Will Smith, yet Will transitioned to a more substantial body of work than Eddie did.

Anyway, the ping of this thread is he’s put out a whitewash history…which I guess is to be expected. Everyone knows his ego is huge and he demands respect. Zero chance a more honest account of his life/career would happen.

Will Smith was a kid actor and hip hop singer. Not an SNL stand up comedian.

If you really want to compare Eddie to another black actor, maybe a more logical one would be Chris Rock?

At least the entertainment genres and career direction would match.

But comparing him to Denzel is just so random. The only similarity is skin color.

[Anonymous]

As previous posters have already stated, OPs assessment of Eddie Murphy’s career and comparison to Denzel is very odd. Almost proves the doc’s theory about “there can only be one.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is odd. Eddie wanted to be Denzel? Really? I mean he may have alienated folks and got shut out of opportunities but he was never going to give Denzel a run for his money. I think even Eddie Murphy knew that, hence him taking the roles he did.

Also, Denzel was the star of Malcolm X. Why would he have been competing with Eddie for another small part in the same film?

All in all I liked the doc and laughed a lot. Whatever reasons he did or didn't do this or that, he seems to be alright from where I'm sitting.

That poster is just making up stuff. The truth is that early on, before Spike Lee was even attached, the studio was kicking around a very different version of Malcolm X. They were thinking more commercial, and yeah, Eddie Murphy was one of several names mentioned at that stage. Sydney Potier advised Eddie not to consider the role because he felt like Eddie's massive comedic success made him different from actors who would play such a dramatic role. He thought Eddie didn't fit that mold. So Eddie took his advice and said he wasn't interested in the role. Once Spike came on, he scrapped that whole approach. He rewrote the script from the ground up and had Denzel Washington in mind from the start. Eddie and Denzel weren’t competing for the same role at the same time. Eddie was floated way earlier under a totally different vision that never got made. Spike’s Malcolm X was always Denzel’s.

[Anonymous]

Way back I worked with a guy named Basel. Most angry and bitter guy you ever meet. Anyhow he was in Eddie Murphy's graduating class and he was voted most Funniest guy at Roosevelt High School

His Mom refused to take him on the SNL audition. Eddie went and got part. Basel went to college instead and on to grad school, graduating into a recession where he was a temp worker at Barclays Bank Credit Card division with me while he was looking for a full time role

Basel was not a happy man for the funniest guy.

[Anonymous]

Eddie Murphy has always been a family man. He made an insane amount of money in the eighties and nineties; he came from nothing and was able to give everything to his kids and extended family members. He got comfortable, which is ok to do and be. I can’t imagine how it must have been to see so many Friends, die of drug overdoses and alcoholism and lose all of their money I’m certain between his brother and uncle Ray and other family members. He just didn’t wanna lose it all so after a certain level of success, he backed off of fame for a while. I don’t think anybody should knock that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As previous posters have already stated, OPs assessment of Eddie Murphy’s career and comparison to Denzel is very odd. Almost proves the doc’s theory about “there can only be one.”

Ok just to clear this up, I am the OP and I definitely did NOT make the comparison between those two men. I only said, once it had been suggested that they were both very beautiful to look at - and basically the comparison ends there for me.