AI has taken good paying, stable jobs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So because some people can't figure out which jobs are not going to be replaced with AI, we should just give them money to do nothing? Why didn't countries do that during the industrial revolution, when automation began to reduce the need for manual labor in many roles? Because it's a stupid idea which would merely encourage indolence instead of initiative.

There are new types of jobs developing all the time, and plenty of jobs which are largely unaffected or merely enhanced by AI. Just because you're blind to them, or too wedded to what you do now, or to what you used to do, is no reason for society to just start supporting you instead of you figuring out how to support yourself.

If you want to handle things like we did during the Industrial Revolution, you are either ignorant of history or a psychopath.

Dp. You think feudalism was an idyllic life? The Industrial Revolution improved lives for many. Just ask the peasant farmers stuck in the countries that opted out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You haven't read Project 2025 idiot.

Police officers and Firefighters no more pay for injured on the job and no overtime pay. Yeah ...... Defund the police that's don the con.

You keep trying, it’s almost endearing.

Police and Firefighters are employees of counties or municipalities. How does Trump or Stephen Miller change the policies at those levels? The general public mistakenly believes that every department receives large allotments of federal funding. They do not. Additionally, Trump’s OBBB created a tax credit for overtime that disproportionately advantages police officers and firefighters.

Do better.

NP - who do you think funds municipalities? Where do you think funds come from? No jobs=no taxes

Municipalities won’t displace garbage men, firefighters and cops. Good luck to everyone else.

Robotics has entered into the garbage scene. Police now use drones and AI detection. Firefighters are moving into drone base deployment. Every electrical ad water company will be deploying drone in the next two years for inspections. If you don’t know the industry, you don’t know what moves are being played. Municipalities will be hit hard.

[Anonymous]

A.I. if combined with robotics, will take at least 80-90% of jobs. No way around that.

But it will be gradual over several years, perhaps decades, so no big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You haven't read Project 2025 idiot.

Police officers and Firefighters no more pay for injured on the job and no overtime pay. Yeah ...... Defund the police that's don the con.

You keep trying, it’s almost endearing.

Police and Firefighters are employees of counties or municipalities. How does Trump or Stephen Miller change the policies at those levels? The general public mistakenly believes that every department receives large allotments of federal funding. They do not. Additionally, Trump’s OBBB created a tax credit for overtime that disproportionately advantages police officers and firefighters.

Do better.

NP - who do you think funds municipalities? Where do you think funds come from? No jobs=no taxes

Municipalities won’t displace garbage men, firefighters and cops. Good luck to everyone else.

Robotics has entered into the garbage scene. Police now use drones and AI detection. Firefighters are moving into drone base deployment. Every electrical ad water company will be deploying drone in the next two years for inspections. If you don’t know the industry, you don’t know what moves are being played. Municipalities will be hit hard.

Yes, augmentation, not elimination. Keep going though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With the trillions of dollars companies will now make by eliminating humans and replacing them with AI, these companies should pay a universal income/salary to people who would otherwise have had entry level and managerial jobs that don’t exist anymore.

This is where we are. You can’t make a living anymore with a good paying stable job. It’s not available anymore. AI should be regulated. This is already not working out. Where are people supposed to go to get their foot in the door now and make a decent living when everything is being taken over by companies that make more money than they actually need?

And guess what, consumers aren’t going to be able to buy what they offer anyway since so many of us are already unemployed and underemployed.

If you aren’t encouraging your teens to consider the following types of professions, the economic fate of your children is on you.

Athletic Trainer
Carpenter
Chef
Child Care Worker
Dentist
Doctor
Electrician
EMT
Firefighter
HVAC
Human Resources
Lawyer
Mechanic
Mental Health Practitioner
Nurse
Occupational Therapist
Paramedic
Personal Trainer
Physical Therapist
Plumber
Police Officer
Public Relations
Sales
Social Worker
Speech Pathologist
Teachers
Veterinarian

Only the children of the people who frequent this board can pay for medical and dental school. I am afraid that field of work is closed to a lot of Americans.

Capitalists are greedy AF. When the supply of doctors, nurses and dentists becomes an issue they will import them from overseas and depress wages in the process.

Actually there are several companies now who hire doctors to train AI to replace doctors.
And a surgeon can remote operate with robotic surgery - getting more and more sophisticated - advances in battlefield surgery. So we will still have doctors and nurses, but they are not needed for all tasks. The future is here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today, NVDA's market cap reached 5 Trillion dollars, there are a lot of people who have made tons of money off of NVDA, myself included. However, as I was reading the NVDA reddit forum, I was wondering that we have 2 classes now, one class of people who have the funds to invest in the market and make money and the others who not only can't participate in the stock market AI boom but also are losing their jobs to AI. The situation as it currently stands is unsustainable, I am not hearing any properly thought out arguments as to how do we plan to managing disruption to society on such a large scale.

It's really the tale of two cities and that did not end well for the haves. I am a naturalized citizen, I left my country because middle class in America was solid and strong, it hurts me to see that what I left behind is now becoming the reality here. One one hand people are losing access to food stamps or losing jobs, on the other hand people making lots of money in stock market or in other recession proof careers, the gap is widening and it's heartbreaking. Americans elected to put billionaires in charge of the economy and their future, what could go wrong?

I’m a US citizen who spend the first part of my life in a country with an incredibly large and strong middle class… it’s been sad for me to see the U.S. killing its middle class off. The masses of the poor and very poor are increasing. Millions are one or two paychecks away from a food bank.

Meanwhile there are no limits for the well off, also a very large group. We have extravagant and expensive places, and people are paying for it, they have made so much money over the last decade.

The forward march of AI, and robotics, the inability to leverage debt like in the past, and the increasing exclusion of the middle class from higher education is already here. The biggest tax burden is shouldered by the middle class, too, and that situation is worsening in many localities. Soon it is just going to be the poor and the rich.

It’s not looking good, and I’m honestly not sure what can be done, and doubtful the will is there for a drastic change of course - that’s what it would take to save the middle class.

[Anonymous]

In essence, we are doomed unless people come to their senses and speak up and vote to put some sort of stop gaps on AI to save jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today, NVDA's market cap reached 5 Trillion dollars, there are a lot of people who have made tons of money off of NVDA, myself included. However, as I was reading the NVDA reddit forum, I was wondering that we have 2 classes now, one class of people who have the funds to invest in the market and make money and the others who not only can't participate in the stock market AI boom but also are losing their jobs to AI. The situation as it currently stands is unsustainable, I am not hearing any properly thought out arguments as to how do we plan to managing disruption to society on such a large scale.

It's really the tale of two cities and that did not end well for the haves. I am a naturalized citizen, I left my country because middle class in America was solid and strong, it hurts me to see that what I left behind is now becoming the reality here. One one hand people are losing access to food stamps or losing jobs, on the other hand people making lots of money in stock market or in other recession proof careers, the gap is widening and it's heartbreaking. Americans elected to put billionaires in charge of the economy and their future, what could go wrong?

I’m a US citizen who spend the first part of my life in a country with an incredibly large and strong middle class… it’s been sad for me to see the U.S. killing its middle class off. The masses of the poor and very poor are increasing. Millions are one or two paychecks away from a food bank.

Meanwhile there are no limits for the well off, also a very large group. We have extravagant and expensive places, and people are paying for it, they have made so much money over the last decade.

The forward march of AI, and robotics, the inability to leverage debt like in the past, and the increasing exclusion of the middle class from higher education is already here. The biggest tax burden is shouldered by the middle class, too, and that situation is worsening in many localities. Soon it is just going to be the poor and the rich.

It’s not looking good, and I’m honestly not sure what can be done, and doubtful the will is there for a drastic change of course - that’s what it would take to save the middle class.

I agree with much of what you say, but this comment is not true. The top 1% of earners pay 40% of all taxes.

A massive problem though is that while the top 1% pay a large share...the top 0.1% do not because they have much of their wealth tied up in stock and other assets which are only taxes when capital gains are realized. They can do things like borrow massive amounts against this stock tax-free...and even tax an interest deduction on the borrowing. It is also worth it to this group to pay tax folks big $$$s to set up all kinds of tax-avoidance schemes.

You may not feel sorry for an investment banker or BigLaw partner making $1MM+...but that's not enough money to engage in the various schemes above and it's still W2 income...so they pay the taxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With the trillions of dollars companies will now make by eliminating humans and replacing them with AI, these companies should pay a universal income/salary to people who would otherwise have had entry level and managerial jobs that don’t exist anymore.

This is where we are. You can’t make a living anymore with a good paying stable job. It’s not available anymore. AI should be regulated. This is already not working out. Where are people supposed to go to get their foot in the door now and make a decent living when everything is being taken over by companies that make more money than they actually need?

And guess what, consumers aren’t going to be able to buy what they offer anyway since so many of us are already unemployed and underemployed.

Oh I agree some politician somewhere is going to get elected proposing to “tax the robots.” It just isn’t likely to be in the United States. I am old enough to remember the pressure to not tax Internet commerce.

[Anonymous]

This thread is why Congress needs to act and ban AI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With the trillions of dollars companies will now make by eliminating humans and replacing them with AI, these companies should pay a universal income/salary to people who would otherwise have had entry level and managerial jobs that don’t exist anymore.

This is where we are. You can’t make a living anymore with a good paying stable job. It’s not available anymore. AI should be regulated. This is already not working out. Where are people supposed to go to get their foot in the door now and make a decent living when everything is being taken over by companies that make more money than they actually need?

And guess what, consumers aren’t going to be able to buy what they offer anyway since so many of us are already unemployed and underemployed.

If you aren’t encouraging your teens to consider the following types of professions, the economic fate of your children is on you.

Athletic Trainer
Carpenter
Chef
Child Care Worker
Dentist
Doctor
Electrician
EMT
Firefighter
HVAC
Human Resources
Lawyer
Mechanic
Mental Health Practitioner
Nurse
Occupational Therapist
Paramedic
Personal Trainer
Physical Therapist
Plumber
Police Officer
Public Relations
Sales
Social Worker
Speech Pathologist
Teachers
Veterinarian

You mean low paying jobs to serve you.

These businesses hire to fire all the time depending on profits. Ai is an excuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is why Congress needs to act and ban AI.

They’re all getting rich and they don’t even have to show up for work. They’re not going to ban anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So because some people can't figure out which jobs are not going to be replaced with AI, we should just give them money to do nothing? Why didn't countries do that during the industrial revolution, when automation began to reduce the need for manual labor in many roles? Because it's a stupid idea which would merely encourage indolence instead of initiative.

There are new types of jobs developing all the time, and plenty of jobs which are largely unaffected or merely enhanced by AI. Just because you're blind to them, or too wedded to what you do now, or to what you used to do, is no reason for society to just start supporting you instead of you figuring out how to support yourself.

If you want to handle things like we did during the Industrial Revolution, you are either ignorant of history or a psychopath.

Are you familiar with the term "Luddite"? That movement was futile then and would be so now. Adapt or don't it's your choice, but society should not bear the burden of those who choose to remain stagnant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is why Congress needs to act and ban AI.

Congress has completely abandoned its constitutional role. It's red team vs blue team middle school bs 24/7. And Mike Johnson is the worst Speaker in the history of America. A soulless, spineless dweeb. At least Pelosi got things done. But asking Congress to do anything about anything is pointless. My dog is much more sensible and productive than Congress in 2025.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With the trillions of dollars companies will now make by eliminating humans and replacing them with AI, these companies should pay a universal income/salary to people who would otherwise have had entry level and managerial jobs that don’t exist anymore.

This is where we are. You can’t make a living anymore with a good paying stable job. It’s not available anymore. AI should be regulated. This is already not working out. Where are people supposed to go to get their foot in the door now and make a decent living when everything is being taken over by companies that make more money than they actually need?

And guess what, consumers aren’t going to be able to buy what they offer anyway since so many of us are already unemployed and underemployed.

If you aren’t encouraging your teens to consider the following types of professions, the economic fate of your children is on you.

Athletic Trainer
Carpenter
Chef
Child Care Worker
Dentist
Doctor
Electrician
EMT
Firefighter
HVAC
Human Resources
Lawyer
Mechanic
Mental Health Practitioner
Nurse
Occupational Therapist
Paramedic
Personal Trainer
Physical Therapist
Plumber
Police Officer
Public Relations
Sales
Social Worker
Speech Pathologist
Teachers
Veterinarian

You mean low paying jobs to serve you.

Is that better than UBI? Wealthy people shouldn’t expect to remain wealthy through UBI.