Haverford

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi all - my child is being recruited by Haverford and would love any feedback. We are coming from a Christian school, so I am worried it might be a little too left for us. Anyone have kids that go there? Is there a Christian community? Thanks for any info at all - the good, bad and ugly.

It's unabashedly liberal and the kids are smart and kind. It is not anti-religion, but most students are anti-maga and anti-corruption/trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one who is "an obnoxious maga" will be given the time of day at haverford or bryn mawr, for that matter.

No one who is an obnoxious maga will be given the time of day at any LAC. right of center or center will be fine.

Where did OP describe their DC as maga? OP only said Christian. Pete Buttigieg and James Tallerico are both liberals and Christian who can cite any bible and verse of the Bible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, the bottom line is that the overwhelming majority of the nation's top liberal arts colleges lean left, typically very much so, and Haverford is no exception. If your kid isn't ready for that, they need to look pretty far down the list to find a good fit.

This.

They will meet people with different ideas at college. You should want them to. Only then will they be able to start learning who they are, separate from you.

You cannot censor what they are exposed to into adulthood.

We liked Haverford. It seemed like a very small, close community. They have solid values.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Google Haverford College. The first result is an AI Overview which states:

"Haverford College faces criticism for being overly "woke" and a potentially hostile environment for dissenting views.... A culture of self-censorship, intimidation, and a failure to address anti-Jewish harassment...."

Many students were verbally & physically prevented from attending classes a year ago due to a protest fueled by super-woke students. Check out other online sources for first hand accounts shared by disgruntled Haverford College students.

The environment at Haverford College may be more super-woke than that found at Macalester College (less intimidation at Macalester for those who hold differing opinions.)

Maybe in your algorithm that pops up, because it know what you want to hear. Mine says nothing of the sort. Weirdo.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Used to be one of the best LACs decades ago. We toured two years ago and never applied because it seemed way, way too woke for our taste. Imposingly woke. You need to visit.

Nonsense, I have visited Haverford multiple times and went on tours as well.There wasn’t a single thing that could be considered “woke”. It’s a liberal school and very small so anyone should visit for fit. It just stop the idiotic blithering about “woke”.

I am a Haverford parent and I couldn't agree more.

[Anonymous]

People used to care about things that actually matter like education or outcomes. What a useless thread.

[Anonymous]

DD and I toured Haverford and Swarthmore recently back to back. She is somewhat conservative but not overly so. She loved Swarthmore but found Haverford too "woke." I try to caution her by saying that we should not base our judgement based just on a 90 min visit. Some things that she mentioned: Assistant Director of Admissions who gave us an info talk was dressed somewhat unconventionally (bandana in her hair and tanktop showing multiple tattoos on her arm), same person encouraged tour students to introduce themselves with pronouns "if they are comfortable," about a third of the tour participants looked trans or gender neutral, student guide emphasized that 60-70 percent of dorm rooms are singles with no roommates, and also emphasized the "student compact" assemblies which sounded like a groupthink exercise. The campus was gorgeous but based on the visit, she is not so excited to apply to Haverford anymore. She found the Swarthmore tour much more "normal" and very much liked what she saw/heard there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Davidson, Richmond, Denison may offer an LAC experience that’s friendlier for more conservative students

Of these, only Davidson is an academic peer of Haverford.

Sorry, none of these LACs are academic peers of Haverford. (They may have other things in common, however...)

[Anonymous]

Haverford is an intellectual place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Davidson, Richmond, Denison may offer an LAC experience that’s friendlier for more conservative students

Of these, only Davidson is an academic peer of Haverford.

Sorry, none of these LACs are academic peers of Haverford. (They may have other things in common, however...)

Disagree. Davidson is a better school, but it could be considered an academic peer. It is certainly more welcoming to a wider range of political viewpoints.

[Anonymous]

MAGA will not feel comfortable at any decent university. The point of college is to learn critical thinking skills and analysis. MAGA is all about obedience towards Trump and group think and worshipping at the altar of Murdoch media.

Note that I think that most colleges had gone too far to the left and DEI was overdone and some views were silenced. But the over-reaction to that has been truly awful. And one can spot a MAGA person a mile away by their constant regurgitation of MAGA talking points and that their sole purpose seems to be to be nasty towards the other side and use derogatory phrases like "the radicalized left." Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Davidson, Richmond, Denison may offer an LAC experience that’s friendlier for more conservative students

Of these, only Davidson is an academic peer of Haverford.

W&L is superior; Hillsdale is a peer.

W&L superior to Davidson? Nope!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MAGA will not feel comfortable at any decent university. The point of college is to learn critical thinking skills and analysis. MAGA is all about obedience towards Trump and group think and worshipping at the altar of Murdoch media.

Note that I think that most colleges had gone too far to the left and DEI was overdone and some views were silenced. But the over-reaction to that has been truly awful. And one can spot a MAGA person a mile away by their constant regurgitation of MAGA talking points and that their sole purpose seems to be to be nasty towards the other side and use derogatory phrases like "the radicalized left." Grow up.

"The radicalized left" as opposed to "Nazis?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD and I toured Haverford and Swarthmore recently back to back. She is somewhat conservative but not overly so. She loved Swarthmore but found Haverford too "woke." I try to caution her by saying that we should not base our judgement based just on a 90 min visit. Some things that she mentioned: Assistant Director of Admissions who gave us an info talk was dressed somewhat unconventionally (bandana in her hair and tanktop showing multiple tattoos on her arm), same person encouraged tour students to introduce themselves with pronouns "if they are comfortable," about a third of the tour participants looked trans or gender neutral, student guide emphasized that 60-70 percent of dorm rooms are singles with no roommates, and also emphasized the "student compact" assemblies which sounded like a groupthink exercise. The campus was gorgeous but based on the visit, she is not so excited to apply to Haverford anymore. She found the Swarthmore tour much more "normal" and very much liked what she saw/heard there.

Your DD sounds really weird and judgemental. Swarthmore is just as “woke” as haverford. Just cause a student athlete isn’t her guide for the day, doesn’t mean that everyone is a crazy liberal or whatever. Swarthmore is pretty explicitly damn weird

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD and I toured Haverford and Swarthmore recently back to back. She is somewhat conservative but not overly so. She loved Swarthmore but found Haverford too "woke." I try to caution her by saying that we should not base our judgement based just on a 90 min visit. Some things that she mentioned: Assistant Director of Admissions who gave us an info talk was dressed somewhat unconventionally (bandana in her hair and tanktop showing multiple tattoos on her arm), same person encouraged tour students to introduce themselves with pronouns "if they are comfortable," about a third of the tour participants looked trans or gender neutral, student guide emphasized that 60-70 percent of dorm rooms are singles with no roommates, and also emphasized the "student compact" assemblies which sounded like a groupthink exercise. The campus was gorgeous but based on the visit, she is not so excited to apply to Haverford anymore. She found the Swarthmore tour much more "normal" and very much liked what she saw/heard there.

Your DD sounds really weird and judgemental. Swarthmore is just as “woke” as haverford. Just cause a student athlete isn’t her guide for the day, doesn’t mean that everyone is a crazy liberal or whatever. Swarthmore is pretty explicitly damn weird

To your point, these posts bashing schools often end up making the schools more appealing to me, because I know people like that will not go there.