Who actually develops players?

[Anonymous]

No one will develop your player better than a parent playing daily in the back yard. Seen it with multiple kids. The ones who want to play in the back with a parents are the better players.

After that, it is a trusted private trainer in between club practices (including winter and summer sessions)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one will develop your player better than a parent playing daily in the back yard. Seen it with multiple kids. The ones who want to play in the back with a parents are the better players.

After that, it is a trusted private trainer in between club practices (including winter and summer sessions)

The parent backyard part is about activity quantity.
What they are doing in the backyard determines quality

Any quality specific training tailored to the player is good outside team training

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one will develop your player better than a parent playing daily in the back yard. Seen it with multiple kids. The ones who want to play in the back with a parents are the better players.

After that, it is a trusted private trainer in between club practices (including winter and summer sessions)

The parent backyard part is about activity quantity.
What they are doing in the backyard determines quality

Any quality specific training tailored to the player is good outside team training

Correct. I was referring to the younger ages and assuming the parent had some soccer skill to challenge

[Anonymous]

No player will improve simply through team practices!
Sorry if I’m repeating things people already wrote. I didn’t want to read all of the responses. If your kid is on a top team, he has a responsibility to get extra training in to be able to contribute to the team effort. Can’t speak for all teams but my kid’s team has some players who obviously get training only from team practices and are absolutely a liability to the team. And parents of those same kids are the ones who get angry when their kids don’t get the same playing time.
Okay rant over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No player will improve simply through team practices!
Sorry if I’m repeating things people already wrote. I didn’t want to read all of the responses. If your kid is on a top team, he has a responsibility to get extra training in to be able to contribute to the team effort. Can’t speak for all teams but my kid’s team has some players who obviously get training only from team practices and are absolutely a liability to the team. And parents of those same kids are the ones who get angry when their kids don’t get the same playing time.
Okay rant over.

Agreed. And honestly even the best player on your team is still way behind international standards. Have you ever seen those video clips that show beginner, amateur, and professional level of some soccer skill. Guess where our kids are? I saw a clip a couple months ago of a Premiere league player teaching his son (looked to be about 7) how to take a PK, read the goalie, open your hips, place your foot far enough from the ball so you can come across your body if you decide to etc. the level of detail and technique was on another level. Our kids dont get that level of training, even when you pay for extra for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No player will improve simply through team practices!
Sorry if I’m repeating things people already wrote. I didn’t want to read all of the responses. If your kid is on a top team, he has a responsibility to get extra training in to be able to contribute to the team effort. Can’t speak for all teams but my kid’s team has some players who obviously get training only from team practices and are absolutely a liability to the team. And parents of those same kids are the ones who get angry when their kids don’t get the same playing time.
Okay rant over.

Agreed. And honestly even the best player on your team is still way behind international standards. Have you ever seen those video clips that show beginner, amateur, and professional level of some soccer skill. Guess where our kids are? I saw a clip a couple months ago of a Premiere league player teaching his son (looked to be about 7) how to take a PK, read the goalie, open your hips, place your foot far enough from the ball so you can come across your body if you decide to etc. the level of detail and technique was on another level. Our kids dont get that level of training, even when you pay for extra for it.

Stop following IG.

This is a big country. Our top kids at U11 can compete with anyone in the world. The separation happens because we focus on wins versus development. This is mainly first touch, and small space movement.

You are defeating your kid by age 7 before they get started.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No player will improve simply through team practices!
Sorry if I’m repeating things people already wrote. I didn’t want to read all of the responses. If your kid is on a top team, he has a responsibility to get extra training in to be able to contribute to the team effort. Can’t speak for all teams but my kid’s team has some players who obviously get training only from team practices and are absolutely a liability to the team. And parents of those same kids are the ones who get angry when their kids don’t get the same playing time.
Okay rant over.

Agreed. And honestly even the best player on your team is still way behind international standards. Have you ever seen those video clips that show beginner, amateur, and professional level of some soccer skill. Guess where our kids are? I saw a clip a couple months ago of a Premiere league player teaching his son (looked to be about 7) how to take a PK, read the goalie, open your hips, place your foot far enough from the ball so you can come across your body if you decide to etc. the level of detail and technique was on another level. Our kids dont get that level of training, even when you pay for extra for it.

Stop following IG.

This is a big country. Our top kids at U11 can compete with anyone in the world. The separation happens because we focus on wins versus development. This is mainly first touch, and small space movement.

You are defeating your kid by age 7 before they get started.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No player will improve simply through team practices!
Sorry if I’m repeating things people already wrote. I didn’t want to read all of the responses. If your kid is on a top team, he has a responsibility to get extra training in to be able to contribute to the team effort. Can’t speak for all teams but my kid’s team has some players who obviously get training only from team practices and are absolutely a liability to the team. And parents of those same kids are the ones who get angry when their kids don’t get the same playing time.
Okay rant over.

Agreed. And honestly even the best player on your team is still way behind international standards. Have you ever seen those video clips that show beginner, amateur, and professional level of some soccer skill. Guess where our kids are? I saw a clip a couple months ago of a Premiere league player teaching his son (looked to be about 7) how to take a PK, read the goalie, open your hips, place your foot far enough from the ball so you can come across your body if you decide to etc. the level of detail and technique was on another level. Our kids dont get that level of training, even when you pay for extra for it.

Stop following IG.

This is a big country. Our top kids at U11 can compete with anyone in the world. The separation happens because we focus on wins versus development. This is mainly first touch, and small space movement.

You are defeating your kid by age 7 before they get started.

Wait so you say there is separation and then say we can play with anyone in the world....which is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No player will improve simply through team practices!
Sorry if I’m repeating things people already wrote. I didn’t want to read all of the responses. If your kid is on a top team, he has a responsibility to get extra training in to be able to contribute to the team effort. Can’t speak for all teams but my kid’s team has some players who obviously get training only from team practices and are absolutely a liability to the team. And parents of those same kids are the ones who get angry when their kids don’t get the same playing time.
Okay rant over.

Agreed. And honestly even the best player on your team is still way behind international standards. Have you ever seen those video clips that show beginner, amateur, and professional level of some soccer skill. Guess where our kids are? I saw a clip a couple months ago of a Premiere league player teaching his son (looked to be about 7) how to take a PK, read the goalie, open your hips, place your foot far enough from the ball so you can come across your body if you decide to etc. the level of detail and technique was on another level. Our kids dont get that level of training, even when you pay for extra for it.

Stop following IG.

This is a big country. Our top kids at U11 can compete with anyone in the world. The separation happens because we focus on wins versus development. This is mainly first touch, and small space movement.

You are defeating your kid by age 7 before they get started.

Wait so you say there is separation and then say we can play with anyone in the world....which is it?

Our kids are competitive as late as U11 and then the gap starts to widen. We can sometimes remain competitive by U13 but start lagging by U15 when puberty neutralizes athletic advantages and soccer IQ is more involved.

Don’t take my word for it though, go and see for yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No player will improve simply through team practices!
Sorry if I’m repeating things people already wrote. I didn’t want to read all of the responses. If your kid is on a top team, he has a responsibility to get extra training in to be able to contribute to the team effort. Can’t speak for all teams but my kid’s team has some players who obviously get training only from team practices and are absolutely a liability to the team. And parents of those same kids are the ones who get angry when their kids don’t get the same playing time.
Okay rant over.

Agreed. And honestly even the best player on your team is still way behind international standards. Have you ever seen those video clips that show beginner, amateur, and professional level of some soccer skill. Guess where our kids are? I saw a clip a couple months ago of a Premiere league player teaching his son (looked to be about 7) how to take a PK, read the goalie, open your hips, place your foot far enough from the ball so you can come across your body if you decide to etc. the level of detail and technique was on another level. Our kids dont get that level of training, even when you pay for extra for it.

Stop following IG.

This is a big country. Our top kids at U11 can compete with anyone in the world. The separation happens because we focus on wins versus development. This is mainly first touch, and small space movement.

You are defeating your kid by age 7 before they get started.

Wait so you say there is separation and then say we can play with anyone in the world....which is it?

Our kids are competitive as late as U11 and then the gap starts to widen. We can sometimes remain competitive by U13 but start lagging by U15 when puberty neutralizes athletic advantages and soccer IQ is more involved.

Don’t take my word for it though, go and see for yourself.

Exactly and dont fool yourself its not just soccer IQ the technical skills are lacking as well.

[Anonymous]

I can't give you specific advice, but generally, go where your kid is wanted. Pick the coach who goes after your kid, not the one who gives them a late invite. I've found over the years that playing time and thus development is very correlated to how the coach viewed your kid during tryout.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't give you specific advice, but generally, go where your kid is wanted. Pick the coach who goes after your kid, not the one who gives them a late invite. I've found over the years that playing time and thus development is very correlated to how the coach viewed your kid during tryout.

100% agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No player will improve simply through team practices!
Sorry if I’m repeating things people already wrote. I didn’t want to read all of the responses. If your kid is on a top team, he has a responsibility to get extra training in to be able to contribute to the team effort. Can’t speak for all teams but my kid’s team has some players who obviously get training only from team practices and are absolutely a liability to the team. And parents of those same kids are the ones who get angry when their kids don’t get the same playing time.
Okay rant over.

Bingo. I hear numerous fellow parents that complain due to lack of playing time while saying that their kids come to all team practices. I usually reply that doing that is the bare minimum. The bulk of development happens outside of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No player will improve simply through team practices!
Sorry if I’m repeating things people already wrote. I didn’t want to read all of the responses. If your kid is on a top team, he has a responsibility to get extra training in to be able to contribute to the team effort. Can’t speak for all teams but my kid’s team has some players who obviously get training only from team practices and are absolutely a liability to the team. And parents of those same kids are the ones who get angry when their kids don’t get the same playing time.
Okay rant over.

Agreed. And honestly even the best player on your team is still way behind international standards. Have you ever seen those video clips that show beginner, amateur, and professional level of some soccer skill. Guess where our kids are? I saw a clip a couple months ago of a Premiere league player teaching his son (looked to be about 7) how to take a PK, read the goalie, open your hips, place your foot far enough from the ball so you can come across your body if you decide to etc. the level of detail and technique was on another level. Our kids dont get that level of training, even when you pay for extra for it.

Don't know what you're talking about

Many kids in our area can and do go to Europe at U-littles and do well

In real life. Not theoretically

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No player will improve simply through team practices!
Sorry if I’m repeating things people already wrote. I didn’t want to read all of the responses. If your kid is on a top team, he has a responsibility to get extra training in to be able to contribute to the team effort. Can’t speak for all teams but my kid’s team has some players who obviously get training only from team practices and are absolutely a liability to the team. And parents of those same kids are the ones who get angry when their kids don’t get the same playing time.
Okay rant over.

Agreed. And honestly even the best player on your team is still way behind international standards. Have you ever seen those video clips that show beginner, amateur, and professional level of some soccer skill. Guess where our kids are? I saw a clip a couple months ago of a Premiere league player teaching his son (looked to be about 7) how to take a PK, read the goalie, open your hips, place your foot far enough from the ball so you can come across your body if you decide to etc. the level of detail and technique was on another level. Our kids dont get that level of training, even when you pay for extra for it.

Don't know what you're talking about

Many kids in our area can and do go to Europe at U-littles and do well

In real life. Not theoretically

Because they got the hell out of Dodge. You're making the argument of the actual point. It's nurture vs nature. And the American version of nurture is to collect trophies with the raw athleticism of early bloomers so they can pretend to be producing results. In reality, it's a lazy ignorant way to run development into the ground.