Who actually develops players?

Anonymous
I am hearing so much talk about this and that club taking credit and not actually developing the player. I am interested to see what coaches are actually developing players here in the DMV.

Two off hand are Phil Gyau and Sal Caccavale.

No need to berate if you disagree. Despite what others think, who has impacted your player?
Anonymous
Dave Atkinson from Villareal Virginia is a great coach and my DS got significantly better playing for him. His management of the club isn't as good, but his coaching is top notch.
Anonymous
Philip Gyau is excellent.
Anonymous
What’s the consensus on Coach Simone? He seems great to us. Top tier.
Anonymous
Ngl RP at NVA is a rough around the edges but good
Coach.

Leaves players w a high iq in regards to possession futbol
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ngl RP at NVA is a rough around the edges but good
Coach.

Leaves players w a high iq in regards to possession futbol


lmao did you know he asked NE for $90K to leave Loudoun for Revolution?
Anonymous
Coach Simone at BSC for sure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What’s the consensus on Coach Simone? He seems great to us. Top tier.


He is my son’s favorite.
Anonymous
The very best girls coach in the DMV is Brodie. NB at LS is also decent.
Anonymous
There are some really good coaches leading some of the Arlington lower tiered teams. Our DD got significantly better and ended up skipping a team (went from 5th to 3rd team).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am hearing so much talk about this and that club taking credit and not actually developing the player. I am interested to see what coaches are actually developing players here in the DMV.

Two off hand are Phil Gyau and Sal Caccavale.

No need to berate if you disagree. Despite what others think, who has impacted your player?


Been with Sal for two years. Would not go anywhere else.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ngl RP at NVA is a rough around the edges but good
Coach.

Leaves players w a high iq in regards to possession futbol


lmao did you know he asked NE for $90K to leave Loudoun for Revolution?
that was it? Thats a steal. He should go to vda imo
Anonymous
It's a good question and I personally think this comes down to your goals and the position your kid plays.

Coaches, for the most part, are best at coaching where they played in their prime because that is where they have the most personal experience and intimate knowledge. That doesn't mean they can't coach other positions but this is where they shine and also these are the types of players they are naturally drawn to, players that played like them and where they can see themselves in them. It's human nature. And of course a coach can coach anyone but we are talking.about the strongest developers.

So, if you take PG for instance, who has been mentioned on this thread, if your player is a winger who relies solely on speed and 1v1 attacking ability to influence games and that will be your players value to a team going forward, then he could be good as he was a left footed winger/forward with pace that liked to try and run past people. And his trainings focus a lot on 1v1, pace building/stamina (running hills, around the track etc etc) and attacking and his methodology is very old school. And I would argue his trainings are not built for the current physical rigors of the modern game. You can't train like they did 40 years ago today because the game has changed, the physical demands on a players body are higher and if you have that type of frequency in training sprinting and power, your body WILL break down. FAST. If you're asking him to teach your CAM, CDM, CM Wing back, that may be more of a stretch because the knowledge base is just not there. Yes, he could teach some things about those positions but it wouldn't be remarkable. He certainly has experience in the game that a lot of coaches don't and that is valuable and he does understand the landscape in the US which is also valuable. But again, if you have a defensive player or a player that plays centrally, I would look elsewhere.

SC, who is also mentioned in this thread, is certainly polarizing. Some love him and some.hate him. What is pretty clear is that he does work well with central midfielders. Again, that is where he played. His approach to youth players in terms of how he treats them is up to parents to decide but he does have some decent results with midfielders and regardless of whether you like his approach, he does seem to give kids a solid technical foundation to build on especially at central positions on the pitch.

Devin Payton who is at Juventus is an excellent developer of talent. Probably one of the only true students of the game that I have seen in our area. And because of this, he is very versatile in terms of the positions he can coach. He was a top attacking player but can coach it all and is also very good with teams and most importantly, cares about the kids and their well being. Very underrated coach, who has a knowledge base and experience that many coaches in our area do not. Including playing on the US futsal national team and truly understanding how to transition those futsal skills to the field (which is not easy). A great all around coach and you will see quickly that he has coaches or currently coaches some of our areas top talents. He just doesn't trumpet those accomplishments.

Generally speaking you have to find a coach who knows what they are talking about and has unique experience (obvious) 1. But 2 can get through to your kid in a way that his productive and healthy. It can be challenging but if you use some of the criteria here as a guide it can narrow down your choices.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's a good question and I personally think this comes down to your goals and the position your kid plays.

Coaches, for the most part, are best at coaching where they played in their prime because that is where they have the most personal experience and intimate knowledge. That doesn't mean they can't coach other positions but this is where they shine and also these are the types of players they are naturally drawn to, players that played like them and where they can see themselves in them. It's human nature. And of course a coach can coach anyone but we are talking.about the strongest developers.

So, if you take PG for instance, who has been mentioned on this thread, if your player is a winger who relies solely on speed and 1v1 attacking ability to influence games and that will be your players value to a team going forward, then he could be good as he was a left footed winger/forward with pace that liked to try and run past people. And his trainings focus a lot on 1v1, pace building/stamina (running hills, around the track etc etc) and attacking and his methodology is very old school. And I would argue his trainings are not built for the current physical rigors of the modern game. You can't train like they did 40 years ago today because the game has changed, the physical demands on a players body are higher and if you have that type of frequency in training sprinting and power, your body WILL break down. FAST. If you're asking him to teach your CAM, CDM, CM Wing back, that may be more of a stretch because the knowledge base is just not there. Yes, he could teach some things about those positions but it wouldn't be remarkable. He certainly has experience in the game that a lot of coaches don't and that is valuable and he does understand the landscape in the US which is also valuable. But again, if you have a defensive player or a player that plays centrally, I would look elsewhere.

SC, who is also mentioned in this thread, is certainly polarizing. Some love him and some.hate him. What is pretty clear is that he does work well with central midfielders. Again, that is where he played. His approach to youth players in terms of how he treats them is up to parents to decide but he does have some decent results with midfielders and regardless of whether you like his approach, he does seem to give kids a solid technical foundation to build on especially at central positions on the pitch.

Devin Payton who is at Juventus is an excellent developer of talent. Probably one of the only true students of the game that I have seen in our area. And because of this, he is very versatile in terms of the positions he can coach. He was a top attacking player but can coach it all and is also very good with teams and most importantly, cares about the kids and their well being. Very underrated coach, who has a knowledge base and experience that many coaches in our area do not. Including playing on the US futsal national team and truly understanding how to transition those futsal skills to the field (which is not easy). A great all around coach and you will see quickly that he has coaches or currently coaches some of our areas top talents. He just doesn't trumpet those accomplishments.

Generally speaking you have to find a coach who knows what they are talking about and has unique experience (obvious) 1. But 2 can get through to your kid in a way that his productive and healthy. It can be challenging but if you use some of the criteria here as a guide it can narrow down your choices.


Well done.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am hearing so much talk about this and that club taking credit and not actually developing the player. I am interested to see what coaches are actually developing players here in the DMV.

Two off hand are Phil Gyau and Sal Caccavale.

No need to berate if you disagree. Despite what others think, who has impacted your player?


Been with Sal for two years. Would not go anywhere else.


NGL when you leave him finally you will see the horrible toll the screaming, swearing and negativity had on your child. It’s hard to see it when you are in it but one day you will. It’s not worth it!
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