NYT expose on The Tell by Amy Griffin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She sent an email to friends reminding them to buy the book with an arty nude photo of herself attached. Particularly given the topic of the book it was gross.

How do you know this?

[Anonymous]

I read the book earlier this year and I think I even posted on here that I needed to talk about it with someone because I had so many questions (doubt) about the story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She sent an email to friends reminding them to buy the book with an arty nude photo of herself attached. Particularly given the topic of the book it was gross.

How do you know this?

DH knows the husband through work. They were at a UVA fundraiser recently.

[Anonymous]

I have a problem with the problem with it - we can't prove it's true so she must be a fraud and/or someone who is ruining someone else's life unnecessarily? She was the only one who has come forward so it's unlikely to be true?

[Anonymous]

I am the PP - and also a victim (for real) of SA. The trauma makes things fuzzy- that is just a fact, and it's often used against rape victims in court whose stories change or get details wrong. Something about all the shaming of this woman really rubs me the wrong way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a problem with the problem with it - we can't prove it's true so she must be a fraud and/or someone who is ruining someone else's life unnecessarily? She was the only one who has come forward so it's unlikely to be true?

She only “remembered” her story after taking psychedelic drugs. That seems like a big problem.

I’ve experienced memory loss after trauma. You don’t forget that “the thing” even happened- you forget the details around it. It’s not like a delete button.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the PP - and also a victim (for real) of SA. The trauma makes things fuzzy- that is just a fact, and it's often used against rape victims in court whose stories change or get details wrong. Something about all the shaming of this woman really rubs me the wrong way.

Did you read the whole article?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a problem with the problem with it - we can't prove it's true so she must be a fraud and/or someone who is ruining someone else's life unnecessarily? She was the only one who has come forward so it's unlikely to be true?

1) Recovered memories are extremely unreliable.
2) especially if drug induced
3) this abuse is supposed to have occurred middle through high school. It’s not unusual that a child that age would tell no one for years but its not usual that the child would have no memory. it’s not the very young child scenario that’s typical of the few recovered memories that have been found to be true.
4) the similarity with her classmates story (which she’s apparently never forgotten and has told people about over the years) is striking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the PP - and also a victim (for real) of SA. The trauma makes things fuzzy- that is just a fact, and it's often used against rape victims in court whose stories change or get details wrong. Something about all the shaming of this woman really rubs me the wrong way.

It’s not that it was fuzzy. In fact it appeared suddenly and with incredible level of detail while on mdma. That’s (obviously!) not the same thing.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for posting so I know to avoid this book.

It’s giving off Little Rascals and witch hunt vibes.

Sounds similar to use of LSD.

“Enhanced suggestibility: LSD increases a person's suggestibility, which heightens the risk of creating new, false memories, especially within a therapeutic context.”

“Distorted narratives: Psychedelics can disrupt episodic memory (the memory of specific events) while enhancing familiarity-based memory. This can lead to a powerful feeling of "knowing" or insight without the accurate context to back it up. “

https://bigthink.com/neuropsych/hidden-trauma-do-psychedelics-reveal-memories-or-create-fake-ones/#:~:text=%E2%80%9COne%20of%20the%20striking%20things,by%20some%20of%20my%20colleagues.%E2%80%9D

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She sent an email to friends reminding them to buy the book with an arty nude photo of herself attached. Particularly given the topic of the book it was gross.

How do you know this?

DH knows the husband through work. They were at a UVA fundraiser recently.

Was it the cover art of the book?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a problem with the problem with it - we can't prove it's true so she must be a fraud and/or someone who is ruining someone else's life unnecessarily? She was the only one who has come forward so it's unlikely to be true?

My mom knows she has something buried in her past and doesn’t want to go there. The mind is more powerful than we believe.

To your point, I read the Christine Blasey Ford book and same thing…they weren’t willing to let her testify if she was the only one who’d been abused by BK. FFS. Why? It was maddening and really made me understand why women don’t come forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the PP - and also a victim (for real) of SA. The trauma makes things fuzzy- that is just a fact, and it's often used against rape victims in court whose stories change or get details wrong. Something about all the shaming of this woman really rubs me the wrong way.

I think the issue that people have is that this story was published in the first place. It is incriminating this teacher without any other verification. The Times attempted to do verification of the story and could not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the PP - and also a victim (for real) of SA. The trauma makes things fuzzy- that is just a fact, and it's often used against rape victims in court whose stories change or get details wrong. Something about all the shaming of this woman really rubs me the wrong way.

I think the issue that people have is that this story was published in the first place. It is incriminating this teacher without any other verification. The Times attempted to do verification of the story and could not.

^ and the fact that it was a memory uncovered supposedly by MDMA which is controversial to say the least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a problem with the problem with it - we can't prove it's true so she must be a fraud and/or someone who is ruining someone else's life unnecessarily? She was the only one who has come forward so it's unlikely to be true?

My mom knows she has something buried in her past and doesn’t want to go there. The mind is more powerful than we believe.

To your point, I read the Christine Blasey Ford book and same thing…they weren’t willing to let her testify if she was the only one who’d been abused by BK. FFS. Why? It was maddening and really made me understand why women don’t come forward.

You are doing Christine Blasey Ford a disservice by this comparison. She remembered the whole time, told many people over years, and no mdma was involved.